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wp: an/i

I'm going to WP: An/I about you again, don't be supprised that these accusations of my being a trole are false. You think i'm making up that i'm blind just to get attention, right, and bugs bunny just came to life, pleased to meet you. I'm not messing around, which you seem to think. I'm not starting a fight, i'm telling it like it is, and you're not. I'm not a trole, and for your information, Kerri Kenney does care that she did the voice of Warmonga, because she got paid to do it. Good luck dealing with AnI, and don't try to worm your way out of it with this trole nonsense. There's a difference between a trole and persistance, and i think you need to review the difference between the two. persistance is when someone is absolutely determined to do something, and will not let anything stop them. remember that before you go reporting me as a trole please. If you leave any trole messages on my talk page, i'll dismiss them without prejudice. N.I.M. I miss you Go behind the line. 19:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do. Your trollish actions need more attention in hope that you will soon be blocked. -- kainaw ™ 19:30, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mention of your name at AN/I

Hi Kainaw. This is just to let you know that I mentioned your name at AN/I recently (diff – it has to do, btw, with exactly the issue being discussed in the section on this page immediately preceding this one). Regards, WikiDao ☯ 03:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see above, I warned him that he would soon be blocked. He had the chance to listen. -- kainaw ™ 13:49, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note

I like your "wall of fame" of unintentionally funny insults written by other editors. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:06, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I have been considering adding a note on how many are now indef-blocked. -- kainaw ™ 14:09, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to comment that a simple checkmark such as

Done or

Fixed might be good for the ones sent to the phantom zone. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:26, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The library computer mouse

It was after hours for the person who could fix it. I didn't report it at the time for that reason, and there were no other available computers, but I decided to ask at the reference desk.

While I don't know what specifically was wrong, I was there this morning when someone had the problem and reported it. Hearing this, I mentioned that I had reported the same problem, so they'd know how long it had been. The man at the library said maybe they could get a new mouse. Before I left, a man was apparently hooking up a new mouse.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:19, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors

Hi! Since you've been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, I wanted to let you know about the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, and specifically the role of Online Ambassador. We're looking for friendly Wikipedians who are good at reviewing articles and giving feedback to serve as mentors for students who are assigned to write for Wikipedia in their classes.

If that sounds like you and you're interested, I encourage you to take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors during the current term, which started in January and goes through early May. If that's something you want to do, please apply!

You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are friendliness, regular activity (since mentorship is a commitment that spans several months), and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones).

I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thought about it, but don't have time. Thanks. -- kainaw ™ 13:18, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merging edible paper with edible images

Hello Kainaw,

As the founder of the edible paper page, I would like to inform you that I am planning on merging your page with the edible image page, and than moving the page called edible ink printing. Both pages are very small, and are almost exactly over the same subject. your feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Oldag07 (talk) 15:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. There can't be that much info on edible paper/ink. -- kainaw ™ 13:19, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment was edited

While I was watching recent changes I noticed that your comment was edited by another user. I reverted the change and will alert the user. Nimur (talk) 18:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I put it back in because it was an important correction. -- kainaw ™ 19:30, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my response was a little knee-jerk. On closer inspection it appears there was never any ill-intent. Nimur (talk) 19:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The_Scorpion_King_3:_Rise_of_the_Dead

Also according to this article: http://www.movieweb.com/news/the-scorpion-king-3-begins-shooting-in-thailand The_Scorpion_King_3:_Rise_of_the_Dead is going to be theaters in December 2011. Should that release be noted in the article? Neptunekh2 (talk) 00:36, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article already states that will be released in 2011. The exact date of release isn't fixed (yet). -- kainaw ™ 00:42, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandra Powers

Should Alexandra Powers be in the category Coverts to Buddhism? Because it says in her article that she was a Buddhist for 6 months. Thanks!

In my opinion, a convert is someone who still is a Buddhist. But, that is just an opinion. -- kainaw ™ 13:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Botswana LGBT-related films

1. I think The_No._1_Ladies'_Detective_Agency_(TV_series) should go under the category Botswana LGBT-related films since the pliot was a made for tv film and there is a gay character in the series and it also should go under Botswana-LGBT-related television programmes. Please say your opinion about this matter. 2. Does Wikipedia have the right to talk about celebrities personal lives? Does Wikipedia have the right to talk about celebrities personal lives? It seems that Wikipedia has become a gossip blog or something. It talk about people's personal live and half of it might not even be true. Is that what an encyclopedia is suppose to do? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My opinions:

A movie is a movie if it is made as a movie. Even made-for-TV movies are movies. A television series is not a movie unless it is a movie that is also a series (Futurama made some movies that were later chopped up into series).
Having a gay character in a movie doesn't make it a gay movie. Practically every movie and television show that comes out of the United States has at least one gay character.
Wikipedia has a good policy on biographies of living people here. It is designed to handle the gossipy nature of the articles.

