User talk:Vicenarian/Archive 2
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Ah, welcome to my world!
I get such a kick out of getting reamed on my talk page for the deletion of content which the original poster shouldn't have posted in the first place. Anyone here actually read the YFA section? Le sigh...--PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
PS: I deleted the talk page of that idiot that J. Delanoy blocked under WP:DENY. Just another greasy, pimple-faced adolescent who spends way too much time on Encyclopedia Dramatica and who isn't intelligent enough to really contribute. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Suspected sockpuppetry
I thought that we were going to get blocked for something awesome; not sockpuppetry. ;) -t'shael mindmeld 00:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Shaddup, Vulcanface. :-P I'll get blocked for something big, like, er, deleting the main page! ...if I had tools, that is. Vicenarian (T · C) 00:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was told in IRC the other night that you can nominate it for speedy deletion with Twinkle... -t'shael mindmeld 00:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- 1) I'm not THAT gullible, Vulcanhead. 2) I try to stay off IRC for just that reason... people give you crazy ideas. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 03:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. I try to only go in there when I'm working on ACC. Though the CVU channel is fun at times; it makes up for me not being able to Huggle from this computer. -t'shael mindmeld 04:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- 1) I'm not THAT gullible, Vulcanhead. 2) I try to stay off IRC for just that reason... people give you crazy ideas. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 03:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was told in IRC the other night that you can nominate it for speedy deletion with Twinkle... -t'shael mindmeld 00:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
LOL!
Oh my, some things just never go away. :) On a more positive note: I think we may be rid of the little scourge at last. All of his pet articles and his IPs are blocked for at least three months each and he's been quiet as a result. I blocked User:Starwarslover101 yesterday as a fairly obvious but half-hearted attempt and had them run a CU. No other socks and no edits from this account a la his usual "good sock/bad sock" protests. It only took him ten months to get the message. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe he found a new hobby? Coin collecting? I'm a bit of a numismatist myself.
- So... when do we find the time to, you know, create content? Vicenarian (T · C) 03:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Baar (reality TV)
You see, I don't have a TV. I don't know what reality TV shows are about. This one has turned out to actually be notable, but since I don't know what it was about, or even when it ran or on what channel, I started by a placeholder and I'm filling the details in as I research this topic.
Be patient; rushed deletion will bring nobody any profit. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 19:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- That's fine, but work on it in your userspace first. Create it here and move it out when it's ready. Vicenarian (T · C) 19:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- My real problem with your actions here was the removal of the speedy deletion tag. There's a process - using the {{hangon}} tag to indicate you disagree with the speedy deletion of your article. Removal of speedy deletion tags from pages you create yourself is specifically prohibited, and as an experienced editor you should know that, and you were told that, and you were repeatedly warned, but you removed the tag again and again. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- For future reference, it might have been a good idea, once Digwuren gave you this explanation, to re-tag the article along with {{hangon}}. He should know the process with his long experience, but for new users this can show them that someone knows they are contesting the deletion, and resolve the situation. It's not mandatory, just an idea I had. Mangojuicetalk 20:46, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- That's a good idea, I'll try to do that in the future. In fact, I've had a new user or two remove the tag, followed by article reversion and warning two or three times, finally get the message and use hangon. Digwuren was removing the tag so fast, though, it probably wouldn't have done any good. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Dylan620
I've been thinking of asking Dylan to adopt me. Since you are one of his Padawans, I thought I'd ask you what your opinion of him as an adopter is first. -t'shael mindmeld 21:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I see that you have PRODded this article. I guess I just wanted to say thank you; I was going to do it but thought that it might be a little "iffy" coming from me. Thanks again, -t'shael mindmeld 01:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- No problem. You can probably tell I watch both your and PMDrive's talk pages very carefully, LOL. I took a look at that and thought, "It may not be a copyvio, but..." Vicenarian (T · C) 01:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've noticed that the more mistakes I make, the more popular my talk page has become... ;) -t'shael mindmeld 01:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, that's usually the case around here, I find. Vicenarian (T · C) 01:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah well, I suppose with the amount of CSD tagging I do I am bound to make mistakes. At least I didn't get suspended on ACI for stealing requests...:) -t'shael mindmeld 01:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, that's usually the case around here, I find. Vicenarian (T · C) 01:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've noticed that the more mistakes I make, the more popular my talk page has become... ;) -t'shael mindmeld 01:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)What was that I said before about getting WP:WQA on your Vulcan behind? :) Shoo, go tag. I'm actually going to try working on an article. Vicenarian (T · C) 01:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, I think I may go watch the Laker game. Let me know when you get your article written and I'll be sure to incorrectly tag it. ;) -t'shael mindmeld 01:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the poke. :) GO LAKERS! I used to go The Forum when I was a kid. I can honestly say I saw guys like Chamberlain, West, Hairston, Goodrich, Baylor, et. al. actually play. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
