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Guidance

I would like to ask for some guidance. I am trying to add three diffirent articles to Wiki about various New Zealand makes. They have been disallowed by an editor and I don't think the editor is correct. If you are able, can you take a look and provide me with your feedback please.

They are:

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Reid_Steam_Car
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Countess_Mouldings
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Alternative_Cars_Limited_(New_Zealand)

Also on the ever controversial "Fastest production car" entry. The Ferrari F40 is given a higher top speed the the Lamborghini Diablo - should the Diablo be on the list? NealeFamily (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance, I've entered into debate with the reviewer over the merits of the Alternative Cars article, lodged a question in the forum for more information on the Countess Moulding Countach's, and I'm going to rewrite the Reid Steam Car article as a biography - as Reid was significant in a New Zealand context. There is a published biography on a NZ government website that will prove useful. NealeFamily (talk) 07:51, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

copyviol

can you review Kia Picanto for copyviol? --Corvettec6r (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

M20

Hi Typ932, please post on the talk page before reverting my edit again.1292simon (talk) 21:11, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

XmlException in PluginManager.LoadSettingsNewWay

I think you need to update your settings file. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

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Ybsone

Hi, i've cited all the designers i changed, there are many simillar sites witha list of "who designed what?" all have same contents http://www.ajovalo.net/muotoilijat.htm www.arcon.pl/press2006/wiadomosci/wiadomosci124.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ybsone (talkcontribs) 22:07, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

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Turbo Evoluzione

That was a quick update and finding of photo - I don't know if the white tuned 75 is really necessary any longer, it just looks SO good. Cheers,  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 18:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Yep it looks quit e nice,,-->Typ932 T·C 19:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Re: Undo of my edits of the "List of fastest production cars" page...

I added three cars to the list (Countach LP400, Diablo, and EB110 GT) and provided citations for all three to support their top speed. All three citations referenced tests made by reputable car magazines: Motor, Road and Track, and Ruoteclassiche (a division of Quattroruote). I provided links to the specific magazine article where possible, and referenced the exact issue when not possible. This seems to be the standard citation procedure for other cars included in the list. For instance, The Miura citation links to an Autozine article that itself cites Motor magazine (The same type of citation that I used for the EB110) and the 300SL citation references a specific issue of Road and Track magazine but does not provide a link to the article (as I did for the Diablo).

You "undid" my edits and reverted the page to the previous format, saying "needs proper soucre for mention these are world fastests carsm the top speed is not enough."

Can you please be more specific about why the sources that I cited are inadequate? As I documented above, my citation standards are on par with those supporting the other cars listed in the page...

Jvshenderson (talk) 16:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


See my post on the talk page for the article. I agree with user 93.183.236.73 that it is not necessary (and in most cases not possible) to find a source that calls the car "the fastest" but only to find an independent source that measures the top speed. Even so, it seems arbitrary that you would remove my contributions without removing the other cars in the list that do not link to a source stating that the car was the fastest at the time. Jvshenderson (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)


I did read the entire talk page, and quite frankly there are more supporters for my point of view regarding citations that for yours. I agree with the need for verifiable encyclopedic content, but I strongly agree with user 93.183.236.73 when he says "for some of the cars you may never find a credible source explicitly stating that the car is the fastest in the world. Up until 80's this was very rarely claimed by reviewers." and later "I'm well aware of the conceptual problems associated with this particular subject. But unless this thread is entirely removed, it can only be as good as this." and still later says "You can not remove any of these entries without removing all the entries before them. This would break the consistency of the table. Let me explain. If you remove DB4, E-type and Grifo, the table will suggest that 300SL, with the top speed of 140 mph was the fastest production road car up until the Miura introduction. But this is known to be incorrect as we have a proof that there were a faster cars in the 1955-1966 period. And the currently present citations do prove this unambiguously. So to avoid any confusion we'd have to start this table with 288GTO".
Not to mention my own issues with the requirement: "A source stating that "The Grifo was considered the fastest production car one could buy in 1966" is not meaningful because there could have been faster cars that preceeded it but were no longer for sale in 1966, and because it depends on the specific source's definition of "production car.""
I am going to reinstate my edit from yesterday because I believe that the sources I cited are reputable, and it is important to have a more complete table. Please do not remove my additions until there is a clear consensus on the talk page regarding citation standards for the page. Jvshenderson (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

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9 April 2012 3RR

Requested a block on 212.57.79.102 for multiple 3RR violations. Let him be and revert after he's blocked? Meters (talk) 19:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

rumours

Thanks for your work on the turbo articles. It turns out the M3 triple-turbo has a quote from the head of M division, so it isn't a rumour. I am curious about the rumour policy though, could you please post a link to it? 1292simon (talk) 23:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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Citroen C3 Picasso

