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A barnstar for you!

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Nomination for merging of Template:WikiProject British TV channels

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Nomination for merging of Template:WikiProject British television

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Nomination for merging of Template:WikiProject Heroes

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mobile variant css formatting

Thanks so much for your work on Template:Intro to single/styles.css. I'm trying to update Template:Intro_to/sandbox at the moment and I just wanted to check what the following bit of code does:

@media screen and (min-width: 1101px) {
	.introtosingle__main {
		max-width: 1100px;
	}
}

Do you know if there's away to specify different CSS when on a mobile screen? In particular, on mobile for the left-hand menu items: 1) omitting vertical padding between the menu items and 2) omitting their subtitles. Is there a way to implement the equivalent of:

.mw-parser-output .onlymobile {
    display: block;
}

Thanks for any ideas! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 05:11, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Evolution and evolvability, "what the following bit of code does:" When the screen is 1101pixels or wider, limit the width of introtosingle__main to 1100pixels (instead of the default to make it as wide as required to fit the content (aka auto)). Note I chose these pixel values because i wanted to preserve the width that was set in the original version of the template, which was 1100pixels.

"different CSS when on a mobile screen" I just explained one ☝️. In general it is best not to assume a device, instead just work with the available width and adapt the styling based on that (viewport width breakpoints). See also something like: meta:Template:Main_Page/styles.css used for the main page of meta. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:45, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Perfect - thank you! Very good point about basing it on display size rather than device. That way if put in a narrow window on a desktop display it'd make itself similarly compact for readability to how it would on a phone, whereas on a large tablet, it'd still make use of the available space. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 23:44, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

I think I've managed to get something sensible working at Template:Intro_to/styles.css. If you have a moment to cast an eye over the changes in behaviour at 1100px and 800px screen width I'd be intersted in your throughts. Also, is there pros and cons to merging Template:Intro_to/styles.css and Template:Intro_to_single/styles.css? Thanks! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 23:24, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Evolution and evolvability, sorry, i haven't had time for this yet. I hope to look at it soon. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:39, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Lang titlepart

Hey, I'm trying to understand what valid use {{Lang titlepart}} has, as when I tested it, it produces a warning message for incorrect use. --Gonnym (talk) 09:43, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Gonnym, must have not used it correctly: {{lang titlepart|ja|Japanese text}}: "{{lang titlepart|ja|Japanese text}}". The purpose is to use this inside {{DISPLAYTITLE}} usages, when you want to markup a single word inside a title as being in a foreign language. It's really a shortcut od {{lang}} with disabled categorisation. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Example —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:38, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok, now I see. Thanks. Just out of curiosity, have you ever seen a use-case for this? Asking as this isn't used anywhere for a 8+ year template. --Gonnym (talk) 10:59, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Gonnym, it was used back then, but i guess the uses got replaced. it's creation was the result of an WP:VP/T discussion. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:59, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

responsiveContent

Howdy TheDJ - Through a process of elimination I discovered that responsiveContent was causing the problem seen in the image to the right—I'm not sure what to call it. Wordwrap (text wrap) not working? Or margins? Image placement? - I'm sure you'll know! Main point is it made it really hard to read the text to the left of the table.

Background & specifications info

See Talk:2019–20 coronavirus pandemic#Epidemiology table for my initial discussion with other editors, who helped me problem solve.

I followed the instructions at mw:Help:Locating broken scripts.

I use the Vector skin.

Windows 10 Pro, version 1909, installed on 2 Aug 2019, OS build 18363.752

Google Chrome Version 81.0.4044.92 (Official Build) (64-bit)

Thanks! - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.) 07:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Markworthen, i'm unable to reproduce with Chrome 81.0.4044.92. Possibly that means that it is a combination of modifications/gadgets that you have installed, or a fluke, or it requires very specific set of page content conditions. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:27, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Cool. Hopefully that means it's a rare occurrence! Thank you very much - Mark D Worthen PsyD (talk) (I'm a man—traditional male pronouns are fine.) 15:40, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Discussion re Common.js

I started a discussion at MediaWiki talk:Common.js#Extra jump after collapsing that you might be interested in. Enterprisey (talk!) 02:09, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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D :D :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebaconhalrguru (talk • contribs) 16:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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Emptying comon.css?

Hey, TheDJ, I saw on the thread at Mediawiki talk:Common.css#CSS_to_left_align_the_text_in_the_first_column_of_a_table where you said that we are trying to empty this file. I am absolutely not disputing that, it squares with everything I've seen on that page, but is there a discussion or decision you can point to where that choice was made? Timeshifter is being...insistent about it, and I feel that being able to point them to writing that says, "try not to add things to common.css" might be helpful, if it exists. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:19, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Writ Keeper, there is a longstanding convention upheld by the MediaWiki:Common.css maintainers to add as little CSS as possible. There is also longstanding convention to prefer inline styles (and later TemplateStyles) over classes being added to MediaWiki:Common.css. These are simply logical conclusions from the fact that any CSS on site wide CSS pages gets delivered on every single pageview, regardless of wether they are needed by that page. I'm not sure if that was ever documented.