It's a gift. Besides, I can sorta kinda watch this site and still do my job. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- So can I, until my boss strolls into my cubicle. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 01:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
A Favour
Will you look at this and tell me what you think? -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 15:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- It looks good, Lord Vulcan. My only concern is that since it's a WP:BLP, you should probably err on the side of using inline citations. I would also look for third-party references, news sources and the like. I'm sure teh Google could pull some. Otherwise, nice! Vicenarian (T · C) 15:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your sage advice, O Good Article Reviewer. :) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 15:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- (e.c.) Also, I'd comment out anything that adds the article to a category for now, including the stub tag. Users might accidentally stumble upon it in your user space through categories... Vicenarian (T · C) 15:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I didn't think of that. Good idea. -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 15:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- (e.c.) Also, I'd comment out anything that adds the article to a category for now, including the stub tag. Users might accidentally stumble upon it in your user space through categories... Vicenarian (T · C) 15:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your sage advice, O Good Article Reviewer. :) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 15:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)If you get a chance, would you mind looking at it again? I added some references as well as some inline citations. Thanks :) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 16:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Beautiful. I would consider moving the The Michigan Daily link into a section called "References," and changing the name of your current "References" section to "Notes." (The news article isn't really an EL so much as an additional reference, albeit an uncited one.) Also, I would also encourage formatting the cites with citation templates. Cite web is the simplest, I find. Vicenarian (T · C) 16:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Goodness gracious. This is more work than I thought..;) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 16:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Is this what you meant? -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 17:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Beautiful. Move it out onto the main page this instant, young man! (PS: This is an alternate account for Vicenarian. See User:Vicenarian.) Tricenarian (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, alternate me. Not surprisingly, regular me concurs. Why has this not been moved yet? Do it before I do... :-P Vicenarian (T · C) 17:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Is this what you meant? -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 17:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Goodness gracious. This is more work than I thought..;) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 16:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
(outdent/ec) Hah. Sorry, I stepped away for lunch. :) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 17:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Lunch? We don't get "lunch." We work on WP! *cracks whip* But yeah, this is why I'm so lazy about creating pages on my own... to make a good one, it takes a lot of work! Vicenarian (T · C) 17:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm.. now it has a cite error on it. Mind taking a look? This wiki-formatting can be a pain, at times.-t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 17:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, you have to put the cite templates in the ref tags, and then use {{reflist}} to display the reference list in your Notes section. Here, I'll clean it up for you. Might as well do something productive, since today's even slower at work than usual. Vicenarian (T · C) 17:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thank you. :) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 17:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, you have to put the cite templates in the ref tags, and then use {{reflist}} to display the reference list in your Notes section. Here, I'll clean it up for you. Might as well do something productive, since today's even slower at work than usual. Vicenarian (T · C) 17:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm.. now it has a cite error on it. Mind taking a look? This wiki-formatting can be a pain, at times.-t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 17:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
(outdent)Tah dah! This could be the start of a beautiful friendship. Wait, that's a quote, I'd better cite it... Vicenarian (T · C) 17:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, that looks lovely. :) Thank you. Do I need to delete user:T'Shael/Scott Boerma or not? -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 17:58, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- You don't HAVE to do so (I think), but if you want to keep your user space clean, I don't see why not. You can request speedy U1, it'll be deleted right quick. Vicenarian (T · C) 18:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- If it's not mandatory, I may not mess with it. :) A little clutter in the userspace is a good thing. Oh, and I really appreciate your help with this, my second article. :) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 18:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm happy to help! I almost do better editing other people's work than I do creating my own. In fact, I'm actually going to cite this article in my essay WP:PRIMETIME as an example of how pages SHOULD be created. :) --Previous unsigned comment by that doofus Vicenarian, who constantly forgets to sign his damn talk page comments
- If it's not mandatory, I may not mess with it. :) A little clutter in the userspace is a good thing. Oh, and I really appreciate your help with this, my second article. :) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 18:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- You don't HAVE to do so (I think), but if you want to keep your user space clean, I don't see why not. You can request speedy U1, it'll be deleted right quick. Vicenarian (T · C) 18:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) Before you do that, perhaps you should start signing your comments? ;) -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 18:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I know what you mean about editing other people's work. I agree. I'm considering an RfA in October, and content creation is something of which I have very little and this seems to be frowned upon. Alas. -t'shael ,Lord of the Vulcans 18:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Re
