User talk:StrangerMan123

May 2024

Hey StrangerMan123, I'm TheDarkEnforcer. You recently removed an edit that I made to the match card of Backlash France noting that the 1st match was changed on the fly by Nick Aldis.

The edit and note I made are in line with the evolving history of the Backlash France PLE. I hereby sincerely request that you refrain from removing my edits without discussing with me first.

August 2020

Hello, I'm TribunalMan. An edit that you recently made to SummerSlam (2020) seemed to be a test and has been removed. If you want to practice editing, please use your sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! TribunalMan (talk) 22:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

October 2020

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Hell in a Cell (2020), without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Snowycats (talk) 05:25, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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For changing SummerSlam Poster I think that poster is cropped but there is major difference between that posters so again sorry for the change King Rudra 07:21, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

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January 2023

Hi, StrangerMan123. I've been reading the past news regarding wrestling and I am so excited for Sasha Banks' (Mercedes Mone) future there. How about you?

Also, I like WWE, but there are a few things I hate about the promotion, such as:

• The awful booking decisions they make most of the time
• The name changes then-Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon issued throughout 2022, changing the names of talent like Walter (Gunther), Pete Dunne (Butch), Raquel González (Raquel Rodriguez), Raul Mendoza (Cruz Del Toro), Kay Lee Ray (Alba Fyre), and more.
• Above all else, the awful ending to the Hell in a Cell match between Seth Rollins and "The Fiend" Bray Wyatt at the 2019 Hell in a Cell event, where fans chanted "AEW", "Restart the match", "Refunds", and more negative things.

GodofDemonwars (talk) 17:53, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey GodofDemonwars, sorry for taking so long, I'm really really excited to see what's next for Mercedes now, WWE treated her really badly, she deserved so much more. About the horrible WWE booking, it really was too painful to watch this, I even considered stopping watching but after HHH took control of criative, things got better, he is not the best booker of all time, but For those who had Vince in there anyone would be better haha but i won't lie i'm scared now that he's back he'll try to mess with the booking again, let's hope that don't. About the names I also hate it, the one that pisses me off the most is Butch, for God's sake, why don't they go back to Pete Dunne soon? this name is lame and awful. And about Seth vs. Fiend at Hell in a Cell 2019, man, I won't deny that I really enjoyed that match, but they screwed up at the end, that was one of the worst things I've ever seen in WWE, and I've seen A LOT of horrible things haha. Thank you sending these messages friend, good night. StrangerMan123 (talk) 03:13, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Tag team names and handling yourself on Wikipedia

Please refrain from using unnecessary and childish words like "King of Wikipedia" in reference to other editors who are trying to improve the quality of the articles. Remember, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fan Wiki where you can just add any trivial information you want. We want these articles to look and read professionally, not look and read like a fan page.

As for team names, yes, as a tag team (as in two people), Matt and Nick Jackson are The Young Bucks, but in these particular instances, we are referring to them as a trio team (three people) with Kenny Omega, and their trio team name is The Elite. Including "Kenny Omega", "The Young Bucks", and then also both Matt and Nick Jackson is information overkill for an already crowded info box. It also adds a double parenthesis (or parenthesis within parenthesis), which we should avoid using. Now in the intro for The Elite article, we can list them as Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson) because we are spelling out who all composes The Elite (without all of them being within a parenthesis) and it doesn't have the issues that become present in the other articles, like Holiday Bash (2022). This extends to The Bloodline and The Usos or any other tag team within a larger team when referring to the larger team as a whole.

One other note, let's say the intro for Kenny Omega's article said he worked for WWE and it was like that for months, but then someone came along and corrected it to AEW. Are you going to go and revert them because "it was like that for months" and they're the "only one" trying to change it? That's the exact card you're trying to pull on me here. Something being on an article for months doesn't mean it's perfect and can't be improved, and sometimes all it takes is for one editor to notice it. JDC808 ♫ 01:29, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey man, thanks for reaching out to me, first I want to apologize for what I said, I was kind of upset about some things that day, and after Jay Briscoe died I was even more, so sorry about that, I know you are just trying to improve the quality of the articles here. Second, you're right, that way it's better to read, after all, the three of them together are The Elite, it's unnecessary to put Matt and Nick's tag name. So sorry JDC808, I don't want any problems with you or anyone here haha ​​after all, we're just editors wanting to improve and put information around here to improve the quality of the articles no? So again, I'm sorry, have a nice day man. StrangerMan123 (talk) 02:51, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

