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Kumaon Regiment

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! The proper way to deal with a situation like this, where there's some dispute about what a source actually says, is to bring it up on the article's talk page, including pinging the user in question. If the discussion there fails to resolve the issue, or the editor is unresponsive and continues making the changes, try the steps at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. For now at least it seems like he has moved on, so I would say no action is needed unless he starts back up again. -Elmer Clark (talk) 00:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, just generally speaking, if you run into an issue on Wikipedia and don't know what the right step to take is, a better option than posting on various uninvolved users' talk pages is to ask for guidance at the Teahouse (which I see you were invited to above). -Elmer Clark (talk) 00:26, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi thanks for help but same user now making disruptive edits again with random ip address I request you to lock that article WhiteRaven335 (talk) 05:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You need to follow the steps I listed rather than contacting me for help. You haven't even started a discussion on the talk page yet. -Elmer Clark (talk) 23:57, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello WhiteRaven! Greetings. Can I ask you why you are constantly reverting constructive edits made by me without providing any proper citation or reason. I guess you understand Wikipedia is a platform that needs users like you and me to provide reliable references for each action we make. I am not adding anything new from my own, I’m just restoring the previous version that has been altered before. Kindly suggest me anything that you think is further constructive, but please try to leave a note and citation for your actions, and reasonable summary to support your claim. Else, if this continues, I would request and administrator to intervene. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.148.144.254 (talk) 12:49, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,no need of further Citations ,the source here are enough. Beginning from lead section, the source nowhere says that It (Regiment) recruits Ahirs from North India exclusively or got equal troop composition, hence the specific area finds no place in the lead. Secondly, in this case how can we amend the facts. Which source warrants the modification is certainly needed. The edits made by this ip address are certainly baseless. WhiteRaven335 (talk) 12:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I respect your views, but kindly learn how to address fellow Wikipedians. Also, I’ll add further references for the same, don’t worry. Who says it doesn’t recruit these two groups, you haven’t read it that doesn’t change the facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.148.144.254 (talk) 12:58, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well I guess I'll have to invite an administrator for this then.

Go ahead WhiteRaven335 (talk) 13:17, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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July 2020

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Kumaon Kingdom. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose their editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you. Kautilya3 (talk) 18:53, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for your guidance, i just trying to to improve various article that left incomplete WhiteRaven335 (talk) 19:15, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unexplained reverts and WP:edit warring don't count as "improvement".

"The history of Kumaon is older than that of Ramayana and Mahabharata." Can you tell me which source you have used to make such a claim? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:58, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

i have already deleted it but. kumaon name derived from kurmanchal ,land of kurma avtar of hindu god vishnu so according to hindu scriptures kurma avtar was way before then Mahabharata and ramayan and earliest inhabitants of kumaon are said to be asura naag yaksh and devtas as portrayed in prehistoric stones in the region WhiteRaven335 (talk) 18:06, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed. Thanks for that. We should keep tradition and history separate as far as possible. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:32, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

hi, i need information , can we use youtube videos(if they meet the reliable source criteria) for citation?? a youtube video was used as citation for months on this article Disha Patani,video was basically a interview of actress disha patani she herself answering random questions and talking about her ethnicity, hometown and other personal information ,can it be used as citation in Wikipedia? WhiteRaven335 (talk) 18:01, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please WP:ping me if you need to ask me something here.

Youtube doesn't make any source reliable or unreliable. It is just an uploading platform. The normal rules of WP:RS apply for video sources as well as print sources. But most of us prefer print sources to videos because they are easier for locating information. When a video or audio is cited, they need to provide the time instant where the information is located just like we give page numbers for print sources.

