User talk:Tomica/Archive 5

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Did you know...

... that "Shut Up And Drive" has been used in CSI? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:42, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I didn't had an idea! Can you find source or something? — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 10:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Trying. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:14, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone care if a song was played in a TV program? Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 12:04, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it has to be added to the article. See "Single Ladies". Clever FAC reviewers ask if the song was ever use in any media. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:09, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

What does it add to the article? I can understand covers of songs on X Factor for example, but not a quick clip played on a TV program. Plus, with songs like SUAD, it will be so hard find to find sources. It's not Single Ladies. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 12:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Calvin, what do you mean by It's not Single Ladies? Do you think i just snapped my fingers and found those sources for "Single Ladies"? Jivesh1205 (Talk)

Jivesh, I mean't that Single Ladies is different because of it's impact, it's more well known and if something happens concerning it, it is more likely to be reported on. I personally have never heard Shut Up and Drive in a TV program. I've heard S&M used a lot, but it's never been reported on. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 12:32, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

It is easy to find sources but i assure that it is not easy to find reliable ones. See the first and second FAC of SL and you will realize why it failed twice. As i have told countless times before, i filter at least 30 search pages to get a source accepted by Wikipedia. Do the same and i am sure that you will find something about S&M. I heard "Rehab" in CSI yesterday and that's why i told Tom. And Calvin, even S&M had an impact with its controversial video. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:37, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Lol, S&M has not had the same impact as Single Ladies. Two completely different leagues. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 12:41, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Jealousy Jivesh... Jealousy is around us... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 12:42, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Well Calvin, i think you are right but you know that controversy also makes a song popular but yes, not to the point of making celebrities wanting to cover it. Both of you, let's keep it cute. Do not fight. Please. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:45, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Are you actually being serious Tomica? Lol. I think it's the other way around. I was talking with Jivesh and now you have come and provoked a reaction off of me. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 12:48, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Please let's stop here. Tommy and Calvin. we are ALL friends. Please stay calm. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:50, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Actually this is what turned me on... And not SUAD and SL and S&M ... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 12:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

And? I'm perfectly justified. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 12:53, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Now WAIT. How come what you did is justified Calvin? Please explain. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

No, you are perfectly selfish and your stucking your nose in every single place where I edit or make some effort. You know, if it was reverse even though If I knew you weren't right... I would never do such stupid things — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 12:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Sandy asked me if there was anything I wanted to be explained, so I've asked her. I've written my concerns, and believe me, I could have written more. That review is becoming far too personal with regard to reviewers, or should I say, level of personal input by certain reviewers. And Tomica, I tried helping you with some things on Shut Up and Drive because it was under prepared, and you took it as an offense. That's why I haven't bothered since. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 12:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I can't see anywhere Sandy asked you. It's obvious that you opened a new section, said hello and mashed up my things. Calvin, this is not that personally bothers you okay? If Sandy has something to comment, she would just take to comment... It's obvious this is jealousy and is so sad... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 13:03, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, she did, not that I have to explain to you. Tomica, jealousy has nothing to do with it. Why would I be jealous of you? What is there to be jealous of? I think you've got it a bit twisted. It's the principle of it and I don't like double standards. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 13:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Even though she asked you, she probably did for S&M and not for Rehab. But, I am like 90 percent not true in what are you talking. What are you doing hurts me a lot and I can have my mouth shut ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 13:09, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

No, it wasn't about S&M, I think I know what I'm talking about Tomica. I don't like double standards and I feel like they are being implemented in this case. As I've said a billion times before, this is not about you. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 13:13, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you only have double standards when I am in question and that's obvious. So stop it! At least don't lie to me... I have double faced people ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 13:16, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh don't be ridiculous. I've said to Sandy before about other FACs. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 13:21, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I am sure you did ... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 22:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Are you calling me a liar? Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 22:53, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

You take it like that? Mmm, fine than ... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 22:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Well how else did you intend it? There is only one way to read that, and that's the way I read it. I don't have time for this. It's juvenile and immature. Let's just forget about it. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 23:02, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Actually your behavior is immature, but okay, anyway you always forgot, and then remember... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 23:05, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

FULL STOP. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:59, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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Come on guys, you've evidently worked well with each other in the past; don't let a simple misunderstanding cause you to work against each other. Collaboration is the name of the game; and while we may not always agree with points brought up by other editors, they are still worth taking under consideration.