Never again will I put "if you have any questions feel free to ask me on my talk page" anywhere on Wikipedia..;) -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 18:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Too bad that's included in pretty much EVERY standard Twinkle notification template, lol. Vicenarian (T · C) 18:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm.. you're right. I'll just have to chase them down and then blank that part out. ;) -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 18:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Re: Making Kids Cry?
On V'Shael's talk page, were you talking about me, because I wasn't crying and I'm not a kid (I'm a pre-teen! There's a difference). BriMaster2 (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC) BriMaster2
- Don't worry, I was just teasing T'Shael. I know you weren't crying. Whatever your age, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like it here. Vicenarian (T · C) 13:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- It looks like we both tried to put this up for AfD at the same time. I hope you don't think I was trying to delete your work. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 15:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Heya!
It's your adopter. Sorry that I've been gone for so long, I've been very busy IRL. I see that you've gotten access to ACC since I last checked up on you! Let me know when you're ready to start Lesson #4: Article writing. Cheers! → Dylan620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 16:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Not a problem. I know how distracting real life can be. :) Yes, definitely ready for article writing! I've gotten my hands dirty pretty much everywhere else. Now I want to create some content. Vicenarian (T · C) 17:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
This message was sent to you at 18:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC).
Another Bambifan sock, another Bambifan block.
Thanks much to you and to Cactusjump for alerting me to "Our 'Deer' Little Bambi." You two have become among my favorite users on this site for your friendliness as well as your diligence. In plain English, you guys rock. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- *blush* Thanks, it was really all Cactus. I just took one look at those edits and edit summaries and got a familiar chill. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
I know the feeling, dude. Cactusjump earned one of these and you certainly have as well:
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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
| For conspicuous gallantry in the face of a very persistent vandal, it is my honor and privilege to bestow this Anti-Vandalism Barnstar upon you this day. You more than earned this and I only wish there was a better way to express my gratitude and that of the others who volunteer their time on this site. PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC) |
Thank you, my brother-in-arms. :) Gotta run, but take care and keep up the good work. You da bestest. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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Ah, nothing like a little dessert right after lunch and before I hit the road to go to work. Thanks much. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- I must agree with PMDrive1061. While I haven't had any experiences with Cactus, you are quite an asset to this site. :) -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 20:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you all! It's nice to be appreciated. Vicenarian (T · C) 21:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
See all the fun that 7 and I had last night? Not as impressive as you getting 14 admins to converge on a single user page, but interesting nonetheless. ;) -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 12:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, my admin attracting powers are unmatched - but that's interesting. What was the wee one trying to do, exactly? Vicenarian (T · C) 13:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- He uploaded a picture of himself at Commons and was trying to create an article about himself using said picture. The only problems were: a) he is 11; b) he was putting his real name/place of residence in the article making it; c) fairly easy to find him. -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 14:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- A+B+C = Trouble. Good going. Vicenarian (T · C) 15:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. :) It was grand fun -- wish you could have been there. -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 15:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- A+B+C = Trouble. Good going. Vicenarian (T · C) 15:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- He uploaded a picture of himself at Commons and was trying to create an article about himself using said picture. The only problems were: a) he is 11; b) he was putting his real name/place of residence in the article making it; c) fairly easy to find him. -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 14:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) I'm without a computer at home right now (defective LCD screen), so I'm only on at work, 13:00 - 22:00 UTC. Sorry I had to miss it. Vicenarian (T · C) 15:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, that sucks. You should get a MacBook. But, it's nice that you can be on at work without getting into trouble (I hope?). -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 15:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- As long as I get my work done! :) Vicenarian (T · C) 15:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
: 15 June 2009
- Book review :Review of Cyberchiefs: Autonomy and Authority in Online Tribes
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- Wikipedia in the news: In the Google News, London Review of Books, and more
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Chemistry
- Discussion report: Discussion Reports And Miscellaneous Articulations
- Features and admins: Approved this week
- Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News
- Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation
Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 12:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Comrade in arms!
