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File page NFCC concerns tag

Hi. Following on from this discussion I've made a few changes to the template in its sandbox. It now accepts the timestamps as the second unnamed parameter (always remember to close with |~~~~~}} rather than just |}}, which caused the problems you had before), and uses this for the Month-Year category as well as the 7 days calculation (only adding categories when in the File: namespace). I've also tweaked the formatting, and given a link to the file uses section if no articles are given; feel free to alter this however you like. If the code seems ok to you, just copy it over from the sandbox (you only need to replace {{template sandbox notice}} at the bottom with {{documentation}}), and let me know if you have any problems.

I was also wondering why you were transcluding this template through your userspace (i.e. {{User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:File page NFCC concerns tag|}})? Finally, this is a community project and while some instances may violate fair use, others just need a word or two as rationale to allow us to use them (and in doing so can make the project much better); make sure to try to come up with a rationale before simply tagging a bunch of pictures! See you around. --xensyria^T 15:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

P.S. {{Di-no fair use rationale}} provides a similar functionality, including instructions to notify the uploader and in the relevant image captions; do we need both? --xensyria^T 16:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

My understanding is that {{Di-no fair use rationale}} is only for cases where a file does not have any rationale at all. The template I created is for cases where at least one rationale is lacking but a rationale might be present for another article. I pasted the code from the sandbox. Thank you for the changes to the template markup. Regarding your last point regarding adding a rationale before tagging, WP:NFCCE explicitly says it is the duty of the users who want to use non-free content to provide a rationale. If people think that should be changed, it can be discussed, but as long as WP:NFCC is policy, removing a use of a non-free file violating 10c is a valid step to perform. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 06:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help, and I agree or I wouldn't have done so; my point really was that there are two ways to solve a missing rationale, and trying to add one (especially on files that already have at least one existing rationale to start from) tends to be the more constructive. --xensyria^T 13:50, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Hypothetical types of stars

Dear Toshio Yamaguchi: It seems that your page Hypothetical types of stars is very similar to an existing article Hypothetical star. The recommendation from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomy is that you move any new information or references from the new article to the older article and then redirect your article title to that one so that there will only be one article. This makes sense to me, too. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:53, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Responded at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomy#Should Hypothetical types of stars be a list?. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 20:59, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

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 Resolved [1]

Hey

Just a note to let you know I haven't forgotten. My last final exam is on Thursday, so I'll be able to give you a full review on Friday or Saturday. Cheers! Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:42, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Cool, that's nice to hear. I wish you the best of luck for your exam. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 19:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Many thanks for your comment at the Wikipedia: Help Desk. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:31, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem, you're welcome. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 05:53, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Just in case you missed it...

I answered your question at VPT. I made a script to restore the orange message bar a day or two ago; I've been trying to get the word out, since so many people seem to miss it, but I keep feeling like I'm self-promoting. :) Anyway, as it says on VPT, the script is at User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/orangeBar.js; just put the line importScript("User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/orangeBar.js"); into your common.js page and you should be good to go. Cheers! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:02, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Yepp, I saw your reply at VPT and already installed it. It seems to work, as your message triggered the orange bar. Very cool. Thank you. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 20:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

A big thank you...

...for posting that scipt [2]. Best wishes to you, TMCk (talk) 22:34, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

No problem, you're welcome. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 23:54, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Hiding frame around an image

See Wikipedia:Help_desk#Hiding frame around an image for a better solution. --  Gadget850 ^talk 17:19, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

 Resolved

Nightcore

• User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Nightcore → Nightcore (move) – I want to move the page from my userspace into mainspace. I am unable to do so myself because the page is salted. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 07:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
• Page Nightcore is salted because 8 previous attempts to create a page Nightcore have been deleted because the music band Nightcore is not notable. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I will check whether possibly more sources exist to establish notability. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 16:01, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Hunting for embedded outlines

While you are reading or browsing Wikipedia articles, please...

...keep a lookout for outlines embedded in articles.

I've run across a number of these over the years. One example is the Outline of fencing, which used to be part of the fencing article.

If you know about or spot any structured general topics lists in articles, please let me know (on my talk page).

Another thing you might find are articles that are comprised mostly of lists (without "Outline of" or "List of" being in the article's title). If you come across any of these, please report them to me on my talk page. I'd sure like to take a look at them.

Happy hunting.