Now to get to my point of business, I was browsing this talk page after posting on the "Rehab" FAC. To answer a few questions/points raised at the top of this section, the use of songs in television programs or commercials can definitely be integrated into an article; it all depends on how you do it. I would argue that including such information, an example of the song's legacy, is no different than reporting on multiple cover versions of the song. Such use helps to establish the song's notability because popular culture is such a massive phenomenom and it reaches millions of people. Because of this, putting that information into the Legacy section of an article (or if the article does not have one, under Critical reception) shows it's long-term durability with the public. "City of Blinding Lights" is the best example I can think of. If it is used in a program or commercial just prior to or at the time of release, putting that information in the Promotion section is fantastic (such as the iPod commercial for "Vertigo". To source it... just use the program itself! There is no better way to say that X song appeared in Y episode than to use the episode as the citation. {{cite video}} works wonders for that. There is no shame in integrating information on usage in popular culture into an article; it just depends on how you do it.

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Take care. Melicans (talk, contributions) 03:14, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Hahahaahah. You are funny. Thanks for the delicious trout and chips:P ahaha. Out of the joke, thanks for the advices here. They were really needed. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 09:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Page stalkers - Do you eventually have Esmee Denters' Outta Here digital booklet?

Hello to everyone. I need a favor from you. In some/any case, someone from you, do you have Esmee Denters' Outta Here digital booklet, or maybe there is a way he/she could find it. I really need it, cause I am nearly sure that "Rehab" was sampled into one of the songs from the album. I would be grateful to everyone who can help me here. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

If you haven't already, try asking on the talk page of that article. Or ask the editor(s) who have made the most edits to that article. I only recently learned how to do that. Click the View history tag and then the Contributors link. That shows you who has edited the article, ordered by the number of edits they have made. Here is the link direct for Outta Here, but you can use that method above for any article. Melicans (talk, contributions) 03:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Melicans. I wrote on the article's talk page and also asked Lil-Unique, since his contributions were biggest. However, I think it will take some time for him to respond. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 09:35, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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Esmee Denters

Me, me me, I have it. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:04, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Really? Can you tell me If "Rehab" was sampled in "Gravity" according to the digital booklet?:) — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:16, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't see any mention of Rihanna in the booklet though, not in any other songs too. :S — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Previously there was information in "Rehab" (added by some other user) that Esmee Denters sampled "Rehab" in her song "Gravity". Also, Jivesh found this, but it was told that the source is unreliable for featured articles. However, in the end it was misunderstanding obviously! Are you good at older finding sources? Cause I am awful in that... I would be grateful If you can find some sources for Rehab made covers. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 09:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Can you explain what exactly you want me to find? I did not get you. Ping me at my talk page. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

My Sincere Wishes For This Festive Season

		★★★★★★★★ Merry Christmas And Happy New Year 2012 ★★★★★★★★
		I Wish You And Your Family A Merry Christmas And A Happy New Year 2012. May The New Year Bring Much Happiness, Prosperity, Peace, And Success In Your Life. I Am Very Happy To be Part of Wikipedia And To Have Great Friends Like You. Cheers. - From A Big Fan of ----> Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank You Jivesh, you are clearly her biggest fan ;) LOL. And thanks for the good wishes, hard year is coming for me, I will need all this. May you and your family also have a bless and health upcoming year :). Thank You again friend... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 16:33, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome. And thank you. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't want a lot for Christmas...

There is just one thing I need... I don't care about the presents underneath the christmas three... Happy holidays, dear friend. I only wish you good things at this special season and time of the year. May you and your family have a really great time. Hugs and kisses from your Wiki-friend (and big fan) - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 23:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC).