It's easy to get heated and it happens to the best of us. You just gotta try to maintain a level head. I knew of the Briscoes but never really saw them perform, so I didn't have any connection to them, but Jay's death is sad. It would have been interesting to see them on AEW TV had WB not blocked them. JDC808 ♫ 04:13, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks man, but sorry again, i shouldn't said that to you, and also, i met the Briscoes not too long ago, but their match against FTR ar Final Battle was one of the best tag matches i've ever seen, seeing them wrestling in AEW would be great, it's really sad that WB banned them from there, too bad it's unfortunately impossible now... StrangerMan123 (talk) 05:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Brock Lesnar

I've added a reference from a reliable source to verify Brock is indeed a Raw guy.

He may not have it on his official bio, but that's why we also have a list of reliable sources we can turn to if there's any confusion.

Not trying to go tit for tat or cause a ruckus, but I thought this was something already established.

No big deal at the end of the day, as that's why we have references to back us up. Vjmlhds (talk) 15:31, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey man, I know you're not trying to cause a ruckus or anything haha ​​i'm not either, but that's ok, I was really wondering if we should follow kayfabe, which is him being a free agent, or follow what this is internally, with him being from Raw, but anyway, thanks for sending a message here. StrangerMan123 (talk) 19:40, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Truthfully, the "free agent" stuff just kinda quietly faded away under HHH, and Brock's been on Raw all throughout the HHH era. Vjmlhds (talk) 19:41, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

That's true, that free agent thing went away after HHH took creative control, that pretty much confirms he's from RAW, but that's it so, thanks man. StrangerMan123 (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

February 2023

It's me again. I really want to thank you for contributing to the recent WWE livestreaming events, especially for NXT Vengeance Day (2023). I'm really hyped for WrestleMania 39 in Inglewood, California. How about you?

Also, I know that recently, random IP addresses put wrestlers' old ring names or team names together with the new ones in those recent articles, like for The Dyad and Alba Fyre, and you find them annoying. I think they should check WP: Not Broken before they do so. Ready for Elimination Chamber in two weeks' time? GodofDemonwars (talk) 11:16, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Hey man, no need to thank me really, but thanks anyway man, i'm really looking forward to Mania 39, i hope it's a good event with great matches.

About the names, i even understand that some new editors or random ips put the old names because they don't know about WP:NOT BROKEN, but what annoyes me is because I always explain, and even so many continue, please, just see the edit summary. About Elimination Chamber, i'm really looking forward to it, especially for Roman vs Sami, i really want Sami to win, even though i know that probably won't happen, and honestly, in my opinion, this match should happen at WrestleMania 39. StrangerMan123 (talk) 20:24, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

I honestly can't believe that other accounts are removing Vince McMahon not being involved in booking WrestleMania 39 at the titular article. I believe they should either be blocked indefinitely, or that article needs to be semi-protected again. What do you think? GodofDemonwars (talk) 18:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

I agree with you, and I think the best would be to semi-protect the page again, because if not other random ips will continue to do this, let's see if now that random ip stops. StrangerMan123 (talk) 18:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

He deserved to be blocked for 4 years. I hope this is the last we will see of the removing of Vince's status of booking WrestleMania... GodofDemonwars (talk) 22:47, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

He deserved it a lot, now he's only going to be a nuisance here, if he decides to come back, around Mania 43 haha ​​but we have the other ip too, he was only blocked for 1 week, it's quite possible he'll come back when his blocking ends, I hope i'm wrong. StrangerMan123 (talk) 22:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Sources

As you may know, everything in Wikipedia has to be sourced. The source just mentions Rhodes and reigns, not Heyman. He didn't appear in the picture either. So, if you want Heyman to be included, find a source stating he is going to be in the ringside with reigns. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 04:06, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

And why don't you look for a source a source too? because it has to be just ME. Since you probably don't watch the weekly shows, don't worry, I'll put a source in since no one else does. StrangerMan123 (talk) 04:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I watch the shows and I like the storyline. But it doesn't mean I can break the rules. Everything has to be sourced and the WWE.com doesn't mention Heyman. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:22, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

