User talk:Tewapack/Archive 4
Unreferenced BLPs
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- Yasuharu Imano - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Angelo Que - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- James Mason (golfer) - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
- Lionel Hebert - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL
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2010 Accenture Match Play: Prize Money Payouts in Euros
[edit]Greetings Tewapack ...
Information for Accenture Match Play Money payouts comes from page-2 of this source (a PDF file)
This Week on the European PGA Tour: February 15, 2010
Make special note of this -- the composer of the source information accidently flipped-flopped the columns for payouts in Euros and Pounds. The Euro payouts will be as follows ...
. US $ Euro € Champion 1,400,000 1,019,635.26 Runner-Up 850,000 619,064.27 Third Place 600,000 436,986.54 Fourth Place 490,000 356,872.34 QuarterFinals (x 4) 270,000 196,643.84 Third Round (x 8) 140,000 101,963.53 Second Round (x 16) 95,000 69,189.54 First Round (x 32) 45,000 32,773.99
Thanx-A-Lot and Enjoy, Frank -- Fgf2007 (talk) 23:57, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Tewapack, I've just added a section in this page for information on his World Golf Championship performance. I'm not sure though if he has played in any WGC event prior to 2007 and I couldn't find out. Could you please look it up? Thanks. And thanks also for refining my edits on updating the tournaments won. Sahitana (talk) 10:23, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Mike Weir
[edit]You reverted my referenced addition of Brennan Little as Mike's caddy since 1999, saying that the caddy isn't notable. I would argue that Brennan is at least as notable as Mike's swing coaches or his wife, and the fact that they have been a team for more than 11 years is worth a mention.
Connor isn't notable enough for an article (neither is Ronan Flood, actually) but Brennan certainly is worth a note in Mike's article. PKT(alk) 10:40, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
I have created the wikitables on all of these major champions, all I need you to do is to find and put in the scores, runnersup, and margins. As well, their are navboxes for each one to make it easier. By the way, Nicklaus is on his career statistics page and has been done.BLUEDOGTN 15:17, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- If you want to you can provide me with the sources, which I will do the implementation of the information, and that is because you know where to get the information i.e. Titleholders and Western Open. I am wondering how you can find the information so readily, but good job Tewapack!BLUEDOGTN 20:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
- They are now all done, I am tired, I am out! See you later! Thanks for overseeing my edits!BLUEDOGTN 05:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Ah . . .
[edit]"Using {{reflist|colwidth=30em}} will allow the browser to automatically choose the number of columns based on the width of the web browser. Choose a column width that is appropriate for the average width of the references on the page." [1] Bottom line: there is no reason for you to revert the insertion of the auto column width code on the Tommy Aaron, Andy Bean, Woody Blackburn and Phil Hancock articles. This is not a matter of personal preference; it is one of the preferred footnote/reference formats.
As for the use of a biographical article subject's nickname in the midst of the subject's full name at the outset of the lead paragraph, I can forgo the use of the nickname provided the actual article title uses the subject's nickname. Otherwise, the lead should include the subject's common nickname. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:47, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
How I Found the scores for the tables?
[edit]I am going to provide you with a step-by-step methodology, which I used to get them for the senior majors, so if in the future you would like to update the regular senior or champions tour wins.
- Go to this website Champions Tour.
- Click on Players in the top navbar.
- Choose a player on the next page, but if they are not listed type in the last name.
- If they are not listed do the search to find the golfer in the search box on the players page and search by last name.
- Click on the name i.e. Ginn for Stewart Ginn, which then shows Also Matching and click on the players name click on Stewart Ginn Page.
- Go to the right infobox, where it has about ten links to the other pages on the golfer and click on Results
- Then scroll down in the drop down box for the year you want and it will bring up the score to use.
- I suggest a copy and paste methodology.
This is how I found The Tradition and Senior Players scores, but the runners-up came via paper search on googles archive which you provided to me, so thanks!BLUEDOGTN 18:47, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Why did you take Jack Nicklaus and The Senior major golf championships wikitable off of his main page?