Thank You Saulo. May you and your family enjoy in the same wishes. Merry Christmas and Happy New Yeah ;) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 09:16, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

GA Help

Hello, Tomica. Happy Holidays. I have a question that may seem silly, but i cannot find information elsewhere. When I nominate an article, do I work on making it better and then nominating it, or do I nominate it, have someone review it, and then work on it using their suggestions? Thanks Ben•TalkThatTalk2me 00:27, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Ben. Happy Holidays also to you and your family. Don't worry, you are new and there is nothing wrong with that. I have made the same mistake when I nominated Only Girl (In the World) without improving it, so that equaled a quick fail. You should definitely improve the article's body (text) and the references and then you can nominate it for GA. The reviewer will later tell you the minor issues so you can fix them. You understood I think... Right?:) — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 13:10, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Make it as best as your possibly can, then nominate, then a reviewer will tear it apart! haha. But yeah, edit + improve, then nominate. Or you can list for a Peer Review first? Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:14, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, i think I will do the PR. I think there is not much work to be done, but then again, I've been observing other reviews and it's probably safe to say that there is much to be done. Thanks and i have another question. in Don't Stop the Music, there are two articles fused into one. the cover song is the second part. do i have to improve that, too? because I have absolutely no clue about who that artist is. Thanks, and i am getting a new computer because ours is so slow. Therefor i probably will not be able to see your replie(s)until Christmas, when i will b at my Grandma's house for the holiday. unless you reply quickly, that is. Thank you both for your help! Ben•TalkThatTalk2me 15:51, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It may not look like it needs work, but it does. And yes you have to improved the section of the artist who covered it too. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:53, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, There are a lot of places where sources are needed. There is a whole section without sources! I will work MUCH on it after the holidays. Ben•TalkThatTalk2me 16:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Since the first FAC, I've always had a feeling "Rehab (Rihanna song)" would eventually be a featured article. And now, it has! Congrats buddy! It's a special day for both you and Jivesh! —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 11:14, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

"Umbrella"'s next, eh? —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 11:15, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Heartiest congrats Tomica!!! Well, well, its time to rub it off :P Amazing job dude. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations my dearest friend. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:32, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Guys, thank you so much, this is one of the happiest day for me in my recent period :D... Thanks for your beautiful comments and the award also Penguin. I am so happy for Jivesh too and for Wikiproject Rihanna also. It got its first featured article :D ! Damn good feeling. Umbrella here WE come :D ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 13:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

No problem. GimmeBot should update the FAC and place the bronze star on the page soon enough. ;) —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 14:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Trust me Penguin I cannot wait to see that bronze star on the top of the page! :D THANKS ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:23, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Only a few hours left. :-) Lol, I've got to get to work for my first FAC soon. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 14:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

You ARE working. And as far you are doing great "LTWYL" and it will very soon be a FA. I am sure it will. The feeling is great. Ouu yeah it is :D ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:29, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. It's my New Year's resolution. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 14:30, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

A perfect shot for a perfect time. :D — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:33, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Very nice WP. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 14:33, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Rihanna Award
	For making "Rehab (Rihanna song)" an FA and everything else you do for RiRi. Nice job. :) My love is love (talk) 17:47, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations. Sorry I didn't comment on the FAC as I promised. Anyway, Rihanna should be proud to have you here on Wiki. And Merry Christmas to you and your family. My love is love (talk) 17:51, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks My love is love. I hate that I don't know your real name.:) Thanks for the award it means very much to me. And yeah I also wish Rihanna could see her first FA here. And don't worry about not commenting, I am sure you were with limited time. Cheers :) — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 20:38, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks and Merry Christmas to you too again. I don't like telling my real name here on Wikipedia, but if you want to, I can tell it you. My love is love (talk) 20:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

