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Your recent editing history at List of ongoing armed conflicts shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- I am sorry, but have you seen his edits? Gang violence in Brazil is not an armed conflict and numerous editors have agreed on that, also, how is an unrest event part of the Corsican conflict which have been inactive for all these years? and how can the page Terrorism in Bangladesh be renamed as Internal conflict in Bangladesh in the Ongoing armed conflicts but not in the original page? I think this is illogical, there have been incidents where sockpuppet accounts returned after being banned and he has the same behaviour with them, these sock puppet accounts even posted about Taxi Wars in South Africa, surely this can't be considered an armed conflict. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:17, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: finally you unswear. Conflict between paramilitary groups, criminal organization and the government is not gang violence but a real armed conflict. The corsican conflict is an ongoing conflict, nobody declared cessation of armed struggle, for example in 2019 the FLNC, before and after the coming of Emmanuel Macron, do bomb attacks, so its an ongoing conflict. Terrorism in Bangladesh is a conflict as the insurgency in Tunisia and in Egypt. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:27, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- The same type of conflict can be seen in other countries next to Mexico, such as Nicaragua or Haiti, but these countries are not listed, since these are gang wars, there is no real armed conflict since there is no real active front. unrest is not an armed conflict and you literally posted the 2022 unrest, same type of unrest took place in Kazakhstan and South Africa but we simply rejected them in the Ongoing armed conflicts page. You literally changed the name of the Terrorism in Bangladesh page to Internal conflict in Bangladesh, this is misleading and fake news. If Internal conflict in Bangladesh was real there would have been a page dedicated to it here in Wikipedia. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:30, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: in Nicaragua and Haiti there are only gang wars, sometimes the civilians defend their territories, but there isn't vigilantes. In Brazil those groups exists and do a conflict with the narcos and the government. For UCDP, in Bangladesh the ISIL from 2015 began an insurgency in the country and from 2004, for UCDP, a communist insurgency. So there is an ongoing internal conflict. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- In Nicaragua and Haiti there is literally the same concept as in Brazil. Groups in Brazil do not have the same status as in Mexico and that is why it is not considered an armed conflict. Numerous editors have clarified this in the past. Terrorism in Bangladesh page cannot be changed to Internal conflict in Bangladesh just because one person decided it. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:43, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: in Nicaragua and Haiti there are only gang wars, sometimes the civilians defend their territories, but there isn't vigilantes. In Brazil those groups exists and do a conflict with the narcos and the government. For UCDP, in Bangladesh the ISIL from 2015 began an insurgency in the country and from 2004, for UCDP, a communist insurgency. So there is an ongoing internal conflict. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- The same type of conflict can be seen in other countries next to Mexico, such as Nicaragua or Haiti, but these countries are not listed, since these are gang wars, there is no real armed conflict since there is no real active front. unrest is not an armed conflict and you literally posted the 2022 unrest, same type of unrest took place in Kazakhstan and South Africa but we simply rejected them in the Ongoing armed conflicts page. You literally changed the name of the Terrorism in Bangladesh page to Internal conflict in Bangladesh, this is misleading and fake news. If Internal conflict in Bangladesh was real there would have been a page dedicated to it here in Wikipedia. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:30, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: before the original page was named Internal conflict in Bangladesh. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:30, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Then it was changed for a reason. Terrorist incidents can be observed in pretty much every single country. We did not list Terrorism in France for example, since it isn't an armed conflict. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:32, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: another thing. Secondary account is illegal, you can be blocked. You have a mobile phone account. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you're talking about, you're blackmailing me for no reason, most likely you're the one with the sock puppet accounts that gets banned every now and then by other editors in the Ongoing armed conflicts page and there are facts to back this up, remember Taxi Wars in South Africa? Whitesin21 (talk) 17:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: Taxi wars in SA?