[edit]Hello, Tewapack,
I have to disagree with you on the removal of the senior major championships wiki table from his page, do we have a different standard for his article, which I think it is noteworthy to mention on the main page and not buried on some auxiliary page. Nicklaus is the only golfer to have won eight senior majors and the only one to connect all four which is considered to be a slam, which this is not relevant to be on his main page! I think like all the other golfers to have won senior majors his wiki table should be mentioned on his main page and repeated on his auxiliary page, which would create a uniform standard.
Thanks,
BLUEDOGTN 19:44, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
Lets have it out! NOW!
[edit]Please respond, I was only going by your title of the tournament provision, which I prefer to take out all sponsor out of the major championships wikitables. But you seem to wanting to put them in, which is a rather sad event on wikipedia, since it is an encyclopedia not an advertising machine. I think that all sponsors of golf tournaments needs to be left out unless they are the only title to the event in question! By the way, who says your sponsors like McDonalds, etc. are correct on the women's tournaments.BLUEDOGTN 18:39, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry!
[edit]I just don't like edit warring and I wanted us two to get to the bottom of it quickly, so we could nip it in the bud.BLUEDOGTN 23:01, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Category:United States Solheim Cup team navbox templates and Category:European Solheim Cup team navbox templates
[edit]I have created these, which you can look at them to see if anything needs to get changed with them! Thanks!BLUEDOGTN 23:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
Look at it and tell me what you think of the new organizing of it, so it is much cleaner!BLUEDOGTN 18:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- Please also see related discussion at the existing template talk page. Regards, wjematherbigissue 20:13, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
2005, 2006, and 2007 WGC Invitationals?
[edit]I created the pages, but I could not find the money, so I need you to help out with that!BLUEDOGTN 00:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, I got them done!BLUEDOGTN 02:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- 2009 WGC-Bridgestone Invitational is done, as well, now!BLUEDOGTN 03:06, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- 2008 WGC-Bridgestone Invitational is done, as well, now!BLUEDOGTN 03:34, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
This is done if your want to go and check it out. Have a great day, and thanks for helping me so much and dealing with me on here!BLUEDOGTN 04:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
This is done if you want to go and check it out!BLUEDOGTN 18:14, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
WGC and Player articles?
[edit]Do you think like Tiger Woods all of the other winners should have the same wikitables for their wins?BLUEDOGTN 19:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Which tables are you referring too? Tewapack (talk) 20:24, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
- Like these tables.BLUEDOGTN 00:23, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Just Created this!BLUEDOGTN 03:36, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks on Template talk:Infobox golfer.
[edit]I know you did not agree with me, but you brought evidence to the table, and I respect that fact! I have an example for you to look at Jay Haas, which I did to see if you or other liked it?BLUEDOGTN 02:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
WGC?
[edit]What do you think about what I have done on these tournament articles and the players articles to highlight the significances of these wins in their golfing careers? Look at Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Geoff Ogilvy, which I made uniform!BLUEDOGTN 23:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Erica Blasberg record in majors in 2004
[edit]Please see Talk:Erica_Blasberg for an explanation of why it is important to note why she did not play in the Kraft Nabisco in 2010. Thank you. --Crunch (talk) 16:35, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Use of Infobox Golf Tournament
[edit]Hi Tewapack, We seem to have a misinterpretation of the correct use of the Template:Infobox Golf Tournament. Specifically, I have interpreted that the location field should be filled in with just the country name using the {flagicon}} template, not the written out city and state. Also, I have interpreted that the to-par record should be the single round record for the tournament, not the total to-par record for the tournament. I noticed that you have reversed some of my uses of the template. I got my directions on the directions page for the template, here: Template talk:Infobox Golf Tournament. Am I missing something? --Crunch (talk) 23:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
- To butt in, I see the "To-par" field the same as Tewapack (i.e. total to-par record), despite the apparent instructions given on that talk page (which should be altered), otherwise it simply does not make sense (to me). The location field would depend on the context, with some tournaments being tied to a state or city, not just country. In any case I think this discussion may be best continued at the template talk page. wjematherbigissue 01:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
- I have removed the offending documentation from the talk page, since there is some already attached to the template page. I have also started a discussion there regarding this field if you wish to offer your view on it. Regards, wjematherbigissue 10:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I think that this change to the Earl Woods page is incorrect. It had been listed as May for nearly a year until it was changed here by an IP that has a history of making subtle factual errors. See for example [2] [3] [4] [5] [6], many of which were undone by regular editors on those pages, not me. In addition, I found a story from before that change was made by the IP that used the May date. If you look at the original versions of the page that added it too, and provided the original source, the May date was used. If I am mistaken, please let me know. Shadowjams (talk) 03:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Good Luck!