I hope that answers all your questions. If not, please try the help desk. -- kainaw ™ 12:13, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The_Seventh_Coin

Could you do me a favor? Could you write a summary for the Seventh Coin movie based on this summary: http://www.movieguide.org/reviews/movie/the-seventh-coin.html Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not today. I have a paper to submit today, one to submit tomorrow, and another that has to go for review before Thursday. If you want to write my papers, I'd have time to write about a movie. -- kainaw ™ 12:43, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BibTex

Thanks for your reply. I managed to get it working. I was running CMD as a system admin, and that was causing a problem. I ran it normally and all works well. How do I include mathematics symbols in my BibTex data base? For example I have

@ARTICLE{label,
    AUTHOR = "Smith, J.",
    TITLE = "A wonderful theorem about ${\bold R}^n$",
    JOURNAL = "Some Journal",
    VOLUME = "123",
    NUMBER = "1",
    PAGES = "111 -- 222",
    YEAR = "2010".
    }

but when I run my main LaTeX file I get errors. If I remove ${\bold R}^n$ then it works perfectly. I've tried $\mathbb{R}^n$ and that doesn't work. How do I include maths formulas in my BibTex database? Fly by Night on Tour (talk) 19:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of quotes, use curly brackets, like {A wonderful theorem about ${\bold R}^n$} -- kainaw ™ 19:28, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spot on! Worked first time. You're a superstar, thanks a lot. As an aside, should I use braces all the time instead of speech marks? Fly by Night on Tour (talk) 19:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is purely up to you. I use quotes all the time except when I have to use curly brackets for math or special symbols. -- kainaw ™ 12:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Julie Kavner

Should Julie Kavner go under the catgeory American_people_of_Jewish_descent? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:39, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know. I don't really know who she is. -- kainaw ™ 13:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Drug Formulations Discussion

Hey! I just had a second, but I puked up a couple of paragraphs you may (not?) be interested in here:

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Science/2011_April_7#Marketing_prescription-only_meds_to_the_consumer

I also left you a P.S. - give me a shout back if you want to.

Best regards: Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS (talk) 11:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that guy will ever comprehend that everyone else is talking about the end result of prescribing the medication and he is stuck on talking about the bioeffectiveness of the chemical in the lab. So, I didn't go into detail about studies I've worked on that tried to find reasons for the difference in effectiveness of prescriptions.

You mentioned that you liked the factor value. It is actually called "dose equivalence". It is necessary for detecting a change in dosage. Change in dosage is important for measuring things like therapeutic inertia. So, if you are on 12mg of a brandname drug and your doctor changes you to 18mg of a generic, it appears that he increased the dose. If the generic is a 1.5 dose equivalent to the brandname (meaning it takes 1.5 as much of the generic to equal the brandname), the doctor didn't actually change the dosage. He just adjusted for the dose equivalence. -- kainaw ™ 13:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Three things I like to discuss

1. In the article about Canadian English there should be a section for Dialect in Northern Canada which is Yukon, Northwest Territories, and Nunavut. 2. In the tv series The_No._1_Ladies'_Detective_Agency_(TV_series) BK is a single gay man. Here's proof: http://www.bbc.co.uk/ladies/characters/bk.shtml I think The_No._1_Ladies'_Detective_Agency_(TV_series) should be listed under List_of_dramatic_television_series_with_LGBT_characters. 3. A while ago, I wrote an article about a novel called More Than Weird by English author Martyn_Godfrey but it was deleted. Would it be ok to write the article again? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 08:19, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you have respectable resources to cite, go ahead. If it is just your original research, do more research and find respectable resources about that particular dialect.
I don't know. Never watched the show and I don't pay any attention to that list.
It was deleted because it didn't meet the criteria for a notable book. What changed?

