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October 2022
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Sex differences in human physiology, you may be blocked from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meters (talk • contribs) 21:05, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- "Vandal" sounds harsh but I suppose it is a technical term so I will try not to feel insulted. The text was clearly illogical and I was confident enuf of this to edit rather than merely commenting, but it was not clear to me how to preserve the baby while discarding the bathwater, so adding a negation seemed the best way to make the correction. I realised that the end result was untidy, and hoped to tidy it up later (or better still that someone else would). I suppose I should have explained this when I made the edit. Maybe you can advise me how to proceed. (I am assuming that it is the manner not the substance of my edit that you are rejecting.) Vidauty (talk) 21:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- The talk page is there if you want to dispute article content without directly editing it. Adding asides or parenthetical comments to the main article isn't the proper way to do it. I encourage you to just make changes to content you think should be changed - if it gets reverted, then take it to the talk page rather than just putting it back. See WP:BRD, WP:3RR. WPscatter t/c 02:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your guidance. Another contributor ("Meters") has commented more specifically on the substance, so I will reply to them about that. On "proper ways", I accept the criticism of the way I did my original edit, but my question to you is, leaving aside the merit of my original edit, why is it valid for someone to revert my edit but not for me to revert theirs? Vidauty (talk) 08:22, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Did you read the pages I linked? WP:BRD, WP:3RR? Essentially, we encourage bold edits, but if someone wants it removed, then you must discuss it rather than just restoring your content; otherwise, you just end up in an edit war. If you're asking why it's that way, well, if we required discussion for every change, the wiki would be improved a lot slower. If we allowed users to just revert reversions they disagreed with ad infinitum, then no content dispute would ever get solved. WPscatter t/c 15:03, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I had overlooked those links. Sorry! I'm still not sure I fully understand the relevant etiquette, but I'm a little wiser now than before, and too fatigued by it all to pursue my remaining questions any further at this time. Vidauty (talk) 17:17, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Did you read the pages I linked? WP:BRD, WP:3RR? Essentially, we encourage bold edits, but if someone wants it removed, then you must discuss it rather than just restoring your content; otherwise, you just end up in an edit war. If you're asking why it's that way, well, if we required discussion for every change, the wiki would be improved a lot slower. If we allowed users to just revert reversions they disagreed with ad infinitum, then no content dispute would ever get solved. WPscatter t/c 15:03, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your guidance. Another contributor ("Meters") has commented more specifically on the substance, so I will reply to them about that. On "proper ways", I accept the criticism of the way I did my original edit, but my question to you is, leaving aside the merit of my original edit, why is it valid for someone to revert my edit but not for me to revert theirs? Vidauty (talk) 08:22, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- (ec) Yes, I specifically object to your edit. Adding your commentary contradicting the existing content is not the way to handle things. Using all caps is never appropriate, and making the same edit three times is even worse (see WP:BRD and WP:EW). The claim was about brain-to-body-mass-ratio, and you were commenting on brain size. Not the same thing. I have simply removed the confusing and apparently unsourced claim wrt height. Meters (talk) 03:03, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. You have removed the main passage I was reacting against, but the word "however" still implies that the study should have controlled "for differences in body size or age" (Note italic! See? I'm learning to use proper formatting!) I could remove "however", but then the whole sentence is pointless, so I am inclined to remove the whole sentence. (The "age" caveat might conceivably have some salience, but unlikely to be much, and it is not explained at all, so it looks to me like someone clutching at straws.) But "once bitten twice shy": can I proceed without stumbling over any more rules? Vidauty (talk) 08:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't see a problem with how it is currently written. The use of "however" makes perfect sense since the following sentence shows that controlling for body weight is indeed important. In any case, the article's talk page is the place to discuss this, not your talk page. Meters (talk) 09:05, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. You have removed the main passage I was reacting against, but the word "however" still implies that the study should have controlled "for differences in body size or age" (Note italic! See? I'm learning to use proper formatting!) I could remove "however", but then the whole sentence is pointless, so I am inclined to remove the whole sentence. (The "age" caveat might conceivably have some salience, but unlikely to be much, and it is not explained at all, so it looks to me like someone clutching at straws.) But "once bitten twice shy": can I proceed without stumbling over any more rules? Vidauty (talk) 08:49, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- The talk page is there if you want to dispute article content without directly editing it. Adding asides or parenthetical comments to the main article isn't the proper way to do it. I encourage you to just make changes to content you think should be changed - if it gets reverted, then take it to the talk page rather than just putting it back. See WP:BRD, WP:3RR. WPscatter t/c 02:50, 5 October 2022 (UTC)