- Ehm, I don't know what you're talking about, seriously. If you can explane me that. Anyway, you have a mobile phone account in which you deleat a lot of edits. Im sure about that 'cause this account do the same edits that you do, this is illegal. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:51, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've been using the same account for all these years, you're very rude to spread false accusations and it's also disrespectful. This is why I didn't want to speak to you in the first place Whitesin21 (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: only now I said this, so why you don't speak with me before to eviting an useless edit war?
- Anyway, I don't know, and honestly, I don't care how many years you've been on the wiki, but recently a mobile account is doing the exact same changes as you are writing the exact same things as you, I don't think it's coincidences. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with me and you are insisting on spreading lies, you're pathetic. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I've been using the same account for all these years, you're very rude to spread false accusations and it's also disrespectful. This is why I didn't want to speak to you in the first place Whitesin21 (talk) 17:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have no idea what you're talking about, you're blackmailing me for no reason, most likely you're the one with the sock puppet accounts that gets banned every now and then by other editors in the Ongoing armed conflicts page and there are facts to back this up, remember Taxi Wars in South Africa? Whitesin21 (talk) 17:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: we didn't list Terrorism in France 'cause there isn't an insurgency of any groups. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:45, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Like I said, you are posting Terrorism in Bangladesh as Internal conflict in Bangladesh, this is misleading and false. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: No, there is difference between France and Bangladesh. In France there are terrorist attacks for their intervation in the war on terror, in Bangladesh there are terrorist attacks to do declar the IS Emir in the Bengal. Those information are from UCDP, an official site in which there are every conflicts with their history and releated deaths. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:55, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is still just terrorist activities though, and that is why the editors didn't change the name of the page to Internal conflict. You're telling me, you're the only one that gets it right? Stop changing the page's name. Terrorism isn't an armed conflict. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: but with Egypt they changed the name. The name isn't insurgency in Egypt but Timeline of Terrorism in Egypt. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:59, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: terrorism is a strategic act of war. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: you have another mobile account in which you deleat Kleuske edit, doing the same edit and writing the same thing that you write me every time you deleat my edits. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:04, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Stop spreading lies and false accusations about me, you're ill-mannered and impolite, I don't even know you and I wouldn't resort to such tactics. I told you why your edits are wrong and now you are just attacking me for no reason whatsoever. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: those aren't false accusations 'cause you use your mobile phone to do edits. Its a coincidence that this mobile phone account do your same edits and write your same things? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:14, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: Im not attacking you, I saying that you have another mobile account, and this is true. Im going to talk with this mobile account, I want to see what you're going to say. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: my edits are correct reading the parameters, so stop deleat them. Also Kleuske said that are correct. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:19, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: you're now attacking me saying im a lier and pathethic, so stop you harassing me and stop deleat my edits 'cause I don't want to do another edit war for your foult. I don't care about your contributions, Im saying now that you have another mobile phone account 'cause this account do your same edits. The conflicts that I inserect are armed conflicts. Corsican conflict is ongoing, Militias-Comando Vermelho conflict is not a gang violence but a conflict between paramilitary groups, one of the most powerful crime organizations in Brazil and the government (in this conflict an helicopter was shot down in the clashes) and in Bangladesh there is and ongoing jihadist and communist insurgency. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:31, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Unrest is not an armed conflict, like the ones in Kazakhstan and South Africa, Gang violence in Brazil isn't an armed conflict, since there is no real insurgency like in Mexico and Terrorism in Bangladesh isn't an armed conflict just because one person decided to change it's name into a fake one in a different page. You're spreading false information and you're also attacking another editor. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: you don't want to understand that the killing of Colonna is part of the conflict (that is inserect in the page Corsican conflict with the unrest), that I don't inserect gang violence but a conflict between vigilantes, drug traffickers and the government, and that there is a jihadist and communist insurgency (UCDP said this, not me). You attacked me saying that I do fake edits, that Im disrespectful, unmannerly, fake and pathetic. Im gonna talk about that and about your secondary mobile account to other editors. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Unrest events aren't armed conflicts, gang violence in Brazil was never part of the Ongoing armed conflicts page and falsely changing the name of a page Terrorism in Bangladesh to Internal conflict in Bangladesh is misleading to readers. You came to my talk page and attacked me, claiming that I have a second account and you insisted on this multiple times, this shows lack of respect and manners, I didn't attack, I defended myself while facing false accusations and harassment by you, while also trying to stick to the matter, which is the edit war and now you throw threats to me. Other editors changed your edits in the past, this means I control their accounts as well? This is outrageous. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: if you want to give me the notification about your comment use the ping. Anyway, the other editors don't do the same edits like your mobile phone account. You pass one year only in the list page like it was your, but is not. I read also a page on wiki about militias and Nicaragua and Haiti haven't a paragraph, so in those countries there aren't militias, maybe some civilians defend himself from criminals but those countries haven't militias, so you do a fake information. You insult me, again...
