User talk:Tkbrett/Archive 2

Confusing edits

Why did you do this? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:49, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

It looks like you are repeatedly doing this. Why? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:12, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Occasionally I get a little overenthusiastic with templates. I see now on the manual of style that there is no need to include a template in non-complex situations. Appreciate the constructive criticism. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 17:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Tkbrett, No worries. Thanks for following up. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Tom Artistic Development

You might use another sketch to canvas example.Joan arden murray (talk) 19:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Joan arden murray. I responded to your original post on the Artistic Development talk page. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 19:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks. Tkbrett (✉) 14:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you today for Berlin to Kitchener name change, "about how a small German-Canadian city in Ontario, Canada went from being named Berlin to Kitchener and the context surrounding that change."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:38, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda. (: Tkbrett (✉) 10:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Komm, gib mir deine Hand / Sie liebt dich

The article Komm, gib mir deine Hand / Sie liebt dich you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Cántalo for issues which need to be addressed. I delivered this message on behalf of the bot, as it has not done for you nearly an hour later even though the GANs page updated. --K. Peake 11:47, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

About the article I have recently opened a review of for you... it will start probably tomorrow, sorry about the delays since I'm working. --K. Peake 20:15, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your work on Berlin to Kitchener name change. It is an article and event that is nearly constantly linked to and referenced in history and biography articles on the area, but I was always disappointed with how messy and short it was – an article in that state did a huge disservice to the event and its significance. You have done a fantastic job with it so far. — Julius177 (talk) 17:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words and for your copy editing. Many Canadian history articles are painfully underappreciated, so I'm all to happy to do my part to remedy the situation. Tkbrett (✉) 17:23, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Julius177, I was reminded of your comment here when I watched a 2016 panel discussion from the KPL. Geoffrey Hayes's first comment out of the gate is... wait for... At the time of his speaking, this is what the page looked like. Can't say I blame him. Tkbrett (✉) 01:49, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

First World War

The British ultimatum expired at midnight Berlin time, 11pm British time, on the 4th August. The BBC source is clearly in error. DuncanHill (talk) 14:34, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

I've posted a shot of the Daily Mirror page from the 5th here. DuncanHill (talk) 14:57, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks for fixing it on the Berlin to Kitchener name change page as well. Do you have a year for the book you cited? I need to work it into the citation format I've been using on that page. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 15:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

1938. It's important to be clear which edition, this was the Odhams Press edition in two volumes, there was an earlier edition in 6 volumes, and an American edition likewise, and all three have differing page numbers. I like the Berlin to Kitchener article by the way, interesting stuff. DuncanHill (talk) 15:07, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

I found an electronic version on the Lloyd George page. I've made the sourcing conform to that one. Thanks for the kind words! Tkbrett (✉) 15:17, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	I was impressed by Berliner Journal! Nice work. --- Possibly (talk) 01:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm excited to get my hands on Kalbfleisch's obscure 1968 book in the next few weeks. There's more to come! :) Tkbrett (✉) 11:54, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Promotion of Berlin to Kitchener name change

Congratulations, Tkbrett! The article you nominated, Berlin to Kitchener name change, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.

This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Berlin to Kitchener name change

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Thanks! Tkbrett (✉) 16:57, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

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GA review

Hey bro. I was wondering if you could review the GAN for "Gatti"? It's the last article I need to make GA before I can nominate Meet the Woo 2 for Good Article Topic. Shoot for the Stars 💫 (talk) 03:06, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars, sorry, I missed this message! I’ll give this one a go after Victoria Day. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 00:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