hAH :) Yeah I would like too. Just write on my Macedonian talkpage. And btw have you heard about the project that is going to happen there? Kiril wrote something on my page, maybe he also did on yours too. We could work together, If you are free of course. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 21:00, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome and thanks. You are my friend and I will always remember you on special occasions. :)) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 21:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Same here :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 21:13, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I wanna hug you. Lol. A brotherly one, not the other.... Lol. :P Jivesh1205 (Talk) 21:18, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Hahaha... yeah we understand each other. We only use brother ones ;) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 21:19, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I would be very happy to have a bro like you in real life. *weeps* Jivesh1205 (Talk) 21:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Trust me. I share the same opinion. Such good having you and other Wikipedian friends/brothers/sisters in life :)! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 21:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I've read it right now. But I'm planning to finish 21 and then permanently leave Wikipedia. And my name is Darko. My love is love (talk) 21:38, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why are you leaving? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 21:40, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Hahahahaha. Not this Wikipedia. I meant the Macedonian one. Lol. My love is love (talk) 21:43, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I broke my calculator because of this news. Lol. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 21:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Hahahaa Jivesh, pls calm down :) ! Well okay then, I am also thinking about participating in the project. But I will see. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 21:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Wow, this is really good! Tomica, when are you starting work on "ella ella elaa"? —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 22:37, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the article looks pretty good. Bravo for Darko. And Penguin, I will start improving the article right after Monday, but I don't know when I will nominate for FA. It will probably be in the first quarter of 2012. I first have to go on Rehab from this FAC :)! Lol, trust me it was a sweet torture !— Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 22:50, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

LOL. Perfect time. It's pretty rainy during that time of year where I live. :D —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 22:55, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Haha, here the same. You are from Canada right? I have been there. A wonderful country. One day maybe I will move there. :) — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 22:57, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

It is, despite all the scrutiny it gets from Americans. ;-) —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 23:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Congrats Buddy! :) — Status {^talk_contribs 18:31, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Status. Wish you luck with Jennifer Lopez filmography. And don't forget we should work on Shakira discography ;) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 21:40, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Do you realise

you just crossed the 3 revert rule? And your case of WP:OWN is overwhelming. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:36, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I did and you didn't? Don't be ridiculous. And that sentence is not even MINE! Stfg added and NOBODY complained about it at the FAC. It's just you and your stupid fix ideas! The article is a featured one and I want to keep the sentence. OkaY? I want ! Just stop !— Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:40, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I've stayed within the 3 reverts, even if you think you are right, you should never go beyond making 3 reverts, ever. Do you really think "it calls for a vocal range" sounds anywhere remotely encyclopedic? What is it calling for??!?!?!? It sounds and reads ridiculous. So are you never going to let anyone else edit the article now? WP:OWN. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:42, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I never said I wouldn't let anyone to make edits to the article. I will make users who make rationale edits and not POV edits. Calvin, please stop be silly and just let go. Okay? Thanks — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:46, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

In this point, surprisingly, Calvin is right Tom. His change made the sentence better. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:48, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I really don't think the sentence should be changed. That was concluded by me and Stfg while the article was c/e. But If it should have to be changed let it be. I am not making war here only for one sentence. But what it really bothers was the super idiotic edit by him that I saw earlier this morning. He could just point me and explained me. Or even better talk with the copy-editor. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:51, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

What super-idiotic edit? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:52, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't even matter Tomica. You listen to other people and not me even when I am right. You have said before how you don't like it when I help you. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

This one... And the main problem is that you are not helping me, but making like you always have the right, you are detracting my edits, my GA nominations, even my GA reviews. And that's not really normal ! At all. And what is interesting you only do that with ME ! And I am freaking bothered with it! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:57, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I was helping you on Shut Up and Drive because you had missed vital things and made several mistakes as you rush edited it for GAN. And you specifically told me not to give you "tips", even though you made them anyway, which shows I was right. Wikipedia is supposed to be collaborative. And what do you mean by "detracting"??? Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:59, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Come on don't be ridiculous. The article was going for GAN. The reviewer would helped me with everything. You also "helped" with "Disturbia". In one of the reviews after I reviewed the article, you said that has also other issues, indeed maybe had, but you are only behind MY back, behind every my freaking edit and I am pretty sure that you woke up with my contributions. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Look at Rehab FAC. I raised concerns about that sentence but the copy-editor said it is right. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:01, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

