User talk:Vrammycowboy

Я думаю вам же следует посмотреть на фотографию кладбища на страничке Agdam. Думаю четко видны следы вандализма и поджогов. Anastasia 04:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

На Вашем же фото отчётливо видно, что кладбище В ПОЛНОМ ПОРЯДКЕ. Обычное заброшенное кладбище. Все надгробные камни ЦЕЛЫ. Может вас смущает сгоревшая трава? Трава по всему карабаху регулярно горит, и вы сами это знаете. Вы пытаетесь подтасовать факты. Также, Ваши откаты неправомерны. Пора уже перестать

Не в первой такое слышала. Отчетливо видно что как многое разбито а не заброшено. Трава, леса, поляны горели долго и не во всем Карабахе а в частности в Агдамском районе уже несколько раз, и в определенных поселках и самом городе Агдам. Все это было в новостях. Anastasia 11:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel Case (talk) 16:28, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

Seems there is some mistake here, I'm new to wiki(few days), and I was surprised when I found that I'm blocked. Have you read the changes that I had made? Agdam is de jure in Azerbaijan but de facto in NKR wich is unrecognized republic. However, current article doesn't contain any mention about NKR and that NKR de facto controls the city and that Agdam s is in Askeran province of NKR. Also, there is declared that cemetry of Agdam is destroyed(without any source of such info), wich I changed and add citation to neutral independent source. Does correcting incomplete and inadequate articles considered as "trolling, disruption or harassment" in wikipedia? And why rollbacks made by azeri users without any rational reason doesn't considered as disruption? However, please unblock me, and I will try to find a compromise with azeri users and support any changes I did with arguments in Talks page.

Decline reason:

We already have enough nationalist POV pushing editors without taking on a new one. Sorry, but edit arring to include nationalist POV material is always going to lose you your editing privileges round here. Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:01, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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If NKR is unrecognized, then the areas legally (and therefore according to third party reliable sources) belong to a recognized civil structure. Nothing you have entered appears to have WP:RS and appears also to be inflammatory in an already somewhat inflamed topic. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, NKR is unrecongnized, and that lands de jure belongs to Azerbaijan. But de facto city is under contorol of de facto independent state Nagorno-Karabakh Republic and article obviously must containt info about this. Im new to wikipedia, so maybe I wrong, but articles about the other cities in NKR (see Stepanakert,Askeran (town),Hadrut (town),Aghdara (town),Shusha and many many others...) contains such info, so why Agdam can't contain it?? Whats the diffrence?

...are your additions supported by third party reliable sources? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

my additions :

1. changed "destroyed cemetry"(without any reference to any source) to "intact abandonded cemetry" supported by referene to georgian-european independent media Caucaz.com.(and there is more sources, if needed, that can be referenced). And the interesting part here, that on the photo is obviosuly seen that the old gravestones are all intact, and the burnt grass(wich obviously can't harm to gravestones) is presented as "destructions".

2. also I'd added that city of Agdam is in the Askeran province of NKR (de facto) with links to askeran province and NKR. No supporting links here(not because they don't exist, but because this is wildly known, again please see Stepanakert,Askeran (town),Hadrut (town),Aghdara (town),Shusha, but if needed such sources can easily be added)

So the fact is, that my edition) was more informative and complete. And fact is that rollbacks by azeri users doesn't have any objective rational reason. In fact, the azeri users were "trolling ,...." not me. Also I was planning to add photo of mosque and panorama of destroyed city, but...:)

In other words, NO, your additions had no reliable sources to back them up. They were rightfully removed, and re-addition of the information into politically-charged articles was disruptive. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, here are translations of the remarks in Russian at at the top of the page, courtesy of User:Anastasia.Bukh:

I think you should take a look at the picture of the cemetery on page Agdam. I reckon signs of vandalism and arson are quite obvious.

And he replies: On your photo it is clear that the cemetery is QUITE ALRIGHT. Just a regular abandoned cemetery. All gravestones are COMPLETE. Maybe you're disturbed by the burned grass? The grass in all Karabakh regularly burns (which is untrue - my comment) and you are aware. You try to present fake facts. Your reverts are wrong. It is time you stop.

And I reply to him: It's not the first time I heard that. It is very clearly seen how everything is indestructive state rather than abandoned. Grass, woods, plains burned for quite some time and not in all Karabakh but specifically in Agdam district. All of this was in the news. Here is a recent one [1], [2], [3], [4].

Beeblebrox (talk) 16:20, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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