Please note that I am not an admin of any kind at Wikipedia. My opinion doesn't matter to anyone here. -- kainaw ™ 16:37, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Desk

Hello Kainaw. Your comment on the talk page was very valid. Overall, you are a reasonable person, and I will gladly discuss reference desk issues with you. Unfortunately, not everybody on Wikipedia is as reasonable as you are; consequently, we need a little common sense to deal with certain contributions. Please feel free to discuss specific issues directly via my talk-page. Nimur (talk) 17:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have reported Nimur to WP:ANI for his attempt to take ownership of the ref desk talk page, and for edit-warring over it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:45, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to LC's continued activities, he's now got much higher visibility, and a much longer list of users willing to punch him out whenever he shows up. There is no longer any issue with Nimur, FYI. So feel free to box this section up and throw it into the Irish Sea. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 11:39, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disscussion on questions about self-harm on the reference desk

This is probably superfluous as you most likely have the page in your watchlist, but I thought you might be interested as the author of Kainaw's criterion (one of the best written and argued wikipedia essays I have seen, if I may say so) in contributing to this discussion regarding a recent reference desk question. Equisetum (talk | email | contributions) 23:14, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"You can't tell me what to do!" attitude

Hello Kainaw:

In the RD discussion re 'what is a brain ping?', you mention the "You can't tell me what to do!" attitude of many editors.

This strikes a strong chord with me based on my experience here.

Is there somewhere in Wikipedia where the attitude of new editors gets discussed? I mean the general problem, not specific editors. Thank you. Wanderer57 (talk) 23:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I know of. It is mainly a problem of immaturity and, usually, editors do mature over time. -- kainaw ™ 01:43, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Shivers

hi Kainaw what are some synonyms for the 'Holy Shivers' feeling where it feels like electricity is running down your skin? I meditate where I see blue and yellow colors and my body becomes almost without feeling after a while of meditating (also dream very frequently, see lots of details after meditating similar to how I've seen detailed images prior to falling asleep). I think also that this meditation style causes me to feel the tinglies, or Holy Shivers, so I'm curious about it in general. Thx! makeswell (talk) 04:43, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've had the feeling of electricity running down my skin before. I accidentally crossed about 2,000 volts from one hand to the other. It is extremely painful. I was thrown back and into the wall behind me so hard that I was knocked out cold for about 5 minutes. I had a dream that I was riding in the back of a large car. Then, when I woke up, I had tinglies up and down my arms for a couple days. I think the best term for this is electrocution. -- kainaw ™ 12:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HTML Code cleanup

Thank you for the information about HTML Tidier. And for the invitation to use it. It seems to be designed to do just what I need.

Unfortunately I don't know how to use PHP or even to set up the context it needs to run. I hate to be a nuisance but I wonder is there any straightforward way to get HTML Tidier to run on a Windows XP computer that is not set up as a server.

Maybe I'm starting too far back? My use of TSO and MS-DOS goes back to just this side of the dawn of time but I haven't learned how to use more recent technologies like Java and PHP. I would appreciate some candid feedback. Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 23:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Installing PHP is rather easy. You just need to download the Windows binaries from http://windows.php.net/download/ (you want to download the zip file. Thread-safe is important if you have parallel processors). The hard part is that you will need a program that implements the function. So, you'd have to learn a little PHP. It may be easier to look for a "tidier" function written in the language you are using. What language is producing the obfuscated HTML? -- kainaw ™ 12:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NPA

Look, whoop whoop has been a bit of a pest at the refdesk, but your comments on his talk page [1] are completely unacceptable. Please keep your comments WP:CIVIL in the future. It is never ok to refer to another user as "retarded" or to compare their intelligence with that of a rodent. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:32, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I clearly stated that the problem would only exist for some other user who was retarded with an intelligence less than a rodent. -- kainaw ™ 19:34, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ex-CUUUUSSSSSEEEEEE me????? Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty | Averted crashes} 19:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attack to User talk:Whoop whoop pull up

Hi. Please do not place personal attacks on my talk page (or anyone else's for that matter.) I have removed your comment calling me "mentally retarded" and implying that I am less intelligent than a hedgehog - please don't re-add it or anything else of that caliber. Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty | Averted crashes} 19:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you really allowing yourself to fall into the trap that easily? Even my four-year-old son is smart enough to avoid it. -- kainaw ™ 19:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought my last message was pretty clear, but I see a less subtle statement is needed, so here it is: Stop the personal attacks ot you will find yourself blocked. Trying to wikilawyer around it isn't going to fool anyone. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:47, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is NOT a trap! I just needed a little help (thank Beeblebrox for that, will you please?) Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty | Averted crashes} 19:48, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Personal attack removed) -- kainaw ™ 19:50, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