March 2023

I just undid various edits that User:2001:b011:e010:92cf:5c9c:af7c:d62f:7446 did at the article WrestleMania 39. GodofDemonwars (talk) 14:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that, thanks for reverting, I don't understand what this random ip wanted to do. StrangerMan123 (talk) 16:09, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

A few minutes ago, I modified the articles NXT In Your House (2022) and Worlds Collide (2022) by not only archiving some citations, but doing the same thing you did to the article NXT Vengeance Day (2023): adding WWE.com's recap of the event next to the match stipulations. For the former two articles, the links only showed the previews of the matches. I'll do the same to other NXT special events soon. GodofDemonwars (talk) 00:09, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks man, since you got here you've become one of the most active editors, good to know you're doing this, really, you're doing a great job. StrangerMan123 (talk) 00:58, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

By the way, recently, I've been interested about some WWE Championship matches. For example, pretty much every news article that covers the article SummerSlam (2021) criticized the Bobby Lashley vs. Goldberg match. They all agree that the ending appeared to set up a rematch that no one wanted to see. Go check that article out if you have the time. I made significant improvements there. I also believe that User:JDC808 would like to check it out for himself. GodofDemonwars (talk) 18:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Hey man, not going to lie I wasn't interested in that Goldberg vs Lashley match at all, but when they announced a stipulation they had my attention, but I still expected a little more from the match. All the respect in the world to Goldberg, a wrestling legend, but I can't get excited about Goldberg, I hope he doesn't come back to WWE, but I appreciate everything he's done in wrestling. About the article, everything is great, the only thing I reversed was the stipulation, on the SmackDown before SummerSlam Roman said that he would leave the arena with the belt, or he would leave WWE. StrangerMan123 (talk) 21:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

The thing is, User:JDC808 made some tweaks to the article, but there is a source in lead. There should be no sources in lead. GodofDemonwars (talk) 01:19, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@GodofDemonwars to clarify about no sources in the lead. There is an exception, and that is if that information is not found anywhere in the body of the article (that was the case here, but I made a fix). Ideally, that shouldn't happen but it can if that info doesn't really have a place in the article itself. The only other time might be with a direct quote. JDC808 ♫ 01:40, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

JDC808 already solved this, I ended up not even noticing that there was a source in the lead, but as already JDC808 explained, if the information does not appear in the body of the article, then a source can be placed in the lead, I really did not know that, good to know. StrangerMan123 (talk) 03:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

I just undid various and unnecessary edits some random IP addresses made at the articles Crown Jewel (2021), WrestleMania 38, WrestleMania Backlash (2022), and Survivor Series (2021). GodofDemonwars (talk) 22:05, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes I saw it, thanks for reverting it, I also fixed some things that were missed, I hope that random ip doesn't come back. StrangerMan123 (talk) 03:22, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Me, you, and User:JDC808 did a great job on the updates at WrestleMania 39. With the recent announcement of the Undisputed WWE Tag Team Championship match, I modified the previous three pay-per-view wiki articles (up until Survivor Series WarGames). Hope I did a good job... GodofDemonwars (talk) 10:03, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks man, I saw your edits and you did a great job, thanks. StrangerMan123 (talk) 03:17, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

With the announcement of Rey Mysterio vs. Dominik Mysterio, I also modified the Aftermath sections for the articles Royal Rumble (2023) and WWE Clash at the Castle. I believe I did a great job with them, and I think User:JDC808 will be pleased to see those improvements. GodofDemonwars (talk) 01:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

You really did a good job on the articles, thanks man, keep it going StrangerMan123 (talk) 04:39, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

June 2023

How are you so quick at editing WWE pages I can never do it myself it's so annoying lol, all jokes aside, appreciate what you do! YoloMc8562 (talk) 01:40, June 27, 2023 (BST)