See? I wasn't the only one Tomica. And yeah of course the copy editor will say he is right lol, he wrote it. And yes, because we both edit Rihanna articles, I look out for all of them. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:03, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I see. But, obviously it was forgotten somewhere in the text. Anyway, Jivesh used a more rationale way of talking than you. And btw you think that you own Rihanna articles, and obviously I will prove that is not true ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:05, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes and I said that the copy-editor said it is right. So I think it should be. :)) Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:07, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I changed it, cause I am not a stupid little baby who is crying about one sentence and also I am not here to make war, but contribute and hang out with people, but obviously some people here just want to ruin your Wiki life. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

You think I own Rihanna articles? Really? I've never done what you just did on Rehab. And why on earth did you just make a fifth revert? Couldn't you have just copied and pasted what I wrote? I can't believe you just made a fifth revert on Rehab. I don't know what has happened between us Tomica. We just conflict all the time. And why should I have to come here first to ask you permission to change one sentence? I don't have to. If I want to make an edit, then I will, especially when I am right. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:13, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

It pains me to see two (ex-?) best wiki-friends fighting like this. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:18, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I made a fifth revert cause I was too lazy to c/e YOUR sentence. I am sorry? Would you ever be able to forgive about that?! Anyway, you are a saint here right? So you never made this kind of edits... bla bla, don't listen to such things. And If you don't mind to come here and ask me this will happen all the way. And If you are so good and want everything the best for the Project you could at least congratulate to me and Jivesh about the FA's. But, obviously its a double face. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:20, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

What???? I said about the 5th revert because you have now made 2 more than you are supposed to, which means you could be blocked for it, that is what the warning says below. And yes, well done for making Rehab an FA, even though I don't think it is FA worthy at all. If Rehab can pass, then there is no reason why S&M can't. So clearly, I am not two-faced. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:27, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

I don't want a congratulations like this. Well you think, but other reviewers don;t share your opinion and neither me also. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:30, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011

Your recent editing history at Rehab (Rihanna song) shows that you are in danger of breaking the three-revert rule, or that you may have already broken it. An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Breaking the three-revert rule often leads to a block.

If you wish to avoid being blocked, instead of reverting, please use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. You may still be blocked for edit warring even if you do not exceed the technical limit of the three-revert rule if your behavior indicates that you intend to continue to revert repeatedly. Sorry Tomica, but both of you are indeed beyond the limit, please cease editing on the article altogether. This is for your own good only. Don't be baited by such things. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:45, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay Lego. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:47, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	Seasons Greetings
	Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Apologies, slight technical problem in the Christmas Cheer Distribution Network Automated Felicitations System (no electricity) meant a small delay in getting my greetings out this year ... Chaosdruid (talk) 17:00, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :)

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No problem Ben :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 22:03, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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I'd

like to do Unfaithful please. I want to promote the A Girl Like Me articles to Good Article Topic, and I don't think I can do so if you do one. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:47, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, we had a deal, and I am doing Unfaithful. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:49, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

We never had a deal. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:51, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Right? We hadn't? Well also I don't have a reason to ask somebody on what I want to work. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

No, we didn't. I never accepted a deal on this. To be honest, I am mean't to be doing Talk That Talk (song), which is something we agreed on but you went back on. Additionally, you haven't touched Unfaithful in months. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 14:56, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Because I also have real life mister Calvin. I am studying Economics, that's probably quite demanding, so I had to study. But, now I have free January and I will do "Unfaithful". — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:00, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll do Talk That Talk then. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:01, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

What? You did We Found Love and You da One. I kicked my ass sorting information for Talk That Talk and you will do it? haha We gonna see that. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:19, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, you did go back on what we made a deal on. TTT for Unfaithful. Let's play Russian Roulette. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:24, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

NO ! Okay?... I let you do the Music of the Sun articles, but I am not gonna let do all the A Girl Like Me. Fullstop. And I am also doing "Talk That Talk", since I already started doing it. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:26, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

