User talk:TDKFC2

Film Score & Other Edits

Hello TDK - I was happy to see your question on my Talk page, and it makes more sense to respond here.

You introduced some good points to the Film Score article, but I noted when I removed them that there were multiple errors in the presentation.Let's take a look. Here is your edit:

Rise of Film Composers

According to Terry Teachout’s article, "I head it at the movies," film composers used to be treated as “…second-class figures by the musical establishment.” In other words, they weren’t even respected by their fellow musicians who worked in fields of music other than film.[[CN}} This was true to the extent that Herrmann, who wrote the scores for Citizen Kane and Psycho, and Rozsa, who wrote the score for Ben-Hur, were both respected composers before they entered into the world of film music.[[CN}} After their successful scores for these highly acclaimed films, they struggled to find audiences for their “concert music.”[[CN}} <In fact, film scores were rare until 1927, which is when sound was added to films. Prior to that, a piano would be played as an accompaniment to a film at the theatre in order to add the element of music to the experience.> Therefore, it is quite apparent that this job has always been underappreciated. After all, if you ask the general public to name five movie composers, most of them would be unable to perform this task. Movie music is now more respected, as evidenced by the fact that sales are on the increase. To work in this field, as in all fields associated with the arts, means that the nature of your work is questioned. Is the work of film composers’ art, or is it low brow? This debate is a popular one (Teachout 1). To work in this field means to be invisible to most of your audience so it must take a profound love of one’s work to enjoy composing film scores.

The nature of the composer’s work has evolved from simple instruments to computer generated sound effects and even a hybrid mix sometimes. As this has occurred, film composing has become a more reputable field. It is no longer considered to be a lesser field by other musicians.Italic text

So here are some problems:

1. The correct form for including the ref to Teachout is here: [1].

2. Italics and sources are required as indicated above - I italicized the title that require it. No contractions ("weren't").

3. The section in carats <> is off topic for this edit.

4. The italicized sentence and what follows violates the convention WP:OR by drawing conclusions rather than presenting sourced facts.

5. The section in bold is non-encyclopedia in conception and presentation - "you" in an encyclopedia article; more OR; "ask the public to name 5 composers" - not at all appropriate for an encyclopedia.

6. The last 3 sentences in bold/italic is more OR, drawing conclusions and expressing your POV.

With sources, your edit's first four sentences would work - but after "In fact..." both content and style won't work here.

Hope that's clear. If I have time, perhaps I could put a suggested edit here later. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 07:14, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Quick note (I have to head out for work) - you did a fine job with the re-edit of film score - nice and professional-looking encyclopedia edit. Correct work with the form for the refs. Good job! Sensei48 (talk) 01:12, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me out! I never could have pulled it off without your help! Sincerely, TDK