- Today Im going to talk with someone about you and your secondary account. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 09:44, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Today you should learn the difference between an insurgency and gang violence and you should also learn to show respect to other editors and not attack them without any reason whatsoever, you're a liar and a disrespectful person. Whitesin21 (talk) 11:29, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: Today you should learn the difference between a gang and a militia and also to not use a secondary account. I send the message and someone is going to unswear. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 15:08, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: you really create another account? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 15:24, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- There is no insurgency in Brazil and militias are simply gangs, drug wars aren't armed conflicts, I won't even answer to your malicious attacks. Whitesin21 (talk) 15:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Today you should learn the difference between an insurgency and gang violence and you should also learn to show respect to other editors and not attack them without any reason whatsoever, you're a liar and a disrespectful person. Whitesin21 (talk) 11:29, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Unrest events aren't armed conflicts, gang violence in Brazil was never part of the Ongoing armed conflicts page and falsely changing the name of a page Terrorism in Bangladesh to Internal conflict in Bangladesh is misleading to readers. You came to my talk page and attacked me, claiming that I have a second account and you insisted on this multiple times, this shows lack of respect and manners, I didn't attack, I defended myself while facing false accusations and harassment by you, while also trying to stick to the matter, which is the edit war and now you throw threats to me. Other editors changed your edits in the past, this means I control their accounts as well? This is outrageous. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:03, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: I didn't insult you, unlike you did to me. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- You attacked me and insulted me with false accusations, you repeated this multiple times and also threatened me with this accusation as something that is true. Whitesin21 (talk) 21:02, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: you don't want to understand that the killing of Colonna is part of the conflict (that is inserect in the page Corsican conflict with the unrest), that I don't inserect gang violence but a conflict between vigilantes, drug traffickers and the government, and that there is a jihadist and communist insurgency (UCDP said this, not me). You attacked me saying that I do fake edits, that Im disrespectful, unmannerly, fake and pathetic. Im gonna talk about that and about your secondary mobile account to other editors. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:53, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: I inserect the unrest in Corsica like a consequence of Colonna's killing and it is releated to the ongoing conflict. Paramilitary groups are not a crime gang, stop saying that, there are difference between vigilantes and gang members. I search informations on UCDP and I can read that in Bangladesh there is an ongoing conflict. You attacked me saying that Im a lier and pathetic, you also have another account. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Colonna's killing in jail isn't part of an armed conflict, since there is no armed conflict in the 2022 unrest that you posted. The page you posted for Bangladesh is Terrorism and this isn't an armed conflict, you're misleading the readers, gang violence in Brazil has never been posted in Ongoing armed conflicts, I said you're a liar and pathetic because you're attacking me for no reason, falsely accusing me of having a second account while I stated that I do not use such tactics and never did. This conversation was about the edit war and not about your attacks and harassment towards me, you're disrespectful and unmannerly. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: another thing, you use wiki for years, or at least as you say, but you don't know that if you want to give me the notification about your comment your gonna use the ping. But I know that you don't know that, 'cause you don't use it. Please, instead edit the same page for years, its better for your future on wiki to start to read the roules of wiki and how it works. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 19:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- And it's better for you NOT to change the name of a page in a different page just because you feel like it, learn the rules and respect the page's original name, Terrorism in Bangladesh and not Internal conflict in Bangladesh, you're spreading fake news. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:04, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: someone did it to Insurgency in Egypt. Terrorism in Bangladesh is a conflict, in fact in UCDP it is considered a conflict. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Terrorism in Bangladesh isn't an Internal conflict, stop spreading fake news. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: controll if Im saying a fake news, no?
