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What you are doing is not appropriate. Only cowards act like this my friend (I am not insulting you). You have not done anything wrong. So why should you go? I know you are desperate but is that helping you? Please come back. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)02:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
If you really like us, come back. Please. I know i am trying blackmail you emotionally but i don't care if this can bring you back because we love you Axel. You are very dear to all of us. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)19:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Removed personal attacks...
I have removed a long diatribe from your userpage where you personally attacked several other editors, per WP:POLEMIC. I understand that you are upset about some things that happened recently; I truly wish that you come back soon to edit Wikipedia. You are a valuable contributor to Wikipedia, and it would be good to see you back making Wikipedia better. Remember that there are thousands of people here who aren't trying to bother you. If you do decide to come back, however, please don't raise the level of heat by posting things like you did on your userpage. Thank you. --Jayron3201:23, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
He didn't insult anyone. What he did was to place link to what people called him, not what he called them. --Lecen (talk) 01:34, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Please read WP:POLEMIC. You may not maintain such information in one's userspace; you don't have to call it an attack if you don't want. The word isn't important. It is inappropriate to maintain such information in one's userspace. --Jayron3202:02, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're doing, Tbhotch, but there's really no need to name any editors, esp. if you are simply providing diffs for your "statement". Especially the "Sandra" thing absolutely needs to go, as the editor has made it clear that she does not want you to call her that: and to leave that there is certainly fueling the fire. What's going on? Why is everybody melting down over this nonsense? Doctalk02:36, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
I removed the "Sandra" name. There is not, in the entire text, a single insult to another editor. In case someone doubts, I volunteer myself to translate the entire text to English. --Lecen (talk) 03:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Let me spell this out simpler. You should not be maintaining, in your userspace, descriptions of who has wronged you and ways in which they have wronged you. That type of thing is not allowed, per WP:POLEMIC. The below, in Spanish or English, with or without calling people "perra", is mostly a list of people who have wronged you, and how they have wronged you. That is not allowed. If you want to maintain such a list, keep it on your personal computer. Wikipedia userpages are not the place for it. That has been, is now, and will continue to be the sole and complete reason for its removal. To Tbhotch and to others defending the text: That you claim it was removed for a different reason does not make it so. It was removed because it violates the policy at WP:POLEMIC, which says, in part, "Users should generally not maintain in public view negative information related to others without very good reason. Negative evidence, laundry lists of wrongs, collations of diffs and criticisms related to problems, etc., should be removed, blanked, or kept privately" (bolding mine). To Tbhotch specifically, I still meant what I said above, you are a good user and you will be missed if you let such a minor, unimportant, and inconsequential kerfuffle send you off of Wikipedia. You should be at Wikipedia, improving articles. But you should not be creating large walls of text itemizing who has wronged you and what they have done to wrong you. --Jayron3203:26, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
As you can see, this comments are only my 2 cents over this, most of the comments are not attacks, and most of them are the reason why I am retiring. It would have no sense to censor me when there are many unharmful phrases. Wikipedia is not censored, Malleus F is not censored, why I should be? I am going to remove from my userpage the green parts as are "persona attacks", but it will have nonsense to censor all, especially because Sandy is "affected" by minor uncivilities.
If you don't trust my translation you can trust Sandy and her [unknown] Spanish or you can trust editors whose Spanish is maternal. Some are User:AlexCovarrubias, User:Thelmadatter, User:nsaum75, or anyone that is not involved on this, the result will be the same I'm posting here. If there are other "attacks" "uncivil" or "polemic" comments use the {{rpa}} tag, not a full deletion. I am posting here my last comment, if you want to edit-war in my own space any admin can full protect the page. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.03:13, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
{{rpa}} is for personal attacks. You are correct in saying that much of that material is not personal attacks; however, it is in contravention of WP:UP#POLEMIC. Please do not restore it, as I'd prefer to avoid anyone being blocked over this. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:25, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Nikkimaria, I saw you practically beg Kaldari not to block MF but in here, you're quite ready to threaten anyone with block. MF can insult people anytime he wants and not be blocked, but Tbhotch can't complain about the world on his user page? And you use Wikipedia policies to base your action? But Wikipedia policies can be ignored in the case of MF? Please, explain to me why there are double standards. --Lecen (talk) 03:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm not threatening anyone with a block, I'm too involved. My point is only that blocks are a potential outcome of restoring polemical material. I also never said that policies don't apply to MF. What I said was that his behaviour didn't warrant a block, and that if it had then so would Tbhotch's. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your help!
Hi there. I'm not aware of all the ins and outs of why you decided to retire from Wikipedia, however, The Human Centipde article will miss your helpful contributions. Sure, it's about a horrible horrible film, but your edits helped to keep it to a high standard and helped the article to become a featured article. A Dr. Heiter Award is in the post!
I hope you find something else that's fun to do that helps you practice and develop your english (which is brilliant by the way!) Good luck in the future! cya! Coolug (talk) 11:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, thank you for your contributions to The Human Centipede (First Sequence). When the article was first started in October 2009 is was but a tiny stub that was immediately tagged for deletion, but thanks to the efforts of wikipedia editors that tiny acorn has grown into a great oak tree of an article. The Human Centipede (First Sequence) is now a Featured Article and on the 17th June 2010 the article received its 1,000,000th page view! The article routinely receives over five thousand views a day and is in the top 1,000 most viewed Wikipedia articles!
The Dr. Heiter Award was created to reward editors who have made positive contributions to the article. It can be presented by any wikipedia user to anyone who has helped the article grow. This might be by adding new content, fixing any errors or reverting vandalism.
My friend, as you know, Beyonce's new album 4 is being handled in a catastrophic way (i do not know if this is a correct word). Please voice your opinion here so that we can decide which format will suit "Party" that best. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫)15:31, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Awesome work you did there boy. You improved the page very well. I noted that you changed the {{Reflist|2}} for a 3. As far as I know many people (not my case) see columns, and having three of them is not approved for all. To all the users who want me back, I only can say that it won't happen soon, but you can still seeing me here. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.19:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
★*★*★*★*★*★*★*★* Merry Christmas And Happy New Year 2012*★*★*★*★*★*★*★*★
I Wish You And Your Family A Merry Christmas And A Happy New Year 2012. May The New Year Bring Much Happiness, Prosperity, Peace, And Success In Your Life. I Am Very Happy To be Part of Wikipedia And To Have Great Friends Like You. Cheers.
I hope so. Lol. So happy. I have finished paraphrasing the controversies, composition, and critical reception of "Halo". We ca nominate it this week? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 05:56, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Gwen Stefani articles
Hello
I know I'm not very active any more but I just stuck my head in and saw about this. You got "Cool" up to GA again. Well done. I'm going to have another bash at Harajuku Lovers Tour and was wondering if you'd like to help get the topic back up to FT status.
I'd help you but I'm not writing content until the future. But as it was pointed at LAMB's FT, the other featured articles (and maybe the GAs that aren't "Cool") need a re-work, after many years of IPs work their featured status isn't featured anymore. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.02:00, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Just a heads up that you do not have to add protection templates to protected pages, because a bot does this automatically. →Στc.10:22, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I already know that (great work with it BTW). But the bot started to run this month (?) and there where many pages that were protected between 27 October and the day it started. Also i noted that there's a problem with the message it's lefting e.g., DUMBot remove the template but not the note. Tbhotch.™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!See terms and conditions.00:52, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, and the invisible comment has been removed from the template the bot uses(see here). As far as I know, DumbBOT removes protection templates, and nothing else. Happy holidays, →Στc.06:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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