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Mistaken identity & associated revert and userpage edit

Heya Tony,

You reverted one of my changes, stating that the source refers to a different issue. Additionally, you said that I had a TWC IP, thus resulting in a conflict of interest. Additionally, you added a corporate IP template to my non-corporate IP userpage.

So, to clarify: The latter two items would only be applicable to IPs actually used by Time Warner Cable, not those provided by Time Warner Cable. The difference being, TWC is a company that sells individual consumers internet service, and I am one of those consumers. Your criteria would result in nobody being able to edit this page, since they all do so using internet service, which would necessarily be provided by an internet service provider. Please be more diligent in your research before making these sorts of accusations in the future.

As for the former item: In the source I provided, what regulations are Rep. Blackburn referring to, if not the net neutrality regulations passed by the FCC?

Thanks! 173.173.64.117 (talk) 04:57, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

@173.173.64.117: Hi, thank you for leaving a message.

1. The source you used indeed refers to a different issue. In the article, it was stated that:

“Once the federal government establishes a foothold into managing how Internet service providers run their networks they will essentially be deciding which content goes first, second, third, or not at all," Blackburn said in an announcement yesterday. "My legislation will put the brakes on this FCC overreach and protect our innovators from these job-killing regulations.”

It was referring to government control of the Internet, not net neutrality, as net neutrality inherently does not allow anyone to determine "which content goes first, second, third, or not at all." Thus, it is not an argument against net neutrality, but against government control and rules by the FCC.

The opponents of net neutrality argue that the FCC's net neutrality regulations ARE de-facto control of the internet. Whether this is truthful or not is beside the point -- they argue that net neutrality = government controls the internet = all manner of horrible catastrophes. Your argument that the two are different is WP:OR, and irrelevant, because opponents do not see it this way, and our job is to accurately represent viewpoints and statements.

Similarly, many conspiracy theorists spout all kinds of nonsense [1][2] which is obviously incorrect. Wikipedia often reports on the claims on both sides, and then disprove the allegations using reliable sources. You have concluded that Rep. Blackburn's statements are incorrect, and I'm sure that you'll have no problem finding a reliable source to that effect. Simply deleting well-sourced opinions because you think those opinions are wrong is not how Wikipedia works. 173.173.64.117 (talk) 16:29, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

2. About your IP address: Multiple tools showed that your Internet connection is not simply provided by Time Warner Cable. Your IP address is registered to "United States Dallas Time Warner Cable Internet LLC". So both the ISP and Organization showed up as "Time Warner Cable", whereas if you are simply a user of the ISP the organization wouldn't show up that way. That's why I put the template on your talk page.

Thanks, Tony Tan⁹⁸ · talk 12:07, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Can you please give an example of what a TWC subscriber's whois would look like, and how it would differ? 173.173.64.117 (talk) 16:20, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Please insert my edit which you deleted because of unconfirmed sources.

Howard Hughes was trying to setup a date through his scout with my ex mother in law in the the 30s. Columbia law school admitted women starting in 1927. Hughes didnt just pursue women in hollywood. He was always searching for looks and brains in NYC. The columbia law school graduate who was my ex-mother in law is a prominent member of the NY state bar association. <This story was told to me personally by Mrs. H. Mound.> She is too elderly to confirm today. She refused to date him and subsequently married another columbia law school graduate.Maddybcd (talk) 17:26, 28 March 2015 (UTC) Maddybcd (talk) 17:17, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

@Maddybcd: Hi, thanks for leaving a message! Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, we have a verifiability policy that requires all facts to be backed up by reliable sources. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles, so unpublished personal accounts are not sufficient. I am sure that you are trying to help out by adding information, but your information is unfortunately not backed up by reliable third party sources. If you could find a book, journal, newspaper, or an online news source that can support the information, then we can add back what you wrote. For more help, please see the guide for citing sources or come to the new contributors' help page. Thank you, and good luck! Tony Tan⁹⁸ · talk 19:05, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thanks for the notes you left for me. Don't know if you like pie, but this is a sugar and guilt free one. Becksguy (talk) 16:59, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the pie, Becksguy! Tony Tan⁹⁸ · talk 17:43, 29 March 2015 (UTC)