You let me do the Music of the Sun articles? You never said you wanted to do either of them. Why? I can't promote Loud as a Good Article Topic as you did What's My Name? And I'm telling you now, I am doing SOS and Break It Off. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:29, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Sure I am alright with that. And I am doing "Unfaithful" and A Girl Like Me. Then maybe If you want we can do a collaborative nomination. Ooops I forgot you hate that :S ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:32, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

We had already agreed to do A Girl Like Me together. That was the deal. You do the third and fourth singles from TTT and we do AGLM, GGGB and Rated R as joints. No, you're right, I hate doing doing nominations, but I'm not going back on what I agreed to do. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 15:33, 27 December 2011 (UTC) And this says you are only doing the Composition section of Unfaithful. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn}

I am doing the whole article. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Once again, going back on what we agreed on, again. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 13:45, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

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Yes, I'm here. Like the Carpathia, I'm ready to help, if it's not too late. I expected broken tables or something, but when I look at Unfaithful (song), everything looks pretty good. Did you take care of the problem already? What do you need me to do? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I think I'm done. It took longer than it should have because I was locked in mortal combat with MTV's web site.

I could not find verification of a chart appearance on Canada, although if it was really #1, there ought to be something, somewhere. I also could not verify the German end-of-year position, because the MTV sites redirect me to my local site, whether I like it or not. Since I don't live in Germany, I can never view their site. Everything else should be okay now, though, include the full reference citations for all the certs. Hope you like it. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 01:01, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sure I like it a lot. I found this, but I can't find there the official Canadian Singles Chart. Can I use some of the Canadian sub-singles chart, like Digital Songs? You have to note that before June 2007 it wasn't Canadian Hot 100, but Canadian Singles Chart. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 01:05, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Ooh, ouch, no idea about old Canadian charts. Well, I think I would just say Canada (Canadian Singles Chart) in the table and provide the AllMusic ref without any singlechart template. I can do that for you if you need me to, but I figure that little bit is no problem for you, eh? If you have more questions about specific old charts (or Canadian charts) try User:Kww or (especially) User:Ericorbit. I think Eric has experience with Canadian Country music charts. Or maybe there's a third guy I can't remember. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 01:18, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, but the problem with the Allmusic reference is that it doesn't contain the main Canadian Singles Chart, instead there are some sub-charts like Canadian Digital Singles. Okay, nevermind, thanks for your suggestions. I will probably get through :) ! Thanks again, very much... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 01:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

My Top 20 of 2011, by Tomica

Recently I have seen users that countdown their favorite singles of 2011. I was bored so I also decided to do that. I hope you like my top 20 list that looks like this:

Enjoy my list. Happy New Year to everybody :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 19:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Try this. I ma surprised to see BTINH so low when I think that it was your favorite song for months. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:50, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Jivesh. I will see what can I get from here. And about BTINH, well to be honest, this is like looks my top 20, but this song is very close to me and I like it a lot, no mather on which place is here :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 10:29, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

:( ^^^ Anyway, it can be used for GA but I have serious doubts for FA. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:43, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It's okay, since I don't want to take it to FA in near future. However, from the google search that you gave me, I only found this. It seems that there is no source about "Unfaithful" video, I found only one when it premiered, but I am pretty sure is not reliable. Ahh ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 10:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Are you joking? It's full of sources. Saw this? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 10:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Haha this was the source I was talking about. And what with this? From here I can only use that it premiered on May 5, 2006, it hit TRL at number one and was directed by Mandler. Where, when shot? ... :S — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 11:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It already much. I guess the source that was in the article previously did not cite all these. :P I can see no reviews. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 11:11, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

At my sweet home. :P And you? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:54, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Hehe, and why like that? I am celebrating in one club with some friends. It's gonna be The Hangover hhaha :) !

Well you know how my parents are. Pfffffffff. What's the time there? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:03, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

14:07 ! :) In Mauritius ? — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 13:07, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

17:09. Lol. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:09, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

LOL, we are three hours difference, and you gonna met the New Year faster than me :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 13:12, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Yepsss. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 13:32, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Top 10 (or more) Rihanna songs of all-time!