[edit]I will be gone from wikipedia for about ten years, I will miss the times we had, when you helped me and made my stuff better! I just can not deal with the pain and trouble of mindhardened editors on here in the golf project of which you are not one! I only wish you luck in that never happens to you! Good Luck and Good Bye from GolfAuthority and TennisAuthority!BLUEDOGTN 03:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)GOLFAUTHORITY 03:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Paula Creamer scoring average
[edit]You are reading the LPGA Greensheet incorrectly. Paula Creamer's scoring average is 0.00, not 69.00. See the discussion here: Talk:Paula_Creamer#2010_Scoring_Average --Crunch (talk) 23:49, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Spieth facebook reference
[edit]What is wrong with having facebook fan page as external link? there is alot of information there.
- It's not an appropriate external link, see WP:ELNO. Tewapack (talk) 04:24, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
5-25-10 Got it, thanks. ccirulli —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccirulli (talk • contribs) 02:21, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
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Sorry
[edit]I am sorry for improperly organizing some of the major championship tables. I didn't realize that they were organized by decade and I was formatting them based on aesthetic appeal only. Organizing by decade makes more sense though. FunBob1986 (talk) 06:18, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
List articles of women major champions
[edit]Go and look at these and make any corrections that you deem necessary!BLUEDOGTN 17:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Autoreviewer
[edit]I would be glad to nominate you for this permission if you want me to do so.18:03, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Help me?
[edit]What is the names of the major championship trophies of the LPGA Championship and the Kraft Nabisco Championship?BLUEDOGTN 02:46, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
- Kraft Nabisco Championship = The Dinah Shore Trophy [7], - that name is also used for a college golf award.
LPGA Championship = ? Tewapack (talk) 03:21, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
See if there's anything I missed in creating this article! thanks.BLUEDOGTN 00:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Hello Tewapack, I have this article up for FLC nomination, which means you need to look at it and make a comment if you want to do so. I have to thank you on finding the source for the trophy!BLUEDOGTN 23:10, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
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Ko Olina Senior Invitational
[edit]Tewapack, I've started a discussion at Talk:Ko Olina Senior Invitational. Perhaps you would like to add your two cents? --Travis Thurston+ 00:11, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Dutch Senior Open
[edit]HI, You have changed the title of the Dutch Senior Open into Van Lanschot Senior Open and rewritten the contence. In the Netherlands the officially approved title is Dutch Senior Open, Van Lanschot is the title holder for this tournament and for the next two years. We condider it to be the 5th edition of the Dutch Senior Open, not the 1st or 6th, as we dont count the Belgian tournament.
The mere fact that the European Tour website mentions this as a new tournament doesnt make it right, If you want to make some correct adjustments (also wrong in the Eur.Tour website): Crayestein is in Dordrecht, Prise d'Eau in Tilburg and Efteling is in Loon op Zand. Pvt pauline (talk) 12:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
We can leave the leaderboard
[edit]Article is marked as current event that rapidly changes. People may want to see leaderboard at current state. Suspension of round is clearly marked and easy to understand. Plus that chart takes alot of time to make. Please don't revert. I'm an active user who contributes fairly. Just leave it alone. --Airtuna08 (talk) 21:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
As requested
[edit]User:Tewapack/Anne Quast--Scott Mac 08:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
- I've added some references and put it back. Hallucegenia (talk) 12:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
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Tiger Woods
[edit]What's up with the ISBN numbers in the Tiger Woods article? I mean editors removing and reinserting them Wlmg (talk) 18:46, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Why removing "none" in College field in golfer infobox?