Thanks for the edits, they were much needed and very useful. Can i ask what this is about?: "62 mpg-imp (4.6 L/100 km; 52 mpg-US)"
What's the US bit about? I assume it's not an American reference since that's inappropriate in this instance for a vehicle that isn't available over there? Thanks Jenova20 15:20, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, perhaps you could give me your opin8on on my recent edits to the article since I removed the tag you put up? I'm not done yet but your opinion would be useful to me. Thanks Jenova20 18:00, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Subaru Outback and friends

I just wanted to invite you to a second discussion regarding whether the Subaru Outback deserves a standalone article or if it ought to be merged into the relevant generational articles of Subaru Legacy (and Impreza). Thank you,  ⊂| Mr.choppers |⊃  (talk) 08:26, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, did you add "in Spanish" to reference 2 that i added this morning? Thanks Jenova20 11:23, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Mini Vote

Hey, I have proposed a vote for something to be agreed on once and for all regarding the Mini issues; http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Mini_%28marque%29#Vote Yellowxander (talk) 11:57, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good, but I am not very familiar with what to do for that, would you be able to?Yellowxander (talk) 13:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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Daimler limousine This section is in a list format that may be better presented using prose

Hi, curious to know why you go to all that trouble when you could simply remedy the bad (? as you see it) section yourself? Eddaido (talk) 10:43, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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Austin A40 Farina

Austin A40 Farina
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GMC Acadia

Thanks for cleaning up the script on the Acadia.74.218.82.179 (talk) 14:28, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

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Notice of move request

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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles

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Question

About this edit. I'm not a very technical person when it comes to cars so i'm unsure how to clarify that. The measurements aren't American as this car isn't sold there. I'm pretty sure they're imperial measurements. Does that help? Thanks Jenova20 (email) 15:45, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Not too sure what your complaint is with my edits of the template... Perhaps your comment is aimed at some of the previous edits? Warren (talk) 23:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Some wafels for you!

Funny, i still call these waffles (is that a British spelling thing?). Thanks a lot for the edit you made to C3 Picasso, it was very much appreciated. Enjoy the rest of your day! Jenova20 (email) 17:30, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Template bug

I remember you understand conversion templates. You may remember I don't. I came across one that translates square feet into acres and uses continental European dividers for the acres, even in English language articles.

6,135,630 square feet (140.855 acres)

The English and Americans would write both numbers using commas as dividers, thus:

6,135,630 140,855

Is this something you are able to correct please? (Or is this problem something on my own computer?) And thank you. Regards Charles01 (talk) 13:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for making the necessary adjustments following the change in the info box template. Something seems to have gone wrong on Daimler Fifteen.

I notice you have also changed some references on Daimler New Fifteen. They were to printed material available in good public libraries and you have changed them to a website which only sells images of them which is by its nature (the website I mean) a very temporary thing. Do you think that is wise? Regards, Eddaido (talk) 05:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry we have misunderstandings. Daimler Fifteen is in a muddle following your edit. New Fifteen: The references were to a printed source not to a web source. You have changed them to a web source, those "for sale" ads will die sooner or later and the source you have put in will no longer exist. The source I had put in will remain in libraries for a long time. Geddit? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 05:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I can't get my explanation across to you. What I'll do is go and start fixing things myself. Please would you write and tell me if what I do makes you unhappy. Eddaido (talk) 05:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Have a look at Daimler Fifteen 1935-1937! Eddaido (talk) 06:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

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C3 Picasso

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I am proposing a renaming of this article, since even in the UK it was only called Riva for certain years (AFAIK). Cheers,  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:37, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I brought it up here. Cheers,  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:18, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Photo fix

Thanks for fixing the photo for the Rolls-Royce Phantom IV page. I have been trying to do that for some time and I have never succeeded

--Tempy1 (talk) 17:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Ferrari 458

take a look at the Ferrari 458 talk page, please. --Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:58, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

if unauthorized scans of manuals constitute WP:CV

I imagine it does, although you said it was discussed somewhere. I couldn't find it and I'm not sure, so I'm looking into it. Here's the discussion Cantaloupe2 (talk) 11:42, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Alfa article changes

Why pointless? The infoboxes I edited were far from the standard style and they did not have a similar look to those that you suggested. On the other hand, once a text is between brackets, I think there is no need for italic writing too. BaboneCar (talk) 16:10, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