But one of the whole points of TemplateStyles was to find a way to address this problem. See also mw:Help:TemplateStyles#What_problems_does_it_solve?. Unfortunately en.wp has a LOT of legacy. So 4 years later and important constructs like mbox, infobox, navbox still make use of Common.css, simply because trying to change that is so much work and is likely to result in so many angry comments by those who only care about the tiny breakages and not the technical details, that this transition is still far from over.

Timeshifter is right that TemplateStyles are not entirely ideal in this situation, as tables are often used without templates. So it is a bit silly to have to put a templatestyles tag inside the wiki text directly to fix this. However, it is the best we have. Wrap the template styles in a separate {{table alignment classes}} that people can include just before the table and I think you also have a decent fix. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:44, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I have made a comment on this last one on the related VPT thread. --Izno (talk) 12:01, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

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Do you think that Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Any animated GIF should have an ON/OFF switch (or whatever of that is realistically feasible) would be small enough to handle in the Community Wishlist? (Please ping me.) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 02:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Whatamidoing (WMF), probably yes. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:35, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hello! I tried this script a few years back and was not able to get it to work. Tried it again today and had the same issue. I've tried changing skins in case that was a conflict. When I extend my window horizontally, all it does is extend the margins, not bring the preview alongside the text box. Any advice? It's a great idea. czar 01:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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PerfektesChaos decorated, and positioning of coordinates

Thank you for your kind nomination.

Now the decorative present arrived.
However, I will put an image of the giveaway on my awards page and wear a virtual shirt.

While deWP is attempting to solve a similar problem, I happened to dig in enWP gutts.

At phab:T91481 #2451920 you wrote in 2016: the coordinates template should never be restricted to such a “top” spot, but should also have an appropriate corresponding inline position
I learnt that it’s official policy at enWP to show regular coordinates and map link inside article contents, and use the thing in the top right corner as duplicate only.
The thing is clipped away in mobile skin.
- Almost 60 % of accessing enWP article space pages for reading view seem to use mobile.
- On sightseeing it is most valuable to read the article of next monument, get the map, indicated your position and see that there are less than 200 steps to walk. Bad fate if no map link is available on cell phone.
For future desktop skin development content area is supposed to be clipped for security reasons.
- By accident or vandalism an element in content may leak, perhaps covering the entire viewport. Transparent layer preferred. Then interface links cannot be accessed any longer.
I was astonished to find apparently a quarter million of articles with top right corner display=title only (multiple attempts depending on server load gave >260,000 matches).
- They might result from early insertions like this one at year 1 before the mobile era.
- It might be an idea to arrange a box at page bottom with explanation, data, map links.
- An indicator icon might replace data in top right corner and link to the box at page bottom, or any other place (infobox) where geo is available for this parcular page.
- According to WP:ORDER page coordinates are to be written at page bottom already.
- However, there is no warranty that all authors transcluded exactly there. Some bot runs and dump analysis is to be taken before a transclusion can be turned into display=inline and a box is drawn around. In the long run the title option and the entire display parameter could be obsoleted. However, as you wrote in 2016: will show up in unexpected places inside articles, because people never figured the template would show any content
You may put this issue on appropriate rails. It’s not my business, but you might trigger a maintenance operation.

Greetings --PerfektesChaos (talk) 14:36, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

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erwin85.toolforge.org

Die Tools unter https://erwin85.toolforge.org/ funktionieren nicht mehr. Kannst du als Maintainer eingreifen? Gruß --FriedhelmW (talk) 15:53, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

@FriedhelmW I'll try to take a look, but that thing is soooo old.. it seems there has been a php update and I don't think I'll feel like rewriting all the mysql calls to make this ancient tool work again.. What about it do you miss, because almost all of its functionality is also provided by other tools —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:16, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the answer. Could you have a look at Phabricator:T268122? --FriedhelmW (talk) 16:23, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

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timecorrection

Hi TheDJ, just to confirm, am I right that your patch https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/679959 now causes mw.user.options.get('timecorrection') to hold the current UTC offset (and not the UTC offset at the time of changing the preference)? – SD0001 (talk) 10:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

yup ;) —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:50, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, can you also give me a sanity check on this: now it's possible to arbitrarily format dates in JS per user timezone, and the only bug that arises would be a 1-hour error when we're talking about an event on the other side of the DST switchover. Right? (Apologies if that's obviously correct or obviously wrong, but i live in a DST-free country so I'm not used to thinking about this :)) – SD0001 (talk) 18:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

That seems like a correct representation to me. The preferred way would still be to take the full timezone identifier and apply that to the date you want to show, to avoid the other problem as well. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:45, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Cosmetic problem with WP banners

For what it's worth, there's a minor cosmetic problem with your "responsiveContent" script and WikiProject Banners which I've described at Template talk:WPBannerMeta#Cosmetic problem in a narrow browser window. I'm not really expecting a solution, just letting you know. -- Dr Greg talk 22:17, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Gadget "watchlist notice"

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