Manual of Style

Per our Manual of Style, "The background should only summarize important events that enhanced the rivalry, such as key segments or matches that took place on television shows or pay-per-view events. Since professional wresting is a work of recorded media, Wikipedia's plot guideline should be adhered to; do not write in-depth or weekly results when describing a rivalry." Please, avoid a in-deep coverage of every weekly event. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:10, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I know man, i agree, weekly events should not be putted unless notable, but in this case it's otherwise, what it's really unescessary would be to put everything that happened, with details, like putting that Paul attacked Rollins after that, everything that Rollins and Paul said, in that case, if Rollins had not called Paul to appear, the match would not would happen, that was a key segment. StrangerMan123 (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The event isn't notable. Notable thing, Logan accepting the match. No notable, Rollins saying they are going to facer each other next week. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The only reason Paul showed up was because Rollins called him, if Rollins didn't have the call, the match wouldn't even be happening StrangerMan123 (talk) 18:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

No, he showed up because WWE said so. It's not a key element of the storyline. Logan eliminating Rollins, important. Rollins talking trash, important. Rollins saying "see you next week", no. Logan accepting the challenge, important. The storyline without the call out it's the same. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 18:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I even undid the revision one time before HHH could do so. I saw it coming. GodofDemonwars (talk) 18:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

I realized this, I really don't understand why you guys want to remove this so much, a segment that is necessary. StrangerMan123 (talk) 18:26, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

But in the storyline (which is the section we're talking about) Rollins asked Paul to appear next week, and he accepted so that was indeed a key segment, how is it not? StrangerMan123 (talk) 18:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Gotta agree with HHH Pedrigree and GodofDemonwars here...Rollins and Paul having the face to face encounter - important. Rollins and Paul setting up the face to face meeting - not so much. Not every little bit of minutiae has to be included. Keep it pithy and easy to digest...we're not writing "War and Peace" here. Vjmlhds (talk) 18:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

At least you answer, not ignored me like the others, but if three editors agree, who am I to disagree haha but seriously, i don't want this to turn into an argument, and I know neither do you guys, so let's just wrap it up here now, leave it the way you guys think it's better then. If this continues, we'll spend the night removing it and reverting it, and I think we can all agree that it's unnecessary, have a nice day man. StrangerMan123 (talk) 18:52, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

All good. Grand scheme of things, not that big of a deal, but I can see their point - skip the lettuce, and get to the cheeseburger. Vjmlhds (talk) 00:08, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

I understand your point, all of you, go straight to the point without too much detail, i understand now, i won't be reversing that anymore, thanks man. StrangerMan123 (talk) 00:55, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

SummerSlam

So, I'm modifying the past SummerSlam articles, adding a detailed recap of each event in the article's event section, and changing the formatting to the one you see here. I'm doing the same to the other SummerSlam articles, and User:JDC808 will be pleased to hear this. GodofDemonwars (talk) 01:50, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks man, we all appreciate it. StrangerMan123 (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Rollins vs Omos

I was going to explain this in an edit summary but you reverted it before I could make my edit with the explanation. The Storylines section is for storylines that led to a match. This match has no storyline, thus there is nothing to write about. The date confirming a random match without any reason for the match is not important here. Now if tomorrow night on Raw they give us an explanation for this random match, then we can add it right back but there's currently nothing to write about it right now. JDC808 ♫ 03:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

I understand, there is no point for this match to happen, I have no doubt that it's Vince who recently returned and could very well have booked the match, just saying haha. But seriously, I understand your point, I just thought it should be mentioned when the match was announced, while it doesn't have a storyline, which should begin tomorrow, we hope at least don't we? I don't even think you're wrong, I just decided to explain my reason, but it was just an explanation, I won't revert anymore. Nothing to do with the subject, just saying that I understand what you said about not having to mention SmackDown since the triple threat is a Raw match, anyway, I don't want a discussion with you, it was a mistake of mine, and I think there's nothing wrong with making mistakes, we are learning from these mistakes. Anyway, thanks for coming to my talk page, sorry for any inconvenience. StrangerMan123 (talk) 03:36, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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Prominent matches

I have a question. Do you have any sources pointing these matches are "prominent"? The card has a few matches, like 6 and you are highlighting 5 of them. How is the world every match of the card is prominent? Looks more like choosen by editors instead of sources. The Battleground has 6 matches, you are calling 4 of them "prominent". Whats the difference between them and the other 2, the NXT Tag Team and the Heritage Cup? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:20, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