I look forward to "hearing" from you (on my talk page). Sincerely, The Transhumanist 08:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Wascana Desktop Developer

The article Wascana Desktop Developer has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not notable. This is not a product, just a bundle assembled for convenience. Eclipse is a notable IDE, but this just bundles it with some other components. As such I don't know if there's any particular notability standard for it but it falls far short of the GNG.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. JohnBlackburne^words_deeds 15:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Theo's Little Bot 20

You and I share similar concerns with the proposal for this bot. I find it appalling that this boat proposal went three weeks without any notification to WT:NFC in any form. Had Stefan2 not asked for that to be done, it might have been approved without WT:NFC hearing of it. But, it's worse than that. Such a bot that fundamentally undermines the mission of this project can not be authorized without direct community input on a forum that appears on Wikipedia:Centralized discussion. The bot approvals group has gone off the deep end on this one with virtually no consideration of the long term consequences of implementation of this bot. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:55, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I agree that this should have been advertised at WT:NFC. It's not that I would never support such a bot, but this would require a change to policy first. Otherwise, approving the bot and then saying something like: "Oh, well, we have a bot whose activity is not compliant with policy, so lets change policy to enable this bot to continue" would pretty much subvert the whole principal of decision making through consensus. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 05:14, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Dongbu Group Logo.png

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Dongbu Group Logo.png

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Talkback

Back at you :) Wikipedia:Help_desk#Alt_text_problem ~ R.T.G 01:07, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

This week's articles for improvement - 22 July 2013 to 28 July 2013

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Give Me a Ring Sometime

There are two non-free files. Should I remove two, one, or none? --George Ho (talk) 19:14, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Cheers cast 1982 bw.jpg should be removed for violating NFCC#8. That image is unnecessary, as the cast doesn't need to be portrayed in that section. File:Cheers premiere ad tv guide 1982.jpg is probably okay, as it is essentially the same as cover art and thus acceptable under WP:NFCI#1. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 20:56, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

You said that TV Guide ad is okay to use. I put that up for review. You can comment about it along with other promo ads. --George Ho (talk) 04:39, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Cast photos in Cheers seasons

There is more than one non-free image in certain season pages, like Cheers (season 1). Other than infobox images, which ones should be removed or kept? --George Ho (talk) 16:38, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Cheers cast with George Wendt.jpeg should be removed for violating NFCC#8. Showing the cast in that section using a non-free image is unnecessary. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 17:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

And Cheers (season 4) and Cheers (season 5)? --George Ho (talk) 00:09, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

File:Cheers cast Woody Frasier Diane.jpg should be removed from both articles. Again violating NFCC#8. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 11:56, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Re: Helpdesk

Toshio, thanks for your help HERE. I believe I've interpreted your meaning correctly. --Yoda of Borg (talk) 19:09, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I see in this edit you changed the broken link to a working one. It might be worth keeping the archived link as well as |archiveurl=http://web.archive.org/web/20120218034033/http://www.lackland.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070324-002.pdf |archivedate=18 Feb 2012. The archived link is an archive of the original URL, which is now dead and the Wayback Machine doesn't have an archive of the currently working link. I don't know whether usually an archived version of a link is kept that is dead, but where another working version still exists. I personally would add http://www.jbsa.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070324-002.pdf as the url parameter and http://web.archive.org/web/20120218034033/http://www.lackland.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070324-002.pdf as the archiveurl parameter. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 19:38, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Sanzhi Ufo Houses.jpg)

Thanks for uploading File:Sanzhi Ufo Houses.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox distributed computing project 2

Template:Infobox distributed computing project 2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. eh bien mon prince (talk) 09:49, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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Script issues

The servers are being weird right now. I'm pretty sure I fixed everything with the script, but there might be issues with javascript loading old versions of the script or not loading the script it at all intermittently. I'll be testing this later today, when the server issues will hopefully be cleared up, and confirm that my changes are acting as expected. equazcion → 14:35, 12 Nov 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the heads up, I appreciate it. I'll let you know if I run into any issues. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 20:25, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Classes of natural numbers

I think {{Classes of natural numbers}} is getting too big. I suggest splitting out {{Figurate numbers}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:31, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