You say there was nothing wrong, but they used bulleted lists for engines, paragraph breaks instead of line breaks and unnecessary bold formatting for transmissions, all of which are not seen in any car article infobox on Wikipedia. So while this is exactly what I try, to "make the articles have similar look", I see no point in your message. I rather expected you to notice these rarities and correct them, as you have also previously done changes to these articles. BaboneCar (talk) 16:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I didn't ask you to fix the changes I made. And I don't think you should revert my edits, because the infoboxes I edited are now pretty much in accordance with the conventions you mentioned, while the previous versions are not. The fact that there are different styles is not an argument for not following conventions. If I'll fix the other generations too it's up to me. However, if you wanted to be more convincing about it, my opinion is that you should adopt a friendlier tone. BaboneCar (talk) 17:28, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
I skip the long series of insults you have recently sent to me and recommend you to read the message posted on the Alfa Romeo 156 talk page, regarding the repeated links policy. BaboneCar (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Volvo 200 Series

Thank you for updating the table I contributed to the article Volvo 200 Series. It has been many years, but I noticed the difference right away.

I see there was an intermediate edit which narrowed the padding but also prevented the 1980 244/245 DL model information from rendering within the appropriate cell--it was an easy fix.

I imagine your overhaul to wikitable format was a bit more involved--rest assured it is a real improvement and it looks terrific.

--Patronanejo (talk) 11:13, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

New version of AWB

An updated version of AWB is now available here. Delsion23 (talk) 20:48, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Lada

It doesn't matter if the article titles are being changed. That is a navigation template for the Lada brand, not for the VAZ models. The model names you added are VAZ model names and not the Lada model names used in export markets, so they don't fit in a Lada timeline. BaboneCar (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Besides the fact that you still don't understand my explanation, the WikiProject conventions also seem to contradict what you claim. The references on the articles concerned contradict what you are saying too. You reverted my edits for the third time within 24 hours without having a solid reason for it. BaboneCar (talk) 17:11, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

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Merge discussion for BMW 315

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Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Formula_One#Test_and_Reserve_Drivers

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ID assistance

What am I?

Any clue what this might be? Seen in Turkey, fibreglass body (with custom front wing) and a Tofaş gear knob inside. Five-bolt wheels, for what it's worth.  Mr.choppers | ✎  18:02, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi i have no clue what it might be, can be very diffuclut to find it from web -->Typ932 T·C 12:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Looks very much like a modified Panther Kallista. Warren (talk) 13:32, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
While the hardtop looks a bit of a lash up, I wonder if the front spoiler is just a bad repair? Later Kallistas did have a strange spoiler - see here. Warren (talk) 13:42, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

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Alfa Romeo Arna

I'm confused by your edit on the Alfa Romeo Arna. You keep undoing the link to Nissan Motor Company, prefering a piped link to Nissan via the text "Nissan Jidōsha K.K.". You may not have noticed, but Nissan redirects to Nissan Motor Car, so perhaps you agree that Nissan was part of the joint venture, but I do not understand the need for "Nissan Jidōsha K.K.." Any reason why you can't accept the Nissan Motor Company in the lead? Here's a newspaper report for info. Warren (talk) 16:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

the Nissan Jidōsha K.K.. is the actual name of the Nissan company, its not invented by me but cant find the source at the moment. Whats wrong with that name? its even written in Nissan page. -->Typ932 T·C 18:19, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
As this is the English WP, what's wrong with a direct link to the Nissan WP article? Makes sense for English readers, and if they want to know more about Nissan, then as you say they can find out on the Nissan page. They even call themselves Nissan Motor Co. on their own website, so it seems a little pedantic to force the "Nissan Jidōsha K.K.." name, especially as the piped wikilink you keep changing is a redirect back to Nissan Motor Company... Warren (talk) 20:51, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Jeep Grand Cherokee

The entity responsible for the development of the vehicle has been the Jeep division of the American manufacturer Chrysler, as the lead itself says, in whatever particular names the latter had. Please accept this version of displaying the manufacturer name in the main infobox of the article. Also, please not that the wikiproject conventions also recommend the same style. Thank you. BaboneCar (talk) 17:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Which convention? and it should follow the same style of other Chrysler brands. If you change something do the all articles and dont pick articles from there from here. Its always the same story on ur edits. -->Typ932 T·C 18:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Fiat timeline

It is very large. When it is opened it covers almost the entire screen. It is more aesthetical to display it this way, rather than have the screen covered by the template at the bottom of each Fiat article. I hope you will understand my suggestion. Thank you. BaboneCar (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Alfa 156/166/159 production

