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Nomination of John Campion for deletion

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Boleyn (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Campion d.o.b.

July 1976! Here's a closer reference. I'd consider Companies House a reliable source. 10mmsocket (talk) 12:38, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 12:54, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Chronology added to Timeline of football on UK television article

An IP has added a chronology of who held the rights to Division One/Premier League to my Timeline of football on UK television article. It's a good addition to Wikipedia but I'm not sure whether it should be part of the timeline or a separate article, which could be expanded to include other UK football competitions such as the FA Cup. What do you think? Rillington (talk) 13:39, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

I agree it's good information, but looks like it could be part of a separate thing. I know there are different broadcasting arrangements for different leagues, such as the recently agreed television rights for the WSL for example, so it probably would be better with its own article. This is Paul (talk) 16:59, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Chronology of football on UK television now created. What other competitions do you think should be added? I think that the FA Cup, World Cup, the Euros and the European Cup/Champions League should be there plus probably the Football League and the League Cup. Other contracts that could be added might be the English national football team, the SPL, Scottish FA Cup and the Europa League, assuming the necessary information can be found. What do you think? Rillington (talk) 16:58, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
As you can see from the article, this is very much work in progress and I've recently added a brief section for the World Cup. Other competitions, including the FA Cup and the Champions League, will be added in the future. I've also added some notes to provide background information and to ensure that there are references.
This looks good, and I think you've mentioned most of the competitions on TV. Now the WSL is regularly on TV that could perhaps be included again, depending on what information is available. This is Paul (talk) 18:39, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Also, I'm continuing to compile the other timelines we talked about and am also starting on an additional timeline of UK radio chart shows. Rillington (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good, there's been a few of those over the years. This is Paul (talk) 18:41, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Timeline of chart shows on UK radio now created. Rillington (talk) 17:16, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
This is great. This is Paul (talk) 19:17, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm now compiling a timeline of UK radio breakfast programmes and this should be created in the next few days. The timeline will not include early breakfast shows. Certainly for now, for the most part, the timeline will be restricted to national breakfast shows. Rillington (talk) 16:52, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Sounds sensible to restrict it to national shows as there are several hundred local stations which would make it a huge article. I've had an idea to create a timeline of broadcasting regulations, eg, when Ofcom was launched and so on. I don't know if there's enough to do that, but will investigate. This is Paul (talk) 18:02, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
I think a timeline of broadcasting regulation in the UK is an excellent idea. What areas would you look to include?

User talk:This is Paul/Archive40 lists the timelines we are considering and in addition to my radio breakfast show timeline, I am continuing to put together timelines for multi-sport events, nighttime television and election broadcasts with the overnight timeline being the closest to completion. you indicated that you would look to do a timeline for commercial radio in Ireland snd maybe begin putting together the daytime television timeline? Rillington (talk) 16:04, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm still intending to do it, but updating the COVID stuff seems to be taking up most of my time at present. I keep hoping things might slow down a bit and we won't have so much news, but it still takes an hour or so to update everything each day. My off-Wiki life is getting busier again too, but hopefully I'll do it soon. This is Paul (talk) 23:18, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

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Nomination of 76.1 FM for deletion

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Several other radio frequency articles have also been nominated for deletion. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:44, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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Timeline articles

I've recently added my latest time article - Timeline of breakfast radio programmes in the UK. I decided to restrict it to the national BBC stations and Classic Fm and Virgin/Absolute Radio, and not include the likes of Heart and Smooth as there are not national stations in the true definition of the word in this context, merely networks of local stations. I felt this would stop the timeline from becoming too unwieldly.

I've also introduced a section to 2021 in British radio for the switching on of the new small-scale multiplexes.

Finally one of my articles - Chronology of football on UK television - has been put into draft space at Draft:Chronology of football on UK television, and in truth it was a reasonable enough decision as it isn't anywhere near being completed. You can see the format I am using for this article and there are many more competitions and leagues to add, such as the FA Cup, European Cup/Champions League and international matches. I will add to this over time but my other under construction timeline would take priority with my forthcoming Nighttime timeline to follow next along with election broadcasts and multi-sport events, both of which are also under construction. I also think we decided upon a timeline for daytime television and also regional broadcasting on the BBC and ITV plus timelines for other genres such as film channels, shopping channels, music channels and also state broadcasts, business programmes, religious broadcasting, music programming and soap operas. I'd also add current affairs programmes to the list. We also gave a thumbs up to a satellite television timeline. On radio, we talked about timelines for LBC and TalkSPORT and more city/regional timelines for radio. Are there any others that we have missed? Rillington (talk) 13:33, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Breakfast radio timeline looks good. Have you considered adding Boom Radio, as that one is a national station. I can't think of anything that's missing, but there's sure to be something. This is Paul (talk) 14:31, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
No because Boom Radio isn't one of the original INR commercial stations and to start adding breakfast shows on more stations would make the timeline too unwieldly. Rillington (talk) 14:19, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

A question about "reFill 2"

Hi Paul, just a quick question, is there an option you can set for "reFill 2" to get it to apply the 'cite news' template and use the 'work' parameter rather than 'via' one, as is more normal for BBC News references? Currently, each time you use it, it uses the 'Cite web' template and sets the 'via=bbc.co.uk' parameter instead of the 'work=BBC News' one, as it did here. Thanks. -- DeFacto (talk). 21:15, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi DeFacto, I'm not sure, but if it's not possible I think it would be a useful thing to have. I used to use WP:REFLINKS which had several different cite options available, and where it was easier to edit each reference before they were changed if the software didn't process it properly. That seemed to stop working well though so I switched to refill. If there isn't an option it might be worth suggesting it to the developer. I also don't know why it changes the url to bbc.com as that's not the usual address for BBC News. This is Paul (talk) 21:26, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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