It looks like you are Canadian. I'm celebrating Memorial Day next week with the fam. Note: I went to Victoria a few years ago and it was so freaking beautiful! My parents are wanting to go back to as soon as this whole Covid mess is behind us. It was my first time out of the United States in years lol. I'm getting off topic... I saw that you are working on bringing "Things We Said Today to GAN. I freaking love that song so much! As soon as you are done fixing up the article, hit me up so I could review it right away. I would love to see that article become GA! You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 00:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Shoot for the Stars, yeah, they're no doubt spoiled in British Columbia. Like you, I'm looking forward to heading back out there as soon as the clouds part. Re:Things We Said Today: Ha! Thanks. I'm glad someone else is interested. There's a real disparity on Wiki between the early and later Beatles ("Komm, gib mir deine Hand" / "Sie liebt dich" and "There's a Place" are now the only pre-1965 songs w/ GA status). I think someday I want to get "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and A Hard Day's Night up there, but those projects will be so intensive that I've been working on these easier entries first. Also, speaking of GA status, it looks like someone else got to Gatti before I did. Hope it's not too soon to congratulate you on the soon to be Good Topic. Tkbrett (✉) 20:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Hey dude. I was wondering if you could either review "Blurred Lines" or "Get Lucky"? I really want both these articles to become GA before I retire from Wikipedia in July. You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 07:16, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Definitely. Also, Shoot for the Stars, there's no such thing as retiring from here, there's only taking really long breaks. Tkbrett (✉) 10:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much! And I’m really planning on retiring though. I start college and am going to be working full time. You know I'm shooting for the stars, aiming for the moon 💫 (talk) 15:56, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

There's a Place

Just so ya know. I put the article on hold for 7 days. The bot is being shit right now and not wanting to work. Shoot for the Stars 💫 (talk) 04:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Article Improvements

Hello!

I'm a university student currently assigned The Polyester Prince wikipedia article page. I have been working on improving the article for the last couple months and am nearly at the end of my course. As you seem to be an active and super good wikipedian i was wondering if you could take a look at what I have done and if you have the credentials and if you think its worthy possibly suggest a change in its grade from a stub? I have added lots of details along with references to support it. If you are busy nor do not wish to bother with this request I fully understand. Thank you for your time! Have a lovely day/evening (depending on where you are in the world :D ) --WaTErMelON690 (talk) 10:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

In His Own Write

The DYK hook for your article In His Own Write is now in Queue 6 to appear on the main page in the first of two sets on June 1st. For your information, I substituted your second hook for the original one because I thought " ... that critics compared John Lennon's first book, In His Own Write, to the writings of James Joyce, even though he had never read him?" very confusing as to who "he" and "him" were referring to (Joyce, Lennon, a critic?). If you feel strongly about using that hook, please suggest a better wording. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Cwmhiraeth, thanks for reaching out. Do I respond here or somewhere else? Anyway, I think I would still prefer the original hook. How about: "... that critics compared John Lennon's first book, In His Own Write, to the writings of James Joyce, even though Lennon had never read him?" Him could now only be referring to Joyce b/c critics is plural. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 10:15, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

OK, I have done that. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:31, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Tkbrett (✉) 10:32, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

GAR

I'm not sure if you've seen the discussions at Talk:GAN about the GAR and GAN that you helpfully commented on yesterday? Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:51, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Chiswick Chap, ah sheesh. I saw when you originally posted it, and when he didn't respond on 31 May I assumed that buidhe had resolved the issue and Michael was just going to disappear. I've dealt with annoying authors before – the Death of Tom Thomson lends itself to conspiracy theories and self-published authors – but I've never seen one persist after being slapped down by multiple editors. I have a sneaking suspicion he is going to use this event to further "discredit" Wikipedia, like he did earlier in an essay posted on his userpage. Sorry this is sucking up so much of your time. Is there anything I can do to help? I assume an admin will be more helpful here since this guy seems to have a personal vendetta against WikiProject Middle-earth and won't be swayed by arguments. At the very least, I'll get around to giving you another GA review when I can! :) Tkbrett (✉) 18:11, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the thoughts and sympathy. I'd just like to get on with editing content. I think (as a yoga editor) that the key thing is to breathe, stay clear and polite, and deal with whatever comes in a conscious way. I've read a bit of what different scholars said about the guy - they think he's opinionated and argumentative but has some good insights, with a lot of knowledge of Tolkien, though he hardly uses secondary sources at all. I hope to get some of those insights ... all the best Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Marcel Duchamp's position