Another cookie for you, for your continued good humor in the midst of fighting crime. Mwah ah ah.
Cactusjump (talk) 17:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC) has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. {{subst:if||| {{{message}}} ||subst=subst:}} To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!
Thanks. Cactusjump (talk) 17:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I suspect as much about the image as being a blatant copyvio... but where does it say on Gawker that the image is from AP? Tabercil (talk) 22:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Gawker doesn't say (although the file names for all the photos on that page begin with "AP"), but see this. The photos are mentioned as being AP. Vicenarian (T · C) 22:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Perfect. One more image goes DOA... Tabercil (talk) 22:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Vicenarian (T · C) 22:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... a half-dozen images down and I'm still hunting. Think I'll juct clear out the remainder as unsourced and note that uploader also uploaded a number of known copyvios. Tabercil (talk) 22:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Go for it. They're all doubtful enough, no need for the extra work. Took me a bit to find that page explicitly mentioning the AP as the source for the Megan Joy photo. Vicenarian (T · C) 22:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- And done again. <G> Tabercil (talk) 22:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the good mopwork! :-) Vicenarian (T · C) 22:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- And done again. <G> Tabercil (talk) 22:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Go for it. They're all doubtful enough, no need for the extra work. Took me a bit to find that page explicitly mentioning the AP as the source for the Megan Joy photo. Vicenarian (T · C) 22:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm... a half-dozen images down and I'm still hunting. Think I'll juct clear out the remainder as unsourced and note that uploader also uploaded a number of known copyvios. Tabercil (talk) 22:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Many thanks! Vicenarian (T · C) 22:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Perfect. One more image goes DOA... Tabercil (talk) 22:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Happy Vicenarian's Day!
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Vicenarian has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, |
→ Dylan620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 00:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, Dylan, from the bottom of my heart. :) It's an honor to work with great Wikipedians such as yourself. Here's to many more days of making WP the greatest free encyclopedia in history!
- Tricenarian (talk) 14:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC) **Vicenarian, signed in from a public computer.**
NawlinWiki list of things that will get speedy deleted
Is it not the same as WP:STUPID? Or similar. 211.30.108.47 (talk) 13:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- Certainly similar. A lot of editors who do new page patrol or speedy deletions come up with their own lists of things they see often. I happen to like NawlinWiki's. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 14:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Wikibreak
Hey, Vicenarian, I hope that your wikibreak is refreshing and you come back at 110%. Have fun! :) -T'Shael, Lord of the Vulcans 02:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
: 22 June 2009
- Special report:Study of vandalism survival times
- News and notes: Wikizine, video editing, milestones
- Wikipedia in the news: Wikipedia impacts town's reputation, assorted blogging
- Discussion report: Discussion Reports And Miscellaneous Articulations
- Features and admins: Approved this week
- Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News
- Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation
Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 03:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
Oops, metro train accident name change
I thought very, very carefully, taking all potential points of view. However, I forgot to look if there was a discussion. I will be more careful next time. But this shows that I am a very analytical and fair person because my own internal deliberations satisfied all points of view! User F203 (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, not a problem. You not only solved the problem that people had with "accident," but also my earlier point that "Metro" is both a bus and rail system, so that "Metrorail" should be used to distinguish. However, the WP standard seems to be "Washington Metro" to refer to the train system. So yes, you solved all the problems without even realizing it. :) A+! Vicenarian (T · C) 16:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- I actually took that into consideration because I knew some people call it Metrobus and Metrorail. Also, read the BBC article carefully, near the bottom third, where it says the train was going in the lightly travelled direction (opposite the heavy commuter passenger traffic/going to suburbs). I'm going to give the article a rest for now. User F203 (talk) 16:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I see it now. Missed that the first time around. Vicenarian (T · C) 16:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
- I actually took that into consideration because I knew some people call it Metrobus and Metrorail. Also, read the BBC article carefully, near the bottom third, where it says the train was going in the lightly travelled direction (opposite the heavy commuter passenger traffic/going to suburbs). I'm going to give the article a rest for now. User F203 (talk) 16:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
article name in introduction
Wikipedia has a bad habit of creating a name and using awkward language in the 1st sentence.