What is your list of these, Tomica? Best, --Discographer (talk) 14:43, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Ahh Discog, thanks for asking, but very hard choice. But I will try, however I will have 3 songs on my first place:) LOL!

Only Girl (In the World)/We Found Love/Take a Bow (the first song makes my energy go to 100, the second one is so powerful, and the third one is epic)
Umbrella
What's My Name?
Don't Stop the Music
Rehab
Unfaithful
Russian Roulette
Hate That I Love You
Pon de Replay
Talk That Talk

This could go by, but I am not sure, I have also other and other favorites, I am pretty sure I forgot some songs xD, what about your list? I burn to know it... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 14:50, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Lol. TTT is not in your 2011 list? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 14:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Well for my Top 20 in 2011 I was trying to seek only OFFICIAL singles, however "Dance for You" was inclusion, but I love that song you know :D Lol ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:00, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Did you know that she was 5 months pregnant in it? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 15:02, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

For my song list, I somewhat agree, though I'm more interested in her looks! I like your choice of hairstyles, which I must say is her best look! Best, --Discographer (talk) 15:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

"DSTM" needs to be higher up in that ladder. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 15:09, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

LOL Jivesh, I didn't had idea for that, that woman surprises a lot :) ! And also happy that you agree with me Discog, she was such a honey when was like that, I want her next album to be in that style and contain songs with more mature tone fullfiled with powerful live performances. :) Anyway, I also want to hear you three your Rihanna Top 10 songs of all time. And yeah, maybe you are right Penguin, I am not so sure though. :)— Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:11, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, this is her ♥ as a goddess!! Best, --Discographer (talk) 15:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I am pretty sure this is 2005 a Music of the Sun era, she was like honey and milk ! And what about this? :D Ahhh — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Seductively sensual! Best, --Discographer (talk) 15:22, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

This image (hey, baby girl, drop me a line - xxx) is quite good, too, always nice to see some skin! Best, --Discographer (talk) 15:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I like it. She is sweet. But here is sexy and nasty :) and I also like that. She is a Diva ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:33, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd rip that off her body and get real nasty!!! Best, --Discographer (talk) 15:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Me Too Discog. Ooops and here goes censorship :P. Just kidding. Happy New Year to you and everybody, have a great night everybody (just be careful of hangovers) xD ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 15:38, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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	Wishing you nothing but the best in 2012. Happy new year and God bless you! Ben•TalkThatTalk2me 01:36, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank You Ben. May also 2012 be very happy and pleased year full with happiness and health ! :) Greetings ... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 12:16, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

This shouldn't be on Jivesh's talk page, so I am writing here.

Yeah I knew that was the reason why. To be honest, I don't know what happened. How did this even start? I think you took offence to me saying I don't want to collaborate on everything. And c'mon now Tomica, you think I thought every edit you made was "non-worthy"? You need a reality check on that one if you do. And what articles have I done which you "apparently said" you was going to do? Because I can't think of any. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 16:14, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I also share the same opinion, this is between me and you. Well by your comments, things about how it should be improved, make me feel like that. After I expanded the Background section of Unfaithful, you just hurried up to write how unsatisfied you were with the section. LOL ... buddy take it easy, its not like I am nominating the article for GA tomorrow. It's obvious that the article will go through c/e before it is nominated. And remember on the conversation when Jivesh told you that me and him wanted to make "Umbrella" a collaborative FA, you instantly wrote on the page that you want to do the same. That's so immature. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 16:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Fine, I won't help you on articles you edit in the future if you disapprove of me doing it so much. I was actually going to go through SUAD but if you feel like that, I won't. And I had actually wanted to do Umbrella. It was suggested to me months ago that I should do it instead of S&M. But just because I didn't tell you, you think I am lying right now. Well, if you think that of me, then you don't know me at all. And Lol, I know what has been said about this collaboration. But I won't drop anyone in it. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 16:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