I understand your point, but first, it wasn't me who put these matches as prominent matches, it was another editor, and I just reverted because as I told you, this was always placed at the beginning of articles. Another thing, the first match of the card is always mentioned too. About the prominent matches, the defense of the Women's Championship must be a prominent one, because we are talking about the main NXT women's belt. Now Dragunov vs. Dijak was a great match, but she might be up for debate as to whether or not she was prominent. Anyway, this is something we did since the old articles, always put like this, I don't understand why it's being removed. StrangerMan123 (talk) 15:35, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Written something because "we always write in such way" doesn't mean is right. The point is that this is your opinion. "The women's title is top title", "the dragunov dijak was great". I mean, everyone can include his favourite match. The Stevenson match was his debut, the other match had a stipulation. As Syndrome said "With everyone super, no one will be". If every match on the card is "prominent", no one is. I would include only the main event (the final match) and prominent matches with source. For example, Savage Steamboat of WM 3, Hogan Rock in WM X8. But no every title match or match with stipulation. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:45, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

As i already said it, another editor published this, other editor made c/e over there, and i just removed the Roxanne vs. Blair match, but i put it there the same way that it was before, so it shows that I'm not the only one who doesn't see a problem with these matches mentioned at the beginning of the article and it's not even me who put it first, but as i saying understanding your point on that, and i will explain my main reason above. Also, Gable Stevenson must be mentioned, because that is not an opinion, the debut of an Olympic medalist which has been promoted to debut for quite some time and finally make his debut is notable, so i putting that back there. And my problem, I think the main one, is the inconsistency, one article mentions the prominent matches, the following one also mentions it, but that article doesn't mention it, and why? the main problem for me to be honest is more the fact that it is practically mentioned in all articles, but not on this one, and I don't understand, if it's removed there, it should be removed in all the others, but I also don't think it's right for it to be removed without being discussed, i mean, this is in other articles, for years i think, and it's removed now? i don't see it right. But the point is just one article, and because of the reasons i mentioned, i think it should be there. StrangerMan123 (talk) 03:29, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

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You were right

You were right.

I made a mistake in counting Sheamus twice (listed both in the results box and in the note below).

Good catch. Vjmlhds (talk) 03:47, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Hey thanks, I was really thinking that might be it, Sheamus name appearing twice there haha ​​as it actually was, anyway, not a big thing, this happens sometimes, good night. StrangerMan123 (talk) 04:25, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

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Crown Jewel 2023

come on bro, I was about to add Drew Vs. Seth 😭😭😭 WrestleLuxury Wiki (talk) 00:18, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Haha sorry man, but anyway, i just hope this match will be awesome. StrangerMan123 (talk) 00:36, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

"don't know why I edit storylines anymore"

You've said you don't take it personally, but when you make comments like this section title, you're taking it personally because you don't like that something you did got changed. This is the nature of Wikipedia. Someone can make an edit and someone else can come along and see how they can improve it (which may include cutting some content). In one of your other edit summaries, you said you're not the best at certain things in editing, so instead of getting upset that something you did got changed, you should look at that and see how to improve your own editing. I am not saying you have to agree with everything I or any other editor does. JDC808 ♫ 01:05, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Look, I don't want to start a argument with you, i don't even wanted to aswer this tbh, but anyway. I'm not taking it personally, I already said it, and if you don't believe me that's not my fault, but it's frustrating for me that I wrote things, I formated sources, and just because a single editor thinks it is unnecessary it is removed, it seems like a waste of time indeed, you know it takes time to wrote those things and formate sources. Anyway, but it seems that the one who is taking this personal is you, since you came here on my talk page to talk about this, there is no reason for that. Anyway, and about the part "so instead of getting upset that something you did got changed, you should look at that and see how to improve your own editing", perhaps it's already obvious, not that it's relevant anyway, but my first language is not English, so I made some mistakes, that's why some grammar errors, but it's fixed later, and that's it, i'm not perfect, anybody is perfect, and i don't even see great errors on that, the grammar i get it, i made errors indeed, but some other things, like all that that was removed i don't get it, sometimes all i wrote is rewrited, so for me there's nothing wrong besides the grammar, but anyway, please, i'm not telling you how to edit, so don't tell me how to do this, if this was just a kind of advice, thanks, but if not, i trying to be better every day, just because you don't agree doesn't means that it's not good, sometimes it was not just the grammar, a lot it is and i said the reason, but other times it was all that is rewrited, and a lot of times i don't do nothing because i avoid discussions like this, and also because i don't have problem to said that every time you rewrite some things, it's became bether than what i wrote, you are a 15 years veteran editor, you obviously will edit better than a lot of editors here, and me included, but i don't understand why some things are not just rewrited, but removed, again, it's not personal for me, but it looks that all i edit is meaningless, because i edit and it will not last longer, so seems that it's indeed a waste of time, again, the third time i guess, but it's not personal for me, but please understand that it's fells like a waste of time seeing all that you wrote it's removed just because a editor thinks it's better, again, this is not personnal to me, for real, for me this talk page conversation don't even need to happen, but that's it, not personnal, never will be, already said it too much, that's it, good evening. StrangerMan123 (talk) 01:43, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay, you are not taking it personally but you are getting upset about the changes. Stuff gets removed because it's not necessary because these are summaries, not a detailed explanation of every single thing that happens. This recent example, the feud is between Cassidy and Moxley. Instead of me trying to explain it, I want you to explain to me why that tag team match (or anything else I might have removed) is important to include here. If you can do that and I can't come up with a good counter argument, then it can be added back.