This is the source for my research (so please revert Your edits)
http://www.bozhdynsky.com/alfa-147-156-166-gt-production-dates/

and Alfa does use model years (don't know where would You get the idea they don't)
ex: (MY stands for Model Year)
GTV
163.516.1.0 – GTV 3.2 V6 24V E3 LUSSO MY.2003

156
X1 156 M.Y.2002 BZ/DS (2001-2005)
116.074.3.0 BN 2.0 JTS 16V 165CV 121KW SELESP.-DISTINCTIVE-MY.2004

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X8 159 MY11 (2010-2011)
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Name of Ford Taunus

You might have an opinion on this: Talk:Ford Taunus P1

Regards Charles01 (talk) 07:14, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Typ932, I was wondering what your thoughts were on moving the Dodge Dart (2013) to Dodge Dart (PF) where PF refers to Chrysler's internal model code. VX1NG (talk) 19:50, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Due to your incessant reverts and/or unjustifiably instigating an edit war, see and comment only in WikiProjects Automobile without reverting the article further please. Asserting a right to edit the article and compromise it because it does not meet your preference is not productive, to say the least. CtrlXctrlV (talk) 12:51, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

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Please note that Category:2000s automobiles (see that page) is the parent cat of Category:Cars introduced in 2008. My edit summary made clear why the cat was removed. Items should be placed in the most specific category which is then nested within the parent. Please see WP:SUBCAT for more information. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

It does not matter that some car articles have been mis-categorised. Many car articles are in fact correctly placed in just the intro. year cat. It is WP:POINTY to refer to mistakes in other articles to justify your own opinion. It is quite clear that Cars introduced in year XXXX is a subcategory of the appropriate decade category (XXXX automobiles). Items are always placed in the most specific category per WP:SUBCAT as mentioned above. It is one of the first things I can recall being mentioned to me some years ago on starting editing. Please feel free to raise at the project page if you don't understand how the categorisation system works. Eagleash (talk) 05:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Funny? Are you being deliberately obtuse? It is completely wrong to say that all car articles are categorised in the way you suggest. It is something I look at some of the time if I read a car article. A goodly proportion are correctly categorised but some have both the year and decade categories (incorrect). As you say, it is quite simple; items should not be placed in both the subcat and parent cat. This is quite clear at WP:SUBCAT. If you have difficulty with this please feel free to raise it at WT:CAT or at the automobiles project talk page. Eagleash (talk) 07:44, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

This will also be my last comment: Yes the page Category:2000s automobiles says "Automobiles that were produced in the 2000s — from 2000 to 2009". BUT further down the page you will see listed out the sub-categories. Category:Cars introduced in 2008 is quite clearly listed as a subcat. Therefore, car articles listed in that category are not listed additionally in the parent category per WP:SUBCAT. By being in the subcat it becomes 'nested' in the parent cat. I would have thought you were an editor of long-enough standing and experience to understand the relationship between sub and parent cats. Eagleash (talk) 10:11, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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More chit-chat

One more thing: you may not care much for "rm chit-chat" as an edit summary, though I am glad to see it's taking on, but it's a lot more expressive than the automated summary generated by rollback and by Twinkle. And while I'm on that topic, this and this are unexplained, automated reverts of content edits that were obviously not vandalism--that's rollback abuse. See Wikipedia:Rollback#When_to_use_rollback. I'm not going to yank your chain anymore, but this (along with OR and WP:RS) is something you need to think about. You are of course free to use rollback in your own user space, to roll this back. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Ur edits looks like vandalism, when removing important content with edit explanation "chit chat", that central statue is important thing in Goodwood history, more important than that nonsense time list of hill climb -->Typ932 T·C 18:19, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
I don't know why you're writing in two places. No, my edits do not look like vandalism--at least not to someone who knows what they're doing. "Central statue"? I have no idea what you're talking about: the word "statue" doesn't even occur in the article. And I also don't know what you mean with "nonsense time list of hill climb"; I certainly did not put that in there. Why are you arguing this with me? Go edit the damn article properly, and remove what is unimportant, improperly verified, promotional, trivial, whatever. If you get your head on straight and look at the history you will see that I was only there because someone with a promotional user name was there. I blocked them. Then I removed chit-chat--meaningless chatter about some featured brand, full of pretty pictures and without a single proper reference. Again, "important thing in Goodwood history" means nothing without proper sourcing. This may be about cars, but it's still in an encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 18:24, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
Because not everybody follows others talk pages, you certainly have no idea what is important and whats not, there was over 20 cite references, thats not maybe enough for you, Ill still suggest you use article talk page before making such big removes with that bad explanations. >Typ932 T·C 18:36, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

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