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August 2024

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Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit(s) you made to Graphitization, did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use your sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. You added an unsourced statements that reflected your view on the meaning of graphitization, which others who have published in the field do not support. Unsourced opinions are inappropriate. I also trimmed blatant promo you added to Graphite, also very inappropriate. Ldm1954 (talk) 02:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I first want to apologize for any issues I may have created, I do have a few comments and questions.
I apologize for my unsourced statements, I'm one of the worlds experts on graphite and have spent most of my life studying it. I'll be more diligent in citing my statements.
As for the other section I apologize, I didn't see it as an promo, merely showing current cutting edge work I find to be on the forefront of current graphite synthesis work, in addition the section below it was blatant and based on poor science at that, although I should re review their recent research if they even publish their work.
Again, my apologies. viv (talk) 02:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Wikipedia is in many ways stricter then scientific journals when it comes to sourcing. You also have to go to extended lengths to include alternate views even when you don't believe them, which can be hard.
N.B., remember that the terms "graphitization", "graphitic carbon(s)" and similar predate graphene and even buckyballs by decades, for instance in the catalysis and tribology communities. Ldm1954 (talk) 11:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I really appreciate your advice; I will be much more diligent in the future with sourcing. Including alternate views shouldn't be too difficult for me. I know it's a term that has been around for a long time but in modern papers I have been seeing it used more and more to justify the formation of graphite which is not graphite. I guess I should have spent more time and worked through it in a sandbox first before editing pages and rounding out the sections. Carbons with graphitic character are everywhere but that doesn't necessitate graphite I suppose was what I was trying to get at.
If you were willing to help me, I am going to make a sandbox page focused on revamping and updating the graphite and graphitization pages particularly as graphite is moving more into the public sphere and is a critical mineral, especially to the world's sustainable future. I would appreciate any guidance and help you would be willing to give! Graphite and graphitization are two things I am passionate about as well as accurate, complete and well-rounded sources of information about science for the greater non-science community. viv (talk) 19:09, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am happy to help, although I have (of course) far too much to do. I certainly agree about some of the terms, for instance "polygraphene" makes me quake. My experience in the topic can be found in DOI 10.1007/s11249-016-0720-9 and you can track back to my page from my userID. Ldm1954 (talk) 19:18, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I really appreciate that, and totally understand, I myself am in the same boat and probably wont be able to spend as much time as I would like on this project. I'm glad to hear that, its a little of the same for me when I see multilayered turbostratic graphene nanostructures labeled as synthesis of graphite. I really enjoyed reading that article, it gave me a few ideas as well in my own research as well as made me miss my work with nanostructured carbonaceous materials that I haven't been able to focus on as of late. Most of my work is focused on large scale rational design of graphite particles and flakes to provide an alternative sustainable and resource independent means of supplying graphite anywhere in the world and reduce the 93% monopoly over graphite as well as produce it industrially (of which there are only 2 methods of industrial graphite production in existence currently). If your interested, some of my own work can be found here: [1]https://doi.org/10.1021/acssuschemeng.8b02799 viv (talk) 21:04, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Minor comment about Graphite; few will understand the phase diagram. I did not and had to go to the original, full caption -- and I have taught beginners phase diagrams. There is also the subtle point of what is the meaning of metastable in a phase diagram (versus a phase map). Ldm1954 (talk) 12:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024

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