While I agree that the template is relatively big, I would like to keep the two templates at least connected in some way. In order to reduce the 'visual' size when the template is uncollapsed, the section listing the figurate numbers could be made collapsible by wrapping the content into some kind of collapsible template or the whole number classes template could be changed to use {{Navbox with collapsible groups}}. Another option is of course to simply link {{Figurate numbers}} in the figurate numbers section in {{Classes of natural numbers}} per your suggestion. Which do you prefer? -- Toshio Yamaguchi 14:11, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

We could do {{Classes of natural numbers/sandbox}} but if we make a subgroup then why stop there and not include {{Divisor classes}} and {{Prime number classes}} as subgroups? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:42, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Including {{Prime number classes}} would result in a number of double entries, however. This could be resolved by moving entries such as Fermat number to the better fitting category, of course (for example, removing it from {{Prime number classes}} and just leaving it in {{Classes of natural numbers}}). I think the prime number classes subgroup should only contain those classes, where all numbers are prime (for example it would include classes like super-prime, but not, say, Cullen number). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 15:37, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Actually after a second thought merging both templates into a single one might be the best option, though I think we should decide on some criteria for grouping the entries (for example I think the name Possessing a specific set of other numbers I specified in {{Classes of natural numbers}} is not a very good name for a subgroup). In my opinion we should create a new template and first define an appropriate set of subgroups/categories and then add all entries from {{Classes of natural numbers}} and {{Prime number classes}} to it. I know this will result in a large navbox and your original rationale for the split is the size of the navbox. However, is a large navbox inherently problematic? I assume {{Navbox with collapsible groups}} exists in part for such cases. It could be designed such that the categories/subgroups are visible when uncollapsing the navbox, but the entries are initially collapsed. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 22:10, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

RE: Nightcore

Hi, thank you replying me. I think nightcore can't make it to wiki too (5 years later maybe?) Anyway, I found an alternative. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nightcore/ But the editorship in KYM is actually quite autocracy, only I am editing so far. Would you like to join editing? There are too much stuff to be added. Maybe we can move it to wikia so more people can join improving it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HKO2006 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Bot to detect WP:NFCCP#10c failures?

Hi, I was hoping that you would have contributed to Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Archive/2013/December#Bot to detect WP:NFCCP#10c failures? but it got archived.

Is such a bot possible? Besides the issue that I raised on that thread, it should also detect cases where a page is moved but the FURs are left alone. I've recently made this fix - the page was moved more than two months ago and the redirect was repurposed the following day, yet the consequent WP:NFCCP#10c failure went undetected until today, when I was checking the image to see if this edit satisfied WP:NFCCP#10c (it didn't). --Redrose64 (talk) 19:56, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Well, as ww2censor said, I thought about such a bot as well (see discussions here, here, here, here and here). I think it would be technically possible if there is someone who can and wants to code such a bot (I don't know whether I could do it myself, I can program myself, but mainly in C++ and I am not sure whether that language is the best choice to code a bot or not. I think many bots on Wikipedia are written in Python, but I am not experienced in writing Python code). -- Toshio Yamaguchi 09:34, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Do you think I should send it to WP:BOTREQ then? --Redrose64 (talk) 13:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Sure, I'd be more than happy if someone over there took up the request. -- Toshio Yamaguchi 21:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement

File:Oseberg ship head post.jpg An animal-head post found in the Oseberg vikingship, an example of Nordic art Hello, Toshio Yamaguchi. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Nordic art Previous selections: Gopher (animal) • Meal Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: Evad37 [talk] 01:07, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement

The Low Countries as seen from space Hello, Toshio Yamaguchi. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Low Countries Previous selections: Nordic art • Gopher (animal) Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Evad37 (talk) 01:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC) •

This week's article for improvement (week 6, 2014)

The life sciences involve the study of living organisms Hello, Toshio Yamaguchi. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Life sciences Previous selections: Low Countries • Nordic art Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Evad37 (talk) 02:33, 3 February 2014 (UTC) •

This week's article for improvement (week 7, 2014)

This staircase is an impossible object Hello, Toshio Yamaguchi. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Impossible object Previous selections: Life sciences • Low Countries Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Evad37 (talk) 01:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC) •

This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2014)

Model of a German SAR-Lupe reconnaissance satellite inside a Cosmos-3M rocket Hello, Toshio Yamaguchi. The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection: Reconnaissance satellite Previous selections: Impossible object • Life sciences Get involved with the TAFI project! You can... Nominate an article Review nominations Have your say in future selections Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Evad37 (talk) 16:22, 17 February 2014 (UTC) •

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