THAT'S IT! Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty | Averted crashes} 19:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you two just leave each other alone? This is really childish on both your parts. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He's just mad because twice today I deleted a question he asked about sticking stuff in the anus. He must be worried that it will hinder his ability to ask more anus questions today. -- kainaw ™ 19:57, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Every time any of you post, Woop's signature triggers Lupin's Vandal filter ^_^ Command and Conquer Expert! ^{speak to me...}_{review me...} 19:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Look, as I said I am aware of the somewhat ridiculous question s he has been asking, and I have attempted to explain the problem without hurling insults. You are not helping, you are aggravating the situation needlessly with your put-downs. If you are so sure you are more mature and intelligent, prove it buy acting like an adult. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:01, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "User:Kainaw posting personal attacks against User:Whoop whoop pull up despite repeated requests to stop". Thank you. Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty | Averted crashes} 20:13, 25 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suicidal Tendencies

Dear Kainaw, Thank You for your Thank You to me! I really think you did a great job on re writing Suicidal's article. If you noticed I added and clarified a few things for you. Did you try and do a "Welcome to Venice" article at some point? I noticed a file that you posted was rejected. Any how I also added and wrote more on the Mike Muir article. I grew up with those guys so I'm quite knowledgeable on that scene. Keep going brother!!! Punkinfo (talk) 07:36, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RE: reverting my post

Sorry about that: it wasn't at all what I meant to do, and I don't really know how that happened. I'd meant to add a reply, although maybe it's best not to anyway. So, sorry for whatever was going on there, but thanks for the revert and for graciously informing me of it. 86.163.1.168 (talk) 20:01, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I couldn't tell what happened either. -- kainaw ™ 20:02, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ada Lovelace Award

		Ada Lovelace Award
		I, SarahStierch, hereby award Kainaw with the Ada Lovelace Award for their quality contributions, including starting the article about Mary Allen Wilkes, about women in computing and technology. Thank you! SarahStierch (talk) 23:51, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. At first I thought it may be because I named by daughter Ada. -- kainaw ™ 00:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where did I ask to be called an "it"?

It is not appropriate to refer to a person as it. That's the usage of serial killers in horror movies. Be aware that nowhere have I objected to being called he or she. That may be an impression you have gotten from reading other's comments. But not my words ever. My sole objection was to a certain user's explaining my positions as due to the supposed fact of my gender and nationality. I am not going to out myself, so you can use whichever of he or she goes better with "medeis" in your mind. The word itself is masculine in Greek, but it does look like Medea to the English Speaker. (Just please do not picture me as Tyler Perry in drag.) Nevertheless, I am not inanimate or subhuman, and having heard people refer to Chaz Bono that way I do find the usage condescending. I am not particularly angry but I really am surprised given the usual quality of your comments. Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 03:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I only skimmed the endless comments and noticed a request for "gender neutral" terminology, which I find silly. My usage of "it" was in reference to how silly I find the concept of gender neutrality in speech. I will happily use "he" or "she" or even switch back and forth in a rather confusing manner. But, I am struck by the claim that there is quality to my comments. I must be having an off day. -- kainaw ™ 12:32, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again, any such request for gender neutral terminology was never by me. I am against gender neutral terminology myself. I wrote a long post on the historical linguistics of he/she/it here [2] I'll reproduce for your amusement:

Pre-Proto-Indo-European (the language spoken some 4,500+ years ago from which English and its relatives in Europe and India descended) distinguished between not gender but animacy in nouns, and possessed the distinction between he/it and who/what with the terms he and who indicating animacy, not masculine gender. The Hittite language, which branched off Proto-Indo-European the earliest, never had a feminine gender or pronoun. The feminine gender is believed to have arisen by the reinterpretation of the -a ending of *gwena "woman", certain kinship terms, and various abstract nouns ending in -a as the laryngeal system (of sounds made in the back of the throat like Arabic) decayed. Hence it is not "he" which is a gender-specific pronoun indication masculine, but "she" which specifically indicates feminine, while the older "he" simply means animate, and not specifically feminine.

Note that Proto-Indo-European has semantic pairs for words such as fire and water which distinguish between animate and inanimate (active and inactive) genders:

egni vs. *pur "fire"
apa/*akwa- vs. *wodor "water"

where the first term indicates an active agent in the animate gender and the second a passive substance in the inanimate, or now, neuter gender (das Wasser, das Feuer). See also the conservative Latin Adjectives of the Third Declension http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Latin_declension#Third_declension_adjectives with their often lack of distinction between masculine and feminine, and the common gender of certain Germanic languages.