[edit]I understand the logic in not putting in "none" for null values. On the other hand, I think it's useful to note which players did not attend college. --Crunch (talk) 14:16, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Yearly tournament articles for non-major/WGC events
[edit]You input would be much appreciated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Players Championship. Regards, wjematherbigissue 08:07, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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Top foo male golfer navboxes
[edit]Hi, I have nominated these navboxes for deletion. Please see discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 August 5#Top foo male golfers. As always, your input would be much appreciated. Regards, wjematherbigissue 19:12, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
PGA Tour Exemptions
[edit]Greetings Tewapack
Left you a comment here -- User_talk:Tewapack/2010_PGA_Tour_Exemptions
Thanx-A-Lot, Frank Fgf2007 (talk) 21:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey
[edit]What do the first two rows mean on your chart here? I like it! And what's your take on the Dustin Johnson rule yesterday? I actually picked Kaymer to win the thing based on his performances in majors this year and Whistling being a European-esk course. --Airtuna08 (talk) 20:23, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- ib = has an Template:Infobox golfer, mr = has a "Results in major championships" section or partial results in infobox. Tewapack (talk) 20:26, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Hee Kyung Seo
[edit]Seo's Kia win this year is an official LPGA win. Just as were Ji Yai Shin's 3 victories in 2008 before she became an LPGA member.(The same applies to wins by Shi Hyun Ahn in 2003, Jee Young Lee in 2005, Jin Joo Hong in 2006 etc) It counts towards her career LPGA victory total. Should Seo play the LPGA, her win counts towards qualifying for the LPGA Hall of Fame. It is only unofficial so far as the Rolex wins go.
In fact look at the total wins Shin has in the 2010 LPGA Tour article. It is 7, not 4. If we're giving it the Seo treatment, it would be 4.
The LPGA rules are convoluted, as I should well know. Before 2009, I was the only blogger credentialed to cover an LPGA Tournament. Did it twice in fact.William 01:17, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Question about Robin Freeman
[edit]You seem to be really knowledgeable about golf. I am not, but I work on the Wikipedia Project:College Basketball and will soon be creating a page for Robin Freeman, a two-time basketball All-American at Ohio State. Here is my question - how notable is the golfer Robin Freeman? The basketball player's career is long over and he never played in the NBA - so if the golfer is more notable or looks like he COULD be more notable down the road I have no problem naming the article "Robin Freeman (basketball)." I just don't follow golf, so I had no clue which one should be the default "Robin Freeman." Interested in your thoughts. Rikster2 (talk) 20:34, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- The golfer won twice on the Nationwide Tour and played full-time on the PGA Tour but never won there, so he is notable enough for an article. More noteworthy than the basketball player - I don't know. Probably the best solution is for me to create Robin Freeman (golfer) (which is on my list of things to do), you to create Robin Freeman (basketball) and one of us to create a disamb. page with both listed. Tewapack (talk) 20:49, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just created the basketball article and the Disamb. page. Thanks! Rikster2 (talk) 01:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
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What do you think about the article? What do you thinkg about splitting the sections in subsections like SandboxEvert?BLUEDOGTN 18:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Request for Admin?