It's not so bad from time to time If you look at my works on Rihanna's articles, but on every single edit that I made. And yeah I think that I knew you, but it's obvious that I didn't. Well I also wanted to do "Take a Bow", but you made it and I haven't even said a word for that. You knew that I wanted to do that song, even though you suggested me to involve my work in it, I can prove it (that happened when I wanted "Cheers" to be collaborative effort). I don't know what other to add Calvin, I really wanted to be friends here and I also want that now, but I don't know if it is possible. I am afraid that If I tell you that I want to do some article, you would be against me doing it and again argue and argue... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 16:29, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

When did I say for you to do Take a Bow? I don't remember. And as for Cheers, you thought you deserved co-nom just because you wrote some of the music video section. And your attitude about it was awful. That's like me re-writing the Music video section for Umbrella and me saying "Btw, Umbrella will be a joint FA nomination". You had never said before in Cheers that you wanted it to be joint, so you don't really have a leg to sand on with that one. I'm so sick of having arguments with you. I tried doing a good will gesture on SUAD by researching released dates for you, but you didn't even say thanks for it. With me and you, it will take time. Otherwise, doing AGLM, GGGB, Rated R and TTT will not be possible. From this point on, we do not argue with each other. If we have a point to make, we ask each other first. This is the only way it will work. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 16:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

When I look back and be real, yeah you are possibly right for "Cheers". For that I thought twice then and stepped out from the co-nomination. And about "Take a Bow", please read this and you will totally understand me. And about "SUAD", well I was (or am) mad at you I told you. I thought the same for Loud, it seems that If don't start to talk normally the article would not be promoted ever, not to talk also about the others that you mentioned above. For now that's it, just to tell you I have plans for improving some Rihanna articles that will tell you the coming days. And just for now I will not be dickhead and I will wish you great night. Happy New Year ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 16:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I forgot I said that, but why didn't you say anything when I started editing the article? You are mad at me because I helped research release dates for you? I don't understand most of what you just said. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 16:52, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Because i was alright with it. i thought you would show flexibility with other articles, but you didn't. I meant that I was mad at yOu about Rehab and previous conversations, so that was the reason for not thanking. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 16:55, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Also, you have completely ignored what I just said about trying to make amends. Me and Jivesh got off on the wrong foot back in May, and now we are the best of friends. Things don't have to stay how they are between us, if you, like I am, are willing to make a difference. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 16:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I hope that would be possible, but of course If I think that you have changed towards me. Sorry, I know you don't agree, but you have shown some of the stupidest moves and I am not the only one who thinks that (btw I will not tell names). That's for now. We are seeing each other in the new year, hopefully dealing with projects and articles. And tonight just Cheers!. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Will talk to you in the new year. Hopefully things will change. My opinions of things that have happened will stay in 2011. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 17:08, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

My New Year Gift ^^^^^^^^^ I ma so happy you had a civilized conversation. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 12:59, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikilove

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	I wish you a Happy New Year and hope that everything goes swimmingly for you in 2012 :). Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 00:13, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank You Calvin. I wish the same for you too! :) — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 10:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Please have a look here

here. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 16:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it is very good. Tom, it will not be in the immediate future. IU want to do two more Beyonce FAs. I will think about it. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 07:01, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

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this is massive! Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 22:47, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

ahah :) I know it's fucking huge, but what can I do, the song was released in a lot of territories. :/ — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 00:34, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Did you know a Nike video version of SOS exists? I kinda prefer it. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 00:44, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Mhm, I know. Yeah, I also like it more than the original version, even though Rihanna looks stunning in the original version. However, I am also more for Nike (as for the brand and as for the video LOL):). — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 00:47, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Lol. The club feel of the song makes more sense with the Nike version. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 00:48, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Probably. To be honest, I am not a big fan of "SOS". For example I like 10 times more "Unfaithful", and that's why I chose to work on it primary instead on "SOS". I like everything about "Unfaithful", the video, the song, the performances. It's gorgeous. It should definitely hit number 1 in the US, but ... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 00:50, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah SOS is not my favourite dance song by her by far. Calvin • ^{Watch n' Learn} 04:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)