Hello Tkbrett. I tried this over and over, and I just could not find the right move. I even checked with the engine but I always ran into some kind of an unexpected draw. I had to look it up, and wow, Rg7+ later in the game which gains an extra tempo. It was beautiful. — The Most Comfortable Chair 15:59, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi The Most Comfortable Chair, glad I could pass it along to someone else. It's a good one to bring out at parties (depending on the party, I guess). I first saw it years ago and I still haven't really figured it out – once you think you know what's going on there's another level of depth. I think it's one of Marcel Duchamp's best works of art. Tkbrett (✉) 18:04, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

"Thinking of Linking" GAN

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that Shoot for the Stars so it is doubtful that they will complete a review for this GAN. Aoba47 (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Aoba47, I presume you mean he retired. Thanks for the heads up. I’ll leave it for a couple more days to see if he’s still around. Tkbrett (✉) 21:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

• Whoops. I thought I typed "I just wanted to let you know that Shoot for the Stars retired". Apologies for that. That is the best strategy in my opinion as that editor may come back so it is best to wait and make sure. Best of luck with it! Aoba47 (talk) 02:02, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Ian MacDonald and "She's a Woman"

Ian MacDonald's Beatles book and song line-ups really should be disqualified from being a reliable source, since the book was riddled with factual errors and the fact that Ian himself wasn't even a trained musician, but a music critic and taking unnecessary cheap shots at timeless classics - the only Beatles song to merit such cheap shots, IMO, is Revolution 9. I can't understand how Ian could come to such a preposterous and questionable conclusion that Paul played the lead guitar solo on She's a Woman and this is impossible because a) the tone and style is reminiscent of George's Gretsch and b) Paul didn't have a left-handed electric guitar, so he couldn't have feasibly played the guitar solo on one of George or John's guitars without making mistakes, being a left-handed player. 60.241.106.149 (talk) 06:02, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I’m flattered that you think I’m important enough to cast such a judgement across the entire Beatles WikiProject, but if you really want something like that to happen you should go to the Project’s talk page instead. I’m not really sympathetic to the argument either though; that because MacDonald didn’t extol the virtues of every Beatles song the book is somehow sacrilegious. He’s a reliable source by the standard set at WP:RS, which merits his inclusion, but obviously you need to make comparisons between sources as an editor – that’s why I have that information tucked in a note, since it is not the consensus view among Beatles writers and musicologists. That method of going about things is preferable to original research, which is what you are doing. Tkbrett (✉) 11:20, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I already did that in the Talk Page. 60.241.106.149 (talk) 05:44, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of In His Own Write

The article In His Own Write you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:In His Own Write for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Congrats! Great article, fun to review. Best of luck! Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks again Christine. I've been pouring everything into this article in anticipation of this, so rather than putting it up for a peer review I just went ahead and nominated it. Tkbrett (✉) 20:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome. You deserved it. I love it when editors are prepared when they bring articles to GAN or FAC. One of my goals when I nominate articles is to be so prepared, they just skip through to being passed. For example, the fewer supports I get in an FAC, the better. I mean, heck, by this time in my WP editing career, I know what's GA and FA worthy, so there's no reason why I shouldn't make sure that the article has it before submitting them. For me, it's laziness when I don't. Often editors simply don't know, or they need a review to get there. Although it's true that sometimes reviewers pick up on some arbitrary items and make nominators jump through hoops just for the heck of it. At any rate, this article was prepared, so it was an easy pass. You depend so much on offline sources, though, so I recommend that you enlist some of your Beatles project buddies to go support it and reassure reviewers that you're using good sources and that you've utilized them well. Continued luck going forward. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:36, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Christine (Figureskatingfan): I heartily concur. I marked it as a nominee on the the Beatles Project page, so hopefully some come in and help. If no one shows up and it's in danger of getting archived, I'll probably make a more direct plea on the talk page there. Tkbrett (✉) 14:14, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

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Journal titles

See precedents on this. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:02, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Headbomb, I was not aware of this. I'll respond at that talk page rather than here so as to keep the discussion organized. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 15:12, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm Down GAN