I would normally accept personal information given in a WP:PRIMARY source, but not all editors agree. There is no particular policy on that. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:36, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kumaon Regiment

Would you mind to come to the talk page for discussion on the topic instead of reverting. That section is not sourced. Thanks. Shresthsingh71 (talk) 13:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Synthesis

I am finding you engaging in synthesis at numerous articles; in particular, you seem to misrepresent one source and then use others to extend that initial misrepresentation, to glorify a particular caste or community. My most recent find was on Kumaon regiment, but there have been at least half-a-dozen spotted by me in the last week and I note that others have mentioned it to you in the past, raised the issue with you at Talk:Kumaon Regiment. You’ve also been suggested to discuss on talk page by senior editors, but it seems that you’ve found a way of keen reverting. This is simply not acceptable to build a house of cards in any article. I think you probably need to review your contributions over a long period of time; you certainly need to ensure you do not continue this practise. - Shresthsingh71 (talk) 14:13, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shresthsingh71 well your ip adress seems familiar and i think you didn't read the sources cited in the article. a citation from the official government controlled websites can't be categorized as poor source, secondly where did i glorified a particular community? the paragraph clearly mentions it gets the recruitment from multiple regions(from hills of uttarakhand as well from the different regions of plains) moreover the quantity is as well mentioned in the source. WhiteRaven335 (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I see. Thanks for the complement. I hope you recognise similar IP addressed in all the Wikipedians who edit pages supposedly related to your community. I get that, but rest assured, I am not like you or the one you familiarise with. Well, thanks for replying on the talk page after a very long time, or rather first time to be more specific. Let’s come to the topic. I read the sources, the first one is the indian army website reference, that opens a blank page and that has nothing related to the proportions mentioned here. Reference No. 2 is that of Indian army website main page, or the lead section. Nothing related to Kumaon regiment given on that page, to be specific about this topic. Third reference is the only reference that I found out to be relevant, a book by Gautam Sharma, but that also includes something that you would not or haven’t liked to present here, and of which you’ve only presented partial fact. You ask me to read, ironically I think you should go and take a look at Page nos: 266, 267,270, 275, 280. It is mentioned “Kumaonis form sizeable composition in Kumaon regiment along with Ahirs” You removed “Ahir” from the preexistant sentence and also added Brahman and Kshatriya to the kumaons. At the same time, the 75 percent Kumaon proportion is mentioned that it says is was in 1935, which here says 80, that too in 2020. Meanwhile no recent percentage is either mentioned in the book, nor is any information released by the Army regarding the same. See friend, you may do anything you want to glorify your community, but that doesn’t work here on Wikipedia, you need to do that somewhere else. Refrain from unnecessary reverting. Help Wikipedia stay neutral. Thanks! Shresthsingh71 (talk) 16:40, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Shresthsingh71 as i explained you before.from Beginning to lead section, the source(citation2)nowhere says that It (Regiment) recruits Ahirs from North India exclusively or got equal troop composition, hence the specific area finds no place in the lead. and its funny that you talk about neutrality when you yourself are so eager and frustrated to add a particular community in paragraph and make it to look equal composition when it is not,also you coming with random ip adresses and accounts to vandalize the article because it is not written as per your preferences and the article is well sourced and written, cite an reliable source that mentions the quantity of recruitment has been changed of recently(the present scenario is clearly mentioned in the citation no:1). WhiteRaven335 (talk) 18:28, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Haha. Wow. So easy of you to think that. You should have seen what I edited that you mentioned “vandalism”, it nowhere mentioned both in equal proportions, or that they are from North India exclusively. I also mentioned “predominantly Kumaons”, but now that you’ve mentioned “vandalism” to the constructive edits, inspite of talk page progress, you may go on with your community glorification, I will not let it be a source of enlightenment here. Shresthsingh71 (talk) 18:32, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring notice

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Kumaon Regiment, you may be blocked from editing. Shresthsingh71 (talk) 18:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Scripts of Kumaoni Language.

Hello, I recently saw you reverting my edit on the Kumaoni Wikipedia page. The page has Kumaoni written in the Jaunsari variant of Sirmauri script added. I don't understand why the Jaunsari (Sirmauri) variant is being used for this purpose. Ratri21 (talk) 07:03, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing, the painting 'Raja Vaj Bahadur of Kumaon' does not mention if it was made by a Kumaoni painter or made in Kumaon. Ratri21 (talk) 07:08, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell me how you are considering that painting proving that Takri was being used in Kumaon? Ratri21 (talk) 08:04, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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