I do want to explain something though. I've been in your shoes where stuff I've written has had to be removed or changed for whatever reasons. Just this past summer, I had God of War Ragnarök reviewed to become a Good Article. During that review process, there were like three or four paragraphs in the Development section that I had to cut down into like one paragraph because the information that I had written over the past 2 to 3 years was just unnecessary or could be summed up in a sentence. I say this to let you know that all editors go through this. Yes, it takes time to write this stuff, but all edits are subject to change. JDC808 ♫ 02:53, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding that it's not personally, for real, and i know that all edits are subject to change, Wikipedia is free for everyone who wants to edit, so my, your, or any user edit can be remove it, i understand that. I know that sometimes we reviewed some things, takes some time to we learn how to properly do this, i know that i am far from being good, but i became a little better since my start here, but i am far from great on this. And sometimes, even ourselves see that our own edits are not good, and review, like yourself said, you rewrited some stuffs that you made at the GOW Ragnarok article (great game btw, i playing right now, not finished yet) for he to became a Good Article, so even our ows edits could be rewrited, i understand, but i not taking this personally, i not have problem with you, and don't want to have, for real. For the Mox/Cassidy feud, alright, maybe the tag match indeed don't have a reason to be there, but i think that the first part, that says about the altercation between BCC and Cassidy should be there, because it was when the rivalry restarted. BCC was there just to ally with Wheeler and Castagnoli after the post-match beatdown by House of Black, Stark, and Big Bill, and then Cassidy, who was entering to defend his championship against John Silver, shoved Mox without any reason, and then an altercation between Cassidy and BCC started. The culmination of this events, led to Cassidy challenging Claudio and Bryan for the tag match (which ok, maybe this could indeed be unnesessary), who led to Claudio vs Cassidy, and led to Cassidy attacking Mox, and leading to the challenge and the match at Full Gear, just that. Just to clarify, i will not edit nothing there, just saying my opinion here about why i think that should be there. StrangerMan123 (talk) 03:24, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

How do you make edits so quick?

Hey man, just wanted to know how you make edits so quick? For example, if there's a no 1 contender match like tonight, seconds after the match has ended you've already updated the page with the match lol. Just curious, anyway, enjoy the show! YoloMc8562 (talk) 02:23, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey man, just practice i guess haha for the storyline part, for example, I always write it before the match is confirmed, just based on the possibilities of matches that could happen, for example, for me it was already obvious that Miz was going to face Gunther, so I wrote the storyline section before, the same with Miz on matchtable, i was thinking that he would indeed win, then i quickly put his name there haha. StrangerMan123 (talk) 02:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough, you're just rapid at it lol. YoloMc8562 (talk) 04:20, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks man haha keep it up the good working StrangerMan123 (talk) 05:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

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What's next for Roman Reigns?