I saw your GAN, read the article, and like it. I'm no Beatles expert, but would feel comfortable reviewing it. Whatever you decide, good luck! —Ojorojo (talk) 17:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ojorojo, thanks for the kind words. There aren't many of us editing Beatles articles, so any extra perspective is definitely welcome. Thanks. Tkbrett (✉) 20:18, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Looks like a Beatles fan has already picked it up. There are differences of opinion about the quality of Beatles sources, so it's probably better that someone more familiar with the issues handle it. Maybe next time. —Ojorojo (talk) 13:18, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Ojorojo, these ones always seem to get picked up quickly, especially in comparison to the GANs I do on obscure German-Canadian newspaper history. If you’re still keen, I’m planning on putting "I've Just Seen a Face" up in maybe the next week once I can get some more work in on it. Let me know if you put any up and I'll be glad to help! Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 15:39, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Tamper

Since you asked about the tamper during the review of Operation Grapple, I have created a new article, Tamper (nuclear weapon) on the subject. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 03:48, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Hawkeye7, this is really great stuff. I'm somewhat embarrassed to say I managed to do an entire physics degree without learning about anything especially practical. Stars I can talk plenty about. Nuclear bombs and reactors? Not so much. With that said, I found this page wonderfully informative. Great work. Tkbrett (✉) 11:53, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

GAN

Hello again! If I review Beatle Country would you review one of mine? :-) – zmbro _(talk) 18:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Zmbro, that's funny, I just noticed yesterday that your nom of Let's Dance was abandoned a while ago, so I was going to offer to pick it up. I'm going to be quite busy with the real world for the next couple weeks though, so I may be a bit slow at getting to it. Tkbrett (✉) 12:27, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hey Zmbro, I re-read my response here and realized I didn't give a clear answer; I'll review Let's Dance and Pin Ups and anything else you manage to nominate, but it'll be a couple weeks. If I haven't done anything in three weeks time feel free to ping me. Tkbrett (✉) 12:53, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Tk I really appreciate it! If you could do me a favor and secure those noms so no one else does that'd be great. I'll also check out Beatle Country sometime today or tomorrow. – zmbro _(talk) 12:57, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021

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Ingrid D. Rowland

Hiya! I was in the process of editing the book list to add ISBNs and put into book template when you undid my edit. I'll undo yours and continue? Feanor0 (talk) 13:30, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey Feanor0, yeah, that's fine. I'm not usually a fan of the long formats for an author's bibliography, but it's more a personal preference. Cheers. Tkbrett (✉) 13:35, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Ah ok, I'll not make any format changes then. Feanor0 (talk) 13:37, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

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I've Just Seen a Face

		The WikiProject The Beatles barnstar
		Great job on "I've Just Seen a Face"! It is one of my favorite Beatles' songs and quite underappreciated. The GA article should change that. I am not in a position to do the peer review you are requesting, but I hope someone picks it up in the near future. I look forward to seeing it as a FAC. Eewilson (talk) 01:23, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Eewilson! I'll probably just drop the PR and go straight to FAC, since it doesn't seem to be getting much activity. The song is a special one for me, so I wanted its article to be top-notch. Being a teenager and first getting into the group, I initially only listened to the big singles; when I made the jump into the albums, I was wondering if it would just be lesser quality material, like you find with other bands. But when I listened to Help! for the first time, this song about blew the top of my head off. I just couldn't believe that such an incredible track was hidden away on the backside of that record. It made me excited at the thought of how much this band had to offer. I'm not old enough to have heard the music as it came out, but I recall my aunts and uncles describing a similar experience picking up Beatlemania! With the Beatles and hearing "All My Loving", being amazed that what would be any other group's biggest hit was instead tucked onto an LP. Tkbrett (✉) 13:04, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

