User talk:Suburbanroadie
WP:PST states that "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources." And interview by the band about itself is not secondary. The band itself isn't notable enough for an article per WP:BAND so it's inclusion in a list would requires reliable sources that are independent of the band itself which this is not. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 14:01, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- You have mistaken the reference as it was changed. You might want to rethink your objective to wikipedia by contributing objectively to the sharing of real world information. Suburbanroadie (talk) 14:05, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- As the notice below states: you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. Do you have any connection to "Legs Electric"? ThaddeusSholto (talk) 14:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- The article referenced has no interview by the band and I have no affiliation with it's author. Read the source. Suburbanroadie (talk) 14:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to contact the author to verify General Enquiries – admin@metal-roos.com.au Suburbanroadie (talk) 14:11, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- The article referenced has no interview by the band and I have no affiliation with it's author. Read the source. Suburbanroadie (talk) 14:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- As the notice below states: you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. Do you have any connection to "Legs Electric"? ThaddeusSholto (talk) 14:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
[edit] Hello, Suburbanroadie. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page List of musical acts from Western Australia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Now I must ask, do you have a conflict of interest with the band "Legs Electric" since you insist on adding them to articles? ThaddeusSholto (talk) 14:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- No, but you are clearly on some kind of crusade and have zero knowledge of the Perth music scene. Suburbanroadie (talk) 14:07, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a directory. The article isn't for listing every band in the Perth music scene but is instead to link articles from notable bands, ideally with articles, that readers can find more information about on Wikipedia. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 14:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have read the Wikipedia references to regarding nontertiary and what Wikipedia is not. The inclusions for Legs Electric is supported by an independent article covering the KISS gig. There are other articles to Legs Electric going back years and as per the article have a solid following. You have lost your objectivity here and are projecting some kind of elitist Wikipedia gatekeeping issue. Ask yourself what value you are adding by continually editing out a staple of the WA music scene. This is a valid edit. You are not the authority on level of notoriety required to be listed in the WA music scene. Suburbanroadie (talk) 15:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Additionally, the band meets several of the criteria listed on the page for eligibility. You need to accept that you are out of your depth here and leave it to the community. Suburbanroadie (talk) 15:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have read the Wikipedia references to regarding nontertiary and what Wikipedia is not. The inclusions for Legs Electric is supported by an independent article covering the KISS gig. There are other articles to Legs Electric going back years and as per the article have a solid following. You have lost your objectivity here and are projecting some kind of elitist Wikipedia gatekeeping issue. Ask yourself what value you are adding by continually editing out a staple of the WA music scene. This is a valid edit. You are not the authority on level of notoriety required to be listed in the WA music scene. Suburbanroadie (talk) 15:16, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a directory. The article isn't for listing every band in the Perth music scene but is instead to link articles from notable bands, ideally with articles, that readers can find more information about on Wikipedia. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 14:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Your account was created today. You aren't "the community". As for casting aspersions on me or my motivations, I am upholding policy. Nothing more or less. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain how the age of my account has anything to do with the reliability of the referenced source? I created my account for credibility and integrity of my edits. I could very easily have made edits anonymously. If you want to contribute positively and uphold policy then build, don't destroy. Add more sources. Validate and update other information on the page. You are also not the community and you should not be gatekeeping topics that you are il-equipped to uphold policy for. It's easy to click undo on a legitimate contribution than to put the hard yards in. Yes, the original reference was inadequate, but it has been updated accordingly. Suburbanroadie (talk) 15:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Your account was created today. You aren't "the community". As for casting aspersions on me or my motivations, I am upholding policy. Nothing more or less. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 15:28, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- I never claimed the age of your account had any bearing on the reliability of sources. I very clearly said the age of your account shows you aren't "the community" since you demanded I recuse myself and leave it "to the community". Please familiarize yourself with WP:AGF and ease back on the accusations. ThaddeusSholto (talk) 15:43, 17 January 2024 (UTC)