I'm starting to wonder who Roman Reigns' next opponent will be for his Undisputed WWE Universal Championship. I think it will most likely be Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania XL, but what about the Royal Rumble? What if he is forced to defend the championship in the Royal Rumble match, just like in 2016? GodofDemonwars (talk) 20:57, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't believe that Roman will defend the belt in the Royal Rumble match, I think he will defend it against Randy Orton at the event, I even thought it would be Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles, after AJ was attacked by Solo and Jimmy before the tag match with Cena at Fastlane, but apparently it's going to be Randy, and I'd love it if Randy defeat Roman, but I don't believe Roman will lose that belt before WrestleMania, i have doubts that Roman will lose the belt even at WrestleMania to be honest, especially with Hulk Hogan's record soon to be breaked in September if i not wrong. About the Rumble match, my guess is that Cody Rhodes maybe will won it again, or maybe CM Punk after the return and set a match against Seth Rollins at WM XL, another name that i thinked was Gunther, already saw some rumors that he could be winning the Rumble to face Rollins at Mania but i not so sure about it, but would love it. StrangerMan123 (talk) 02:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

I honestly think that when Roman Reigns defends the Undisputed WWE Universal Championship against Cody Rhodes (likely) at WM XL, that match needs to have a few stipulations. I think that it should be a Hell in a Cell match, the loser will be forced to retire from professional wrestling, and if anyone interferes in the match on Reigns' behalf, Rhodes would automatically win the championship. GodofDemonwars (talk) 12:10, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

WrestleMania XL edits - Rollins vs Cody

I understand Cody didn't choose Roman and there's only one World Champion left, so logically fans know it will most likely be Cody vs Rollins. However we shouldn't edit the Matches table until it is officially announced on WWE.com or on WWE's official social media.

Until those sources are available the match shouldn't be added. However, I won't get into any further edit war.

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I didn't want a edit war either, but there is no other World Champion besides Rollins, so there's only one possible choosing. However, as i Said, i didn't want a edit war either, i Will not put Rollins name on that yet, however, Cody must be there, he won the Rumble, so we have a official confirmation that Cody Will be there getting a World Title match StrangerMan123 (talk) 04:54, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

It's not our job as wikipedia editors to follow WWE storylines and make predictions as fans. We can only edit the Matches section once a match is confirmed through WWE's official sources (WWE.com website or WWE verified social media). Kvwiki1234 (talk) 04:59, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Summerslam Discussion

This comes from the same guy about the lock situation, AND the one who corrected the link. Earlier, BUT the problem is how can you request a lock as IP Trolls took over the Clash at the Castle: Scotland a few times, i just want to be Aware. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 00:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey, on Smackdown last friday it was mentioned of N1C for the WWE Tag Team Championships, however, i aint a IP Troll, but i did hear about a N1C on Friday, so that could mean there will a tag team titles match at Summerslam, as a lot of people anticipate matches or predictions online, which one did get correct, but who knows about whats gonna happen. Not from an IP Troll. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 00:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree with you, the gauntlet to define the challengers for DIY titles will indeed take place, but it has not been confirmed where the winners will receive the title shot, could be at SummerSlam, could be on SmackDown, Who knows? and also, to lock the page, you have to request that to an admin. StrangerMan123 (talk) 00:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Alright, i get you. But yeah, there errors twice for two matches that were for a televised shows first was the whole Kevin Owens VS. Solo Sikoa Bloodline Rules match for nothing. That was meant the June 14th Smackdown. Another prime example was just more recently prior to MITB, someone added a match between Liv Morgan VS. Zelina Vega and for the Womens World Championship that was for the next Raw. So i do see where your going. Also i see a lot of IP Trolls in the Summerslam Wikipedia page, so keep in mind, its only meant for WWE Wrestlers not random people Lard Farquaad and Shrek, Context: Someone was able to mess around with the Wikipedia page, and added a match between these two fictional characters from Shrek.) 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

I also dont anticipate the whole Drew McIntyre VS CM Punk match happening at Summerslam, but a matter of time will determine it. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Im a bit behind on the Raw Taping but, if Drew McIntyre VS. CM Punk does happen, i'll be shocked as McIntyre and CM Punk is in the building tonight. Also get your DVR ready for SyFy on Next Monday because Raw will be on SyFy the next two weeks. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Question? Will Seth "Freakin" Rollins be a guest referee if there isnt a offical link yet? Or no? This is a question. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, i know that, It's confirmed that Drew and Punk will be facing each other at SummerSlam, really loved that Seth is gonna be the referee, about the Random ips problem, this is something that really happens a lot, hope that the page will be locked soon, and yes, Rollins confirmed, so yeah, he will be the referee StrangerMan123 (talk) 01:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