The old pronoun system

[+animate]

he, who

is, quis (Latin)

[-animate]

it, what

id, quid (Latin)

with the introduction of

[+animate, +feminine]

she < heo Old English < hea Pre-Germanic

ea Latin

causes the reanalysis

he [+animate not necessarily feminine] changes to [+animate +masculine]

The historic use of "he" as the default pronoun reflects this, as does the lack of any commonly reconstructable ancient feminine adjective system for Proto-Indo-European, and the fact that there are no native feminine "who" forms, since the word was never masculine. The notion that this somehow embodies sexism is a rather historically facile modern misconception. The word he only came to be seen as masculine because the introduced she crowded it out of indicating females. If anything, the argument should be in favor of getting rid of the she pronoun, since it is the sexist neologism.

μηδείς (talk) 00:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The idea of a word with roots in Old English as a neologism is delicious. Thanks. Wanderer57 (talk) 04:14, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure the point is clear that the usage is inherently relative. All words are neologisms at some point. Compared to he, she is the neologism. I am going to stop watching here, since I don't want to be drawn into a long discussion on someone else's talk page. My apologies, Kainaw. μηδείς (talk) 09:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe we could get everyone to adopt the Chinese usage of "Ta" for anyone other than you or me. Note: If you are around Chinese and you hear them refer to Ta a lot - they are talking about you. -- kainaw ™ 13:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Truth Table

I am certain that I could provide a quick answer, but I cannot get past your use of "TFFTTFFT" and "truth table". I teach binary logic in many courses. I teach DNF in many courses. But, in over 20 years of doing this, I have never ever seen a truth table that is just a line of T's and F's. A truth table has the variables on one side and the expression on the other. Then, there are rows for each possible value for each variable and the result of the expression using those variables. Your "TFFTTFFT" has no variables and no expression. -- kainaw ™ 17:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know what a truth table is, but I was giving the truth value of a certain table without the corresponding expression. For example, (P) has a table of T-F. (P & Q) has a table of TFFF. (P -> Q) has a value of TFTT.

What I'm looking for specifically is the complete normal forms, both the disjunctive and the conjunctive, of the operation whose truth table is TFFTTFFT. I've also been told that knowing the literal operation corresponding to TFFTTFFT is not really necessary to solving the problem, which has to do with complete normal forms.

Answered on RD. -- kainaw ™ 18:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After getting an explanation of what you mean by TFFTTFFT, this is a rather straightforward problem. First, notice that TFFT repeats twice. So, A is ignored. (I'm using A, B, and C). The first term will be (A&!A) to force it to false and ignore it. The rest is the negation of XOR. So, XOR would be (B&!C)|(!B&C). The negation is (!B|C)&(B|!C). Translating that to DNF produces (B&C)|(!B&!C). Adding back the first term, you get (A&!A)|(B&C)|(!B&!C). -- kainaw ™ 18:21, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it harder to find the CNF ? And are you using the exclamation mark (!) as a negative operator ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.166.12 (talk) 18:26, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on RD. -- kainaw ™ 18:33, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wes Lee Mon*ay possibly of Springfield, MO

His name is not Tuesday. How can I get his telephone number please? Kittybrewster ☎ 17:43, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wes Lee is a common name in the Ozark basin of Missouri. There are even roads throughout the southern half of the state named Wes Lee or Weslee. Without knowing which Wes Lee you want, it is hard to get a telephone number. The best thing to do is decide who it is you want to contact and looking to see if his number is in the phone book. -- kainaw ™ 17:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

His first names are Wes and Lee. His surname is the day before Tuesday. I can't find a free Springfield telephone directory. Kittybrewster ☎ 17:58, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've never met the Monday's in Springfield, but it is a rather large city. Why not call Bradley. Everyone in Springfield knows him, even though he turned his back on Springfield and lives with Angeline in New Orleans now. -- kainaw ™ 18:02, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hi Kainaw, I appreciate your comments at Talk:Kryptos, but they are a bit too focused on Beckonamist (talk · contribs), rather than strictly on the content of the article. This could be considered a violation of WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA, so would you please consider refactoring (editing) your comments? Best is to keep things focused strictly on the article, and not on contributors. Thanks, --El on ka 21:05, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'm in a bitey mood. -- kainaw ™ 21:07, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Understandable. Note I'm not saying I disagree with you. ;) But thanks for the change. --El on ka 22:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Thanks for protecting Kryptos. Drazil91 (talk) 20:20, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. -- kainaw ™ 21:13, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MPAA ratings

In a post on the Entertainment RefDesk a week ago you mentioned a movie whose title you couldn't remember; perhaps you were thinking of Be Cool (2005). —Mathew5000 (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That's sounds like a very likely candidate. -- kainaw ™ 01:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]