Nobody else uses the term "2009 Washington Metro train collision" or similar. We are creating an article name from original research. Since there is no agreed upon name worldwide, we do have to create a name but it doesn't have to be used in the introduction.
In WP, we usually use awkward language such as...
The 2009 Bombay bomb blast was a bomb blast in Bombay. Here, we are almost saying "The 2009 Washington Metro train collision was a train collision in 2009.". User F203 (talk) 21:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
The link you gave gives the exception!
If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence.[2] However, if the article title is merely descriptive—such as Electrical characteristics of dynamic loudspeakers—the title does not need to appear verbatim in the main text.
This title is descriptive. It is not "Finland". It is not "West High School". It is a descriptive, Wikipedia-created name. You are a smart person who discussing things well, hence the discussion. I am not out to fight so I haven't discussed this in the talk page or RFC yet. User F203 (talk) 21:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be 2 kinds of article with this weird and awkward prose, events and murders. "The Murder of Joe Wiki was when Joe Wiki was stabbed on January 1, 2001" or "The 2009 Bombay blases was when Bombay was bombed in a terrorist attack".
Correct me if I'm wrong. We both agree that it bad prose. We can't figure out how to change it. You cite the MOS. I cite a possible exception. But we both agree that it sounds poorly written. Is this accurate? If so, I will think of ways to improve the quality of WP writing. I just want a second opinion that it sounds less than perfect.
In contrast, articles for countries and people include the article title and are perfectly acceptable. "General Charles deGaulle (18xx-196x) was a French general and statesman...." or "Finland is a country in northern Europe..."
User F203 (talk) 15:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
I have no idea why I'm leaving a talkback notice as I know that you watch my pages. Ah well..;) T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, that's exactly what I was about to say. Way to pollute my talk page with colorful templates! Vicenarian (T · C) 18:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I aim to please. ;) Just think of it as a little colour to brighten up your day. -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Abuse Filter
I thought that I was bad having tripped the abuse filter thrice. You, on the other hand are almost .. epic. ;) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but for the most part, I was simply a new user taking bold action... and I'm not sure what the filter regarding my PROD nominations is all about; all my PRODs go through Twinkle, but sometimes I go back and edit/reword my justification. YOU on the other hand... MJ vandalism? Short page creation? YouTube link??!! My my my. Vicenarian (T · C) 19:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, yes, I've turned over a new leaf since you've been away. ;) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I hate seeing dozens of posts labelled "thanks" on talk pages, so I won't call this one thanks
Thanks for that Barnstar, I didn't realise I was funny (despite having multiple Good Humour Awards). Anyway, you can have this userbox if you want.