- Controll to UCDP and stop saying you fake news about those conflicts. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 19:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Terrorism in Bangladesh isn't an Internal conflict, stop spreading fake news. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: someone did it to Insurgency in Egypt. Terrorism in Bangladesh is a conflict, in fact in UCDP it is considered a conflict. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- And it's better for you NOT to change the name of a page in a different page just because you feel like it, learn the rules and respect the page's original name, Terrorism in Bangladesh and not Internal conflict in Bangladesh, you're spreading fake news. Whitesin21 (talk) 19:04, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: another thing, you use wiki for years, or at least as you say, but you don't know that if you want to give me the notification about your comment your gonna use the ping. But I know that you don't know that, 'cause you don't use it. Please, instead edit the same page for years, its better for your future on wiki to start to read the roules of wiki and how it works. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 19:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Colonna's killing in jail isn't part of an armed conflict, since there is no armed conflict in the 2022 unrest that you posted. The page you posted for Bangladesh is Terrorism and this isn't an armed conflict, you're misleading the readers, gang violence in Brazil has never been posted in Ongoing armed conflicts, I said you're a liar and pathetic because you're attacking me for no reason, falsely accusing me of having a second account while I stated that I do not use such tactics and never did. This conversation was about the edit war and not about your attacks and harassment towards me, you're disrespectful and unmannerly. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Unrest is not an armed conflict, like the ones in Kazakhstan and South Africa, Gang violence in Brazil isn't an armed conflict, since there is no real insurgency like in Mexico and Terrorism in Bangladesh isn't an armed conflict just because one person decided to change it's name into a fake one in a different page. You're spreading false information and you're also attacking another editor. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Stop spreading lies and false accusations about me, you're ill-mannered and impolite, I don't even know you and I wouldn't resort to such tactics. I told you why your edits are wrong and now you are just attacking me for no reason whatsoever. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:08, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: I can also see in your contributions that you're in wiki for only 1 year and not for years, so you lied. So you're new in wikipedia, in fact only one hour ago you creat your personal page, so, 'cause your new in wiki, you use your smartphone to do other edits. If you are not new to the wiki, why did you start an edit war that could have been avoided by conversing like we are doing now? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:12, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- Your edits are false and you spread misleading lies to the page. You literally post terrorism page as internal conflict, you post unrests which are rejected every single time and gang wars which are also false. I have never used my smartphone, not even once. I have contributed so many times to the page in order to inform and only now I see your account spreading misleading edits with fake pages and non existent armed conflicts. You are pathetic and rude and this is true because I don't even know you. You are just like these sock puppets accounts that were banned a few months ago. Stop spreading false accusations and lies about me, I clearly stated I have no other account and I would never use such tactics over a simple matter such as this, stop harassing me please. Whitesin21 (talk) 18:24, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- It is still just terrorist activities though, and that is why the editors didn't change the name of the page to Internal conflict. You're telling me, you're the only one that gets it right? Stop changing the page's name. Terrorism isn't an armed conflict. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:57, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: No, there is difference between France and Bangladesh. In France there are terrorist attacks for their intervation in the war on terror, in Bangladesh there are terrorist attacks to do declar the IS Emir in the Bengal. Those information are from UCDP, an official site in which there are every conflicts with their history and releated deaths. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:55, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21
- Σαγαπαωωω πανέξυπνε μμ 2A02:1388:95:7911:0:0:44BB:9A25 (talk) 22:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Like I said, you are posting Terrorism in Bangladesh as Internal conflict in Bangladesh, this is misleading and false. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: another thing. Secondary account is illegal, you can be blocked. You have a mobile phone account. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21