I was in the shower, but it's gonna be crazy, for the "Biggest Party of the Summer". Six title matches, and 1 regular match + a Battle Royal (possibly) 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

It will really be awesome, it's gonna be a great SummerSlam StrangerMan123 (talk) 01:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, the IP Trolls are so darn bad. Like what the heck like dude. These people are weirdos. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Definitely 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Agree, don't know why they do this StrangerMan123 (talk) 01:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Also what the hell just happened to the site. Cause someone went rogue and removed all the matches. Traderjoeslover did. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Just saved the day, the ip is different. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah i saw, really don't know why this IP is doing it StrangerMan123 (talk) 01:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Traderjoesguy was crazy please know that the 105. Was me. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Who fixed the site. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:42, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Oh alright, thanks for fixing it StrangerMan123 (talk) 01:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Also, Milwaukee will have SmackDown this Friday. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, i saw it StrangerMan123 (talk) 01:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

I dont really know if that is the case 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 01:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

For some reason

The Discretion we had went to darn long and now some of the text is unreadable. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 02:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

The discussion correction. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 02:34, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Continuous Discussion of SummerSlam

I got too long for the site to pressure it, i decided just to make a new one. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 15:24, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

There was unreliable info on the Summerslam Wikipedia

Basically, 1 IP troll decided to basically say that the Bloodline was barred from ringside, however that is not true. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:6938:D4D3:12D4:9B37 (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

There is actually confirmed of SummerSlam 2025.

So back in June, WWE Announced where the next Royal Rumble, SummerSlam, and Wrestlemania 2026 will be. In Indianapolis on the June 24th episode of Raw. Thank you for you cooperation in this message. 166.181.81.31 (talk) 22:42, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

However, no logo has been announced, secondly this comes from the same person about the whole WWE Tag Team Championship Situation. 166.181.81.31 (talk) 22:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Actually, it was said that It's gonna be in Future years, Just the Rumble will take Place in Indianapolis next year StrangerMan123 (talk) 00:06, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Ok, i need to figure out some things, but yeah it was confirmed for sometime in Indianapolis, i need to watch the Raw taping again, to figure out what it really is, the Royal Rumble was confirmed for 2025, in Indianapolis. 166.181.81.31 (talk) 01:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay, they meant for the future. 166.181.82.184 (talk) 21:37, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

More matches than usual to occur at Summerslam?

Currently there has been a few claims of whats gonna happen for SummerSlam, one thing i think may happen is more than usual amount of matches, if more matches are added, which may not happen, however a N1C really needs to determine whats gonna happen for DIY, so who knows, also rumors online are one thing, or matches like for the Womens Tag Team Championships may occur, but who knows. 166.181.81.31 (talk) 01:40, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

I can say, probably for SmackDown or another show, we will need to know. 166.181.81.31 (talk) 01:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

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War reguarding something in Bash in Berlin

The issue is that people think the stipulations for the Randy Orton VS Gunther match is not if Gunther loses he leaves Raw and goes to Smackdown. However This is legitimately correct. Also if Randy wins he goes to Raw. 2600:1700:9AA2:4540:4564:8936:6BD5:BF30 (talk) 15:43, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Found a Terror Twins Wikipedia Page

Yes. This is true! @StrangerMan123 Please go into The Judgement Day Wikipedia page and go to the bottom of the page. And you'll find it. [FAIR WARNING IT WILL SAY THAT THE PAGE IS A ORPHAN!] 99.6.222.160 (talk) 14:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Correction

On the Bash in Berlin Wikipedia page i said "GO. TO. HELL." It was for the IP troll adding a very, very controversial match. 166.181.85.154 (talk) 19:53, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism

Yeah that edit is Vandalism. Period. 166.181.88.243 (talk) 01:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

A entire Wikipedia page on the Original Bloodline members exist.

So yeah I found it on the Crown Jewel Wikipedia page. When people can understand there a page made by real people. They