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This user gave Spongefrog (or his sidekick Scribbes) a barnstar and is on a Non-Shame List. |
Scribbles (ScribbleStick) is my sidekick. He doesn't seem to mind. Of course, if you don't want it, you don't have to use it. It's not very well made either. I'll soon add you to the non-shame list and your award to the page HERE. Spongefrog, (talk to me, or else) 20:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will display your userbox with pride. Don't forget your new title, Lord S-dogg. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I won't, don't worry. I just got busy with someone cracking my anti-vandal system, so once I've updated it to fix edit tags within the article (you know what I mean) I'll add your barnstar to the barnstar page. Spongefrog, (talk to me, or else) 20:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- And now I have cracked it. Muhahahahaha! Vicenarian (T · C) 14:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I'll make it better tomorrow. So that you can't crack it (but don't do it again, its annoying). I don't mind, but my page doesn't tell you to vandalise. I don't know where this rumour has sprung up, my page actually asks you to edit not to vandalise, which are not exactly the same thing. Who cares though. Spongefrog, (talk to me, or else) 15:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I apologize if I have caused annoyance. I will desist. Clever system, though. Would confuse the heck out of most actual vandals. Vicenarian (T · C) 15:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Funny revert
I saw this one, which you reverted right before I could. I was laughing out loud; that's why you beat me to it! Newportm (talk) 02:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha, yeah, I did think it was funny, but my Huggle trigger finger was itchy. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 02:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Your wikistress metre
Why so serious? ;) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- What is this "metre" you speak of? My Firefox spellchecker says it's spelled wrong!! Vicenarian (T · C) 17:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps your Firefox is confused? My Firefox doesn't seem to mind it. :) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- On a different note, where is it that you find "Wikipedia is not for things made up one day"? I cannot seem to locate it. -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Appropriately, at WP:MADEUP. Vicenarian (T · C) 17:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wow. How did I not guess that? Maybe I need to go back to bed. ;) Thank you, as always. -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Appropriately, at WP:MADEUP. Vicenarian (T · C) 17:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- On a different note, where is it that you find "Wikipedia is not for things made up one day"? I cannot seem to locate it. -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps your Firefox is confused? My Firefox doesn't seem to mind it. :) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
GA Question
What, in your opinion, are the chances of getting an article such as Creeping Death to GA status? -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- For starters, I smell a good deal of original research, especially the part about the lyrics and the plagues. Also, there are almost no references whatsoever. You could certainly get it to GA status with some work; outside sourcing would be a good first step. Vicenarian (T · C) 19:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, okay, thanks. :) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
re:Bubba's talk page
No, not at all. I was just having a bit of fun and apologise if I offended you. -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I was completely joking, of course. :) About the fighting part - I did come up with my name based on that article. Vicenarian (T · C) 19:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, okay, I thought you were but I just wanted to make sure. :) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- "Big whoop, wanna fight about it?" I think that's a Family Guy reference, but my mind is so mutilated from trashy TV, it could be from anywhere. Vicenarian (T · C) 19:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't think you were serious at all and thought it was absolutely hilarious. – B.hotep •talk• 19:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- *bows* I aim to please, Master Bubba. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Although, I was hoping for a wiki-fracas. Makes the day seem worthwhile! T'Shael said you smell, btw. I know. I told him, but you know him! – B.hotep •talk• 20:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- *bows* I aim to please, Master Bubba. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't think you were serious at all and thought it was absolutely hilarious. – B.hotep •talk• 19:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- "Big whoop, wanna fight about it?" I think that's a Family Guy reference, but my mind is so mutilated from trashy TV, it could be from anywhere. Vicenarian (T · C) 19:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, okay, I thought you were but I just wanted to make sure. :) -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
June 2009
Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made to user talk:T'Shael has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Thank you. Time about is fair play, ;-P T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please see WP:DNTTR. Thank you. See this is at least educational. – B.hotep •talk• 20:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please see WP:TTR. :-P And I believe it's "turnabout is fair play," Lord Vulcan. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ack. That would have been funnier had I used the correct phrase. -T'Shael,The Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- Please see WP:TTR. :-P And I believe it's "turnabout is fair play," Lord Vulcan. Vicenarian (T · C) 20:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I don't know about you, but this version has its charm, no? -T'Shael,The Infernal Vulcan Overlord 16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 02:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm just GLOOBA with that. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 02:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Zionism
Please explain what was wrong with my recent edit that you reverted. The groups described were all Zionist, as a check on Irgun and Lehi confirms. Given that the previous sentence identifies them as Jews, I found your edit destructive. Please consider reverting it, as I do not wish to violate the 3r rule. If you disagree, please explain yourself on the talk page there.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I apologize if you felt it was destructive. The word "Zionist" often appears in vandalism, so it attracts a lot of attention. Your edit was in good faith and I apologize. However, I did not revert your latest edit. I see you have brought the issue up on the article's talk page. That's a good place to start building consensus for making the change. Happy editing! Regards, Vicenarian (T · C) 02:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- Zionist or Zionist? Thank you for the apology.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Is your question about which version appears in vandalism, or which you should use? Vandals don't usually wikilink. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 02:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't think so. Any way of distinguishing between the two on the automated edit thing? Should be. Thanks.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it will appear as such: [[Zionist]]. Vicenarian (T · C) 02:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't think so. Any way of distinguishing between the two on the automated edit thing? Should be. Thanks.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Is your question about which version appears in vandalism, or which you should use? Vandals don't usually wikilink. :) Vicenarian (T · C) 02:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- Zionist or Zionist? Thank you for the apology.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
This Isn't War
Something about needing medication?