- 💔 2A02:1388:95:7911:0:0:44BB:9A25 (talk) 22:33, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Then it was changed for a reason. Terrorist incidents can be observed in pretty much every single country. We did not list Terrorism in France for example, since it isn't an armed conflict. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:32, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: finally you unswear. Conflict between paramilitary groups, criminal organization and the government is not gang violence but a real armed conflict. The corsican conflict is an ongoing conflict, nobody declared cessation of armed struggle, for example in 2019 the FLNC, before and after the coming of Emmanuel Macron, do bomb attacks, so its an ongoing conflict. Terrorism in Bangladesh is a conflict as the insurgency in Tunisia and in Egypt. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:27, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
İm not secondary account, im on that page for months, (not doing any edits unless vandalism)(and i didnt had an account on that time) also i once reverted whitesins edits, and none of us touched your good edits and that ip account is me forgot to log in :\ Peanut funi xd (talk) 10:22, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Peanut funi xd: ehm, hi (?)
- Who are you now?
- You're 31.210.37.65? The mobile account? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 15:12, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Peanut funi xd: if yes, its illegal to have two accounts, you know?
- Wait...
- If you're the mobile account, how do you know about this conversation?
- Why you entered into the talk page of Whitesin21?
- Why you deleat the Kleuske edit?
- Why you write the same things of Whitesin21 and doing the same edits? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 15:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Peanut funi xd: another thing, you're not in wiki for mounths but only from 3 june, I see your contributions. You are another account of Whitesin21? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 15:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
İm the ip adress yep İts illegal but i forgot to log in İ know this by checking talk page İ check talk page to see if issue over İ delet klauske edit thinking it was you İ say same stuff with whitesin becuz 2 ppl can hav same opinion İ made account oň 3 june, i was ip user before Peanut funi xd (talk) 16:22, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Peanut funi xd: if your not Whitesin21 how do you know about this conversation?
- Sure, 2 peoples can have the same opinion, but not write the same things like "gang violence is not a conflict" written by you and Whitesin21 a lot of times or like the edits deleated, you deleat the same edits. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 17:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
İ didnt write gang violence isnt a conflict, i said terrorism ,alsoisnt having the same opinion doing the same things İ checked the talk page to see this conversation Peanut funi xd (talk) 17:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Peanut funi xd: if you're the ip account you write terrorism isnt armed conflict gang violence isnt included corsia conflict is not active and Whitesin21 written there is no active armed group in the Corsican Conflict and Terrorism in Bangladesh is not an Insurgency, these are not active conflicts, in another edit you written vandalism to my edit and Whitesin21 stop vandalising the page please, the article you are sending talks about terrorist attacks by local affiliates, it says nothing about an internal conflict or an active insurgency by an armed group, terrorist attacks are not signs of an insurgency or a conflict said this thing and a lot of similary things, you and Whitesin21 say the same things. And why you ckeck to see this conversation? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 18:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- You have your own talk page, just move this conversation there if you have such a huge problem with me, this is getting out of hand really. Whitesin21 (talk) 21:03, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Same opinions cause ppl to tell the same things İ checked to see if the issue got solved, Peanut funi xd (talk) 18:52, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
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You are doing an excellent job in keeping the page "List of ongoing armed conflicts" updated. Keep up! LucaLindholm LucaLindholm (talk) 22:00, 26 June 2022 (UTC) |
Deleating sourches
[edit]Hi... I don't deleat sourches, 'cause not every of those deaths are not linked into the conflict. I search about clashes between the rebels and the government or some violence against civilians perpetred by both sides but I don't found nothing in english language nor in spanish. The only event linked into the conflict is the explosive attack on a military vehicle that hurt three soldiers, but no casualties. The guerrilla groups are composed by a max of 150-200 militants, so its impossible that in this conflict there are more than 40 deaths in 1 years, this is a low-level insurgency and the max that was reached up was in 2013 with 20 deaths. Dashboard inserect all casualties in all parts of the country (the insurgency is active only in the northeastern part of Paraguay) and inserect also battles between government and local gangs, riots-linked deaths and terrorist attacks, not all of those deaths are linked into the conflict, infact in the article of this wiki, in which there is the timeline of the insurgency, in 2021 there was "only" a clash and an execution perpetred by the EPP (the local insurgency group) and those two events caused in total "only" 4 deaths and not 41. @Whitesin21: can I deleat this mistake and inserect the real sourches now? MorteBiancaFan (talk) 14:09, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
- Im going to revert your edit, so, to don't do another edit war, can you just answear?