[edit]I am going to nominate you for this distinguished authority on wikipedia if you would like me to do so! I think personally you have the knowledge and trust in order for me to do this on your behalf. I have always loved editing on here with you. So, give me your response back soon, which can simply be either be just a simple yes or no? Thanks, your long-time editing friendBLUEDOGTN 05:38, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- If you ever do change your mind in the future, and would like to be an admin one day just contact me via my talk page. I don't need a message back to this response. Thanks your friend.BLUEDOGTN 19:11, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello Tewapack, I have had some great advice on here from you, and I thank you for all that information. I have loved my time spent on here with you, but I will be leaving Wikipedia forever on 04:00 1 October 2010, in order to find my new purpose in life. I used to have a major passion for this place but it has all but fizzled, which I cannot rekindle it anylonger. I wish you all the best, and most of all Faith, Hope, Love, and Peace, which the greatest of these is LOVE. Peace out!BLUEDOGTN 05:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Steve Melnyk
[edit]Tewapack, a couple of years ago, you created the Steve Melnyk article. I just upgraded the article to include the standard Infobox Golfer, but I cannot find sources for Melnyk's best PGA and US Open finishes. You being the golf expert, I was hoping you could provide a comprehensive on-line source for PGA Tour results, or at least for the majors, so I could complete the information required for the infobox. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:25, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- http://www.golfobserver.com/golfstats.php for both PGA Tour (1970+) and separately for the majors (most years). Tewapack (talk) 02:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you, sir. I will try to use my new golf source for good! Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Height
[edit]This template should now be fixed. Thanks for finding the problem. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- How about now? Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 06:47, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Major Championships
[edit]Tewapack - OWGR calls them Major Championships, so I don't know how much more "official" you can get. Either way, the main reason I put that in is that the page is named incorrectly. I put a note on the discussion a year ago, and a discussion in WT:GOLF, yet the only person who responded was wjemather, mostly just to say "we need to have a discussion" (after reverting the move) or that I did the merge incorrectly. According to Wikipedia policy, "misleading or incorrect names" should be changed. Considering - officially - they are not men's events, they should not be labeled as such. Also, the term golf is normally (by normally, I mean almost never in any golf related articles, but maybe outside of golf related articles) used either. I still think the terms should redirect of course in case someone is searching for that, but the page as it is named is factually incorrect and - at least to me - redundant. Would you object if instead of "officially" I put "commonly"? Starwrath (talk) 01:53, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I was also going to add a qualification section to the article, which would, among other things, state that: "Similar to other major sporting events and leagues, there is no rule prohibiting women from playing. While no women has successfully qualified, some have tried, such as Michelle Wie (ref). Also, women have competed in the U.S. Amateur Championship, which as at one point considered a major, although they did not compete during the same period." - or something to that effect. Given the articles current name, the above sentence would make absolutely no sense, as using the term "men's" in regard to sporting events does actually prohibit women from playing (and vice versa). Starwrath (talk) 02:15, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
To write it was 'a single-vehicle accident' is very vague and makes little sense. It was an act of domestic violence. So what's wrong with the description? ᴳᴿᴲᴳᴼᴿᴵᴷ☺ᶤᶯᵈᶸᶩᶢᵉ 21:28, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
- Show me a credible source that says it was domestic violence, not just speculation that it might have been. We know it was 'a single-vehicle accident', that is it. Tewapack (talk) 23:19, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
I had created the two new categories under Category:Men's major golf championship stubs. These had been appropriately approved by the stub sorting project as new categories for stub templates that had grown significantly large. If there is justifiable reason to keep all four templates together in one category, please post your reasons, and allow for discussion here before reverting my changes. Dawynn (talk) 12:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Page Dunlap
[edit]Tewapack, I cured a glaring omission in the on-line history of the Florida Gators golf program earlier today by creating a new "Page Dunlap" article. Given your greater expertise in golf matters and related on-line references, I would be grateful if you would take a look-see at it and see what additional substance and references you think should be added.
Dunlap was a big-time prodigy at Florida back in the 1980s, when she was a member of the Lady Gators' back-to-back NCAA championships teams in 1985 and 1986, and was the individual NCAA champion in 1986. She apparently had a decent run on the Futures Tour, but just never amounted to much on the LPGA Tour. Nevertheless, she had an impressive run in NCAA competition, and seems notable enough to deserve a little wiki love. The article is currently light on her Futures Tour stint and good references for her LPGA tenure. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:34, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Laura Brown (golfer)
[edit]Tewapack, we need to give this poor woman a proper infobox. What should we do: (1) Infobox golfer; or (2) Infobox college coach? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Give this page a once over, Please!BLUEDOGTN 00:40, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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