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what about his comment about "medication" ... back off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.21.136 (talk)
I forgot what is was now. Maybe I do need new meds!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.21.136 (talk) 19:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC) |
Ever seen a sysop vandalise???
Well, you have now.
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Here it is. -t'shaelchat 19:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
←Hey, if you have ideas for CONSTRUCTIVE improvements, go for it. :) If I don't like it, I'll just revert it. Vicenarian (T · C) 19:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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Were you aware that you can nominate articles for deletion with Twinkle? I've been doing it manually...:( -t'shaelchat 04:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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In which there is strangeness.
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Strangest. AfD. Ever. -t'shael the sockTalk to my master 00:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hello, my adoptee!
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I hope you had a wonderful 4th of July. I personally spent most of it huggling. Let me know when you're ready to proceed to the next lesson; Wikignoming! :D → Dylan620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 23:59, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
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A second message: Bambifan?
In which we catch the scent of troll.
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Hello again, Vicenarian! Since you seem to have experience with User:Bambifan101, would you consider this to be his work? Thanks, → Dylan620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 19:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
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Do you have any idea?
In which I have no idea.
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But could this be a sleeper sock? User:It is me again Abce2|Free LemonadeOnly 25 cents! 00:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't know. Another user, T'sheal, recamened I ask you this.Abce2|Free LemonadeOnly 25 cents!(Sign here) 22:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC) |
Autoconfirmation is too easy to attain
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Four days and 10 edits just doesn't seem like long enough, or enough edits, for me. Thoughts? -t'shaélchat 01:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Wisdom sought once more
In which I am wise again... at a price.
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You know more about copyright than I do, can I use File:ShaniaTwain3.jpg on my user page? -t'shaélchat 01:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Trouted
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 Whack! You have been trouted for: this edit summary. :) -t'shaélchat 02:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Suggestion
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Why not just replace your user page with "#REDIRECT [[user:T'Shael]]?" ;) -t'shaélchat 03:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
←Ah, good. Never know when someone will need it. -t'shaélchat 03:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC) |
Teamwork is teh good
In which teamwork is teh good and a sock is obvious.
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Would you be interested in collaborating on an article sometime? -t'shaélchat 05:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
←"T" is fine, I can't be Javert for at least a week. ;) Impressive that you noticed this, though, as my usurpation request isn't even in the first 50 on my contributions page. Anyway, I could be selfish and say Ruthie Henshall, but it really should be an article that we're both interested in, that way neither of us finds it tedious. -t'shaélchat 20:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
←Any way to work the shenanigans at user talk:NawlinWiki into the essay? -t'shaélchat 21:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
←I think it would be acceptable, if NW gives you the go-ahead. Problem with that, though, is that I don't know if you can isolate a chunk of past page history out from more current page history - user talk pages are likely to change rapidly. You might be able to do so with some fiddling... I say go forth, young man. :-) Vicenarian (T · C) 21:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Image on Benjamin Franklin Gilbert
In which I receive help.