- If you don't answear Im going to call someone of the administration and tell that you don't want to talk and you just want to do another edit war. @Whitesin21: MorteBiancaFan (talk) 05:35, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, no, the source does not list non conflict casualties, like homicides or gang violence and this is always mentioned, this conflict is similar to the one in Colombia and Mexico, with violence happening across the country and this is why it is difficult to clearly know exactly which casualties are linked to the conflict, just like the conflict you posted in Brazil. But, these casualties are part of the insurgency and this is the only active conflict in the country, sources could have different results but it is important to include all of them, we could try having both, for example as you said, 4 as the minimum number and 8 as the maximum for 2022, until there is a better source or until there is a source giving information about the total number of casualties since the beginning of the conflict. Whitesin21 (talk) 13:52, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: this insurgency is not similar to the colombian conflict (in which there are more than 1,000 of deaths every year) or the mexican drug war (in which there are more than 10,000 deaths every year) 'cause there are few releated deaths. I read the news in Paraguay and for now nobody was killed in insurgency this year, only 3 soldiers were injured but not killed, so those 8 deaths of this year and the 41 deaths in 2021 are not linked into the insurgency, not all deaths. The violence caused by the insurgency is only in the northeastern part of the country, the rest of the country is safe. But, OK, I can inserect my sourches and I don't deleat your sorches. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 21:10, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- I mentioned these conflicts because most of the deaths in Mexico for example are homicides and these do not count as deaths from the conflict, this source is reliable with local information being taken into account, so these deaths are not homicides and they're basically part of the conflict, again, it's better to wait for a source that gives information about the total number of casualties and not just from each year, this is always the most accurate one, because information regarding current year could change frequently. Whitesin21 (talk) 00:18, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- But anyway, casualties in Paraguay in current and past year are clearly less than 100, so it's in the right spot. Whitesin21 (talk) 00:44, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Whitesin21: this insurgency is not similar to the colombian conflict (in which there are more than 1,000 of deaths every year) or the mexican drug war (in which there are more than 10,000 deaths every year) 'cause there are few releated deaths. I read the news in Paraguay and for now nobody was killed in insurgency this year, only 3 soldiers were injured but not killed, so those 8 deaths of this year and the 41 deaths in 2021 are not linked into the insurgency, not all deaths. The violence caused by the insurgency is only in the northeastern part of the country, the rest of the country is safe. But, OK, I can inserect my sourches and I don't deleat your sorches. MorteBiancaFan (talk) 21:10, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, no, the source does not list non conflict casualties, like homicides or gang violence and this is always mentioned, this conflict is similar to the one in Colombia and Mexico, with violence happening across the country and this is why it is difficult to clearly know exactly which casualties are linked to the conflict, just like the conflict you posted in Brazil. But, these casualties are part of the insurgency and this is the only active conflict in the country, sources could have different results but it is important to include all of them, we could try having both, for example as you said, 4 as the minimum number and 8 as the maximum for 2022, until there is a better source or until there is a source giving information about the total number of casualties since the beginning of the conflict. Whitesin21 (talk) 13:52, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
hey
[edit]Sorry if my removal edit description for the Ethiopia 8,000 figure seemed harsh. XTheBedrockX (talk) 07:17, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- No need to worry about it, it was indeed above the total number of fatalities that ACLED offers on their site. Whitesin21 (talk) 09:26, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Whitesin21, Modify and change this article NOW! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts
[edit]You are completely manipulating the information. It is totally incorrect to associate the "war on drugs" in Mexico as a kind of "armed conflict". IT'S NOT EXACTLY A WAR. In this situation, the term "war" is used by the media to generate terror and sensationalism in their news. These deaths and murders that have occurred in Mexico are due to delinquency and organized crime. I mean, HOMICIDES. And the United States does not have homicides too? The United States is a country where more than 10,000 murders per year also occur. And why the hell don't you paint the country on the map also dark red? You are completely altering the information to the netizens who come to look for this article. That is why we demand on behalf of thousands and millions of Latin American Internet users that you remove Mexico as a "country at war." You only have 2 options, either remove Mexico from the list, or put the United States as a "country at war" as well. This map is total garbage. You just want to scare the people who review this article. You also forget that Brazil suffers more than 60,000 homicides a year, and is not considered a "country at war." So what happened there? All information is wrong here. All the more reason Wikipedia is one of the least reliable sites. 201.164.12.124 (talk) 21:40, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- First of all, I am not the one that added this conflict and I am not responsible for the map or the changes that could happen there. Secondly, the conflict in Mexico is characterised by the presence of paramilitary organisations as well and this is why it's in the list of ongoing armed conflicts, it's not just a drug war or a gang war like the others in this continent, so I do not think that having this conflict in the page is wrong. Besides, in the cumulative fatalities section, the number of deaths is also taking into consideration the casualties that are associated with the conflict and not just the ones that occurred from a battle, for example, homicides related to the conflict or famine. Hope this helps. Whitesin21 (talk) 22:04, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
You are completely wrong.
[edit]Whether or not you are the person who wrote the article, the issue of the paramilitaries in Mexico is so minor that it does not affect society. Now look, I'm Mexican and I know my country very well more than a foreigner. So you don't know much about the situation in the country. The current problem in Mexico is drug trafficking, that's right, that's true. But neither is it a serious armed conflict. So, this page is totally wrong, and you know it, and many also know it. As much as you want to deny it, you are the one who is wrong. Insecurity in Mexico is true, there are dangers but it does not mean that you cannot live or leave home or enjoy life. We Mexicans enjoy many things in our country. We do not live in great fear compared to other countries that are completely ruined. For you to understand better, violence or insecurity in the country is not that it is everywhere. The thing is, the violence is concentrated in certain areas, but in many places in Mexico there is peace and security. 201.164.12.124 (talk) 22:19, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
- I've never said or wrote that the entire Mexico is violent or has a conflict, I'm not denying anything and I'm not wrong. There are numerous articles and research papers online that show the situation on the ground though, and the reality is that there are paramilitary groups active in the fighting and this is a major factor for this conflict to be on the page. Whitesin21 (talk) 09:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
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[edit]Do you mind to look up on Iraqi Air Force. Thx. Ckfasdf (talk) 21:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Gotcha. Whitesin21 (talk) 11:33, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Hey, sorry if my edit was not correct, I did not do it on purpose, I also saw a satellite imagery from Oryx so I assumed that it was indeed officially announced as sunk. Whitesin21 (talk) 15:07, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- That is fine, but Reuters said it could not independently confirm. We need that independent confirmation for Reuters/BBC etc. Llammakey (talk) 15:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I understand. Whitesin21 (talk) 17:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Hello, of course, I will make sure to add references. Whitesin21 (talk) 15:04, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Also, all of my changes are according to information taken from Haaretz and Times of Israel sources, these are my references, but I will add them as well in the future. Whitesin21 (talk) 23:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)