User talk:Thewildone85
Thank you for your New Jersey edits
[edit]I've noticed your edits on a few of the pages I created. I believe that adding a link to the state in the infobox is accepted practice, per Template:Infobox settlement. However, I'd like to thank you for your hard work adding the category "unincorporated communities in New Jersey" to so many settlements. Before I began editing on New Jersey, I did several hundred edits to unincorporated communities in Mississippi, and having a "master category" of unincorporated communities was very useful. Without the parent category, a user looking for an alpha list would have to go through each individual county. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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Neighborhood vs. unincorporated community
[edit]Technically they are the same. See https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Local_government_in_New_Jersey#Unincorporated_communities Famartin (talk) 22:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I agree. We at Wikipedia define an unincorporated area as "a region of land that is not governed by its own local municipal corporation, but rather is administered as part of larger administrative divisions, such as a township, parish, borough, county, city, canton, state, province or country." The more specific Local government in New Jersey#Unincorporated communities defines it as "well-defined communities that are part of one or more incorporated municipalities but are not independent municipalities in their own right." Any defined community that is not incorporated as a borough, city, town, township or village is an unincorporated community. While it comes off as ludicrous to me to start this exercise in the first place, a neighborhood (or census-designated place for that matter) is just as unincorporated as any other place. Is there any logic here to exclude neighborhoods? Alansohn (talk) 23:16, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Edit warring at Grantwood
[edit]Your edit at Grantwood, New Jersey has been reverted. The addition of Category:Unincorporated communities in New Jersey is inappropriate categorization and contravenes Wikipedia policy on SUB-CATEGORIZATION. Normal protocol requires a discussion on this page as part of the Wikipedia:Bold (also see: Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle). I refer you to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Jersey#Categorization of unincorporated communities in New Jersey where two of the four editors involved two find the category inappropriate and another who is indifferent. Respond here or on that page. Do not revert, which would be EDIT WARRING and be taken as DISRUPTIVE.Djflem (talk) 17:50, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- Other editors find Thewildone85's addition of this category very useful. Although not on my talk page, I find your intimidating tone disturbing and I'd advise you, Djflem, to take a moment and read Wikipedia:Etiquette. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
I'd suggest you'd also read Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle which discuses politeness and protocol, too. Wikipedia:Etiquette says Do not ignore reasonable questions. At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Jersey#Categorization of unincorporated communities in New Jersey there is a question waiting your response to you comments about "no-brainers" and "snake oil". Would be so kind as to answer it? Djflem (talk) 22:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
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[edit] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Radburn, New Jersey. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted or removed.
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Please read WP:SUBCAT. In particular A page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory.... Nyth63 00:15, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps all 800+ communities should be reviewed for correct categorization per policy. Nyth63 13:14, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Nyth83, this would make New Jersey about the only state in the US which doesn't add both the parent and child cat. Editors have realized the advantage of doing this, and are breaking this rule accordingly for the good of the project and its many users. This is an ongoing dispute which has occurred over and over. To center out one editor won't solve your issue, or win what seems to be a losing battle. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:56, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- This appears to be a perpetual problem. Not sure how I got in the middle of this other that I may have been tracking and reverting a number of edits by a known vandal. But looking at the edit history on this article it looks like an edit war of sorts got started on 20 Jan when user:Alansohn used the Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to remove the parent cat. He has removed it twice and user:Djflem has removed it twice, and (apoligies) I removed it twice. Perhaps there needs to be an exception section or a note of some type in WP:SUBCAT regarding this. I have not downloaded or used AWB so I don't have any suggestion about how to resolve that issue. Can you provide me a link to a discussion about this whole issue from somewhere? Nyth63 17:18, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry for lashing out friend; you need to be tough in New Jersey! A few months ago I contacted User:Hmains, who was responsible for adding many of the parent/child categories across the US. That user's response may explain some of this. Much of the drama can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Jersey. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 18:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your feedback. I am just trying to make this encyclopedia as consistent as possible. A similar issue takes place with Townships, Cities, and Boroughs. A discussion has been started here: Category talk:Unincorporated communities in the United States by state if you want to chime in. Thewildone85 (talk) 18:12, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Jersey#Categorization of unincorporated communities in New Jersey has many points already made and not addressed, including by Thewildone85 who has been asked to respond there on numerous occasions Djflem (talk) 22:19, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you both for your feedback. I am just trying to make this encyclopedia as consistent as possible. A similar issue takes place with Townships, Cities, and Boroughs. A discussion has been started here: Category talk:Unincorporated communities in the United States by state if you want to chime in. Thewildone85 (talk) 18:12, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry for lashing out friend; you need to be tough in New Jersey! A few months ago I contacted User:Hmains, who was responsible for adding many of the parent/child categories across the US. That user's response may explain some of this. Much of the drama can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Jersey. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 18:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- This appears to be a perpetual problem. Not sure how I got in the middle of this other that I may have been tracking and reverting a number of edits by a known vandal. But looking at the edit history on this article it looks like an edit war of sorts got started on 20 Jan when user:Alansohn used the Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser to remove the parent cat. He has removed it twice and user:Djflem has removed it twice, and (apoligies) I removed it twice. Perhaps there needs to be an exception section or a note of some type in WP:SUBCAT regarding this. I have not downloaded or used AWB so I don't have any suggestion about how to resolve that issue. Can you provide me a link to a discussion about this whole issue from somewhere? Nyth63 17:18, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
- Nyth83, this would make New Jersey about the only state in the US which doesn't add both the parent and child cat. Editors have realized the advantage of doing this, and are breaking this rule accordingly for the good of the project and its many users. This is an ongoing dispute which has occurred over and over. To center out one editor won't solve your issue, or win what seems to be a losing battle. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:56, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
This issue persists regarding overcatgeorization in which you have added articles to the parent Category:Unincorporated communities in New Jersey. I'm sure that WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS in other states, but there seems to be strong consensus here to remove the parent cat per WP:SUBCAT, as each of these communities is incorporated in the parent through the county-based categories. There may well be a principled case that there should be an exception to WP:SUBCAT made here, but you need to make that at the discussion at WT:NJ. Reverting these edits with edit summaries calling them "fixes" does not constitute discussion. Alansohn (talk) 16:10, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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