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{{helpme}} There seems to be some issue with the syntax used to add the image to the infobox... can someone help me fix it? Vicenarian (T · C) 15:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Talkback
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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. The lesson page is up! → Dylan620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 17:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC) |
Excuse me
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But do you know how to run Huggle on a Macbook?Abce2|Free LemonadeOnly 25 cents!(Sign here) 20:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Obviously
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I like the changes that you have made. Good show, old chap. ;) -t'shaélchat 23:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
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Some vacation...
In which a nasty troll won't drag us down.
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I check in for a moment and the little jackass in Mobile is messing with my talk page, expecting me to believe that he's a well-meaning IP reporting a Bambifan sock. What a joke. That IP has now been blocked for one year, I am off to protect his latest round of articles...if I don't throw this computer across the room first. Thanks for the well-wishes, BTW. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC) Bless you. Had to change plans, which has put me in a really foul mood anyway. Thank heavens there are a few islands of sanity like you on this site. See you soon. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC) |
Eddie Maguire
In which I cease and desist.
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My edits improved the accuracy of the article. Llewellyn's affidavit contained not mere "allegations" and was not merely "written". It contained sworn evidence to the Court. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.219.74 (talk) 04:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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Explain
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What did I say that was not true? There was no personal attack...--Tiocfaídh Ár Lá (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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The Biggest Favour Ever
In which I do the biggest favour ever and some mention is made of black holes.
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Remember what wonderful work with the references you did for me at Scott Boerma? If you wouldn't mind, could you do the same at Ruthie Henshall? I would reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally appreciate it and would give you barnstars and a "support" !vote at banhammer armament. :D Best, t'shaélchat 06:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
←Oops. -t'shaélchat 01:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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Open request
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You left an open request on the ACC tool.--Rockfang (talk) 20:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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Please read WP:CIVIL
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Per this. You might also take a gander atWP:DONOTEVERCHANGEANYTHINGTHATTSHAELDOESORFACETHEMIGHTYBANHAMMER -t'shaélchat 01:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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Mmm..crunchy barnstar
In which I humbly accept accolades for my work and plug an essay.
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*Ding*
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You've got mail. :) t'shaélchat 03:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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Hey you stalker
In which I am thanked for stalking.
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No, don't take that as an insult. In fact, I would like to thank you for helping me on Spongy's talk page. Cheers. :-)Rkr1991 (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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Adoption
In which I advise on adoption.
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I want to be adopted, just like you. What do I do ?Rkr1991 (talk) 14:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks. Rkr1991 (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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At your earliest convenience...
In which I get MORE email.
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...please head to your email and notice that you have a new message. :) t'shaélchat 21:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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You's got some 'splainin to do
In which I steal again, WP:NOTMYSPACE is violated and Spongefrog (talk · contribs) has an awesome page HERE.
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What is this? -t'shaélchat 22:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
←I have the occasional flash of brilliance, y'know. Vicenarian (T · C)
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Wikipedian of the Day
In which I Rock the Casbah.
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 Note: You could also receive the "Wikipedian of the Week" award for this week! Happy editing!
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I've been adopted !!
In which a big WikiFamily is formed.
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Know what, guys ? I've just been adopted by Dylon620(yes, the one and the same).Rkr1991 (talk) 13:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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Help?
In which I give help.
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Hi Vicenarian, I got a message from you here: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:97.65.82.99#June_2009 And I never made those changes! Is it possible my account was hacked? I'm really lost and don't know what to do. Thanks! Herbsandspices (talk) 17:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! I have only ever made one change to Wikipedia, so my 120 day login must have expired, and I didn't ever log back in. Scary!Herbsandspices (talk) 18:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks much for your help - I'm working with my IT group to get to the bottom of this. Herbsandspices (talk) 19:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC) |
Ask and you shall receive
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Sock puppetry again
In which I battle those who would break teh wiki. (And win.)
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Hi there again Vicenarian! Do you think you could help me? I think Orsahnses is playing the sockpuppet game again. Their IP was recently blocked. I'm most certain that this Orsahnses evading their block again with the reason that their edit summaries and personal attacks are similar and the fact that the IP's are very similar. History. It seems that I've found another account used by Orsahnses, it's Orceous, and they were performing edits during the ban. The thing that I need help is what really to do since the case was already marked as archived. Elockid (talk) 13:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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