I don't blame you about PR. I thought about doing it for my first FAC (which is not quite finished), but I had so many eyes on it before GA (including someone who works on articles in that field), and a thorough GA, that I didn't want to hold it up with another wait. I'm not old enough to have been around during concert-age when the Beatles were together, but did hear songs on the radio. Great music breaks generational boundaries. Eewilson (talk) 14:56, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, Eewilson. I've submitted it as an FAC and I'd love to hear your thoughts, if you're interested! Tkbrett (✉) 16:47, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

I would love to! Thanks. I'll take a look at it later today. Eewilson (talk) 17:30, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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What’s Up

My first time logging into here for some time. Just saw your note on my Guestbook some ~3+ years ago. Late answer, I know. Hope you’ve been well. Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 01:06, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey Tofutwitch11! Great to hear from you. Things are going pretty well. I got a flying job a few years back – Evan and I actually work at the same airline now. For obvious reasons, there hasn't been much flying in the last year and a half, leading me to spend a lot of time on this site. How have you been? I haven't heard from anyone besides Evan in a long time, since I haven't been on the sim much and the 2015 convention was the only one I ever made it out to. Tkbrett (✉) 17:02, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Sorry about the delayed reply — I don’t find myself on here very often anymore. Any signs on when you & Evan may be back to flying? I talk to him every now and again and I know it has been rough. I don’t really find myself on the sim anymore with work and life and such … but I hope to get back to it sooner rather than later. I spent the pandemic working for Enterprise (the car rental company) and thankfully my job survived the pandemic…though many others were not so lucky. I left about six months ago to work for Ally Financial. Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 21:55, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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Thomson Prices Realized

Perhaps you should add a section in your excellent Tom Thomson article about prices realized at auction and about the forgeries which exist and continue to be made. That is why the Tom Thomson: The Art of Authentication was done. It is a very serious Thomson problem and you should flag it. Please think about it.Joan arden murray (talk) 19:08, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Joan arden murray. At the moment, the page includes one mention of this: The increased value of his work has led to the discovery of numerous forgeries on the market. The citations I've found supporting this sentence are Silcox & Town (2017), p. 182; Silcox (2015), p. 74; and Dellandrea (2017). Each citation includes only a brief sentence or so; I haven't found any significant coverage. Do you discuss the forgery situation in any of your books? Regarding the Art of Authentication exhibition, I haven't found much secondary source coverage regarding it. Did it have an exhibition catalogue with essays? That would help a lot.Tkbrett (✉) 23:00, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it had an excellent catalogue with essays discussing what is right about a right Tom Thomson and publishing an example of a fake Thomson and also publishing - this is interesting - an artist influenced by Thomson who had sketches made into fakes (not with his knowledge, of course). Be good if you could mention it after your lead sentence. I don`t have a copy where I am but the show is at the Art Gallery of Hamilton, going on to Kingston. You would enjoy it, if you see it. Rare to have a Thomson show which has a thesis like this at any time! Also, about citations, I think I published forgeries in my Tom Thomson: The Last Spring book. Again, don`t have it here. Cheers!Joan arden murray (talk) 00:12, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I`ll try to get you citations tomorrow but you may be able to get the books on Interlibrary loan.Joan arden murray (talk) 00:31, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Try https://www.artgalleryofhamilton.com/exhibition/tom-thomson-the-art-of-authentication/ for now.Joan arden murray (talk) 00:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Here is a link to the publication: https://agnes.queensu.ca/product/tom-thomson-the-art-of-authentication and here is a link to what the art community thinks about the show: https://www.aci-iac.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Art-Canada-Institute-Newsletter_Best-in-Show-Must-See-Exhibitions.pdf . Joan arden murray (talk) 11:48, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, Joan arden murray. I agree, it's an interesting idea. I found the one McMichael put on last year (A Like Vision) a bit of disappoint, as I felt it was largely a rehash of previous catalogues and showings. I'll hopefully be able to make it over to the AGH, and in the meantime I've ordered a copy of its publication. I'll start using it once I get my hands on it, however long that takes given the slow pace of mail these days. Tkbrett (✉) 18:05, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Wonderful but don`t go to Hamilton too late. Show is over there January 2, I think.Joan arden murray (talk) 18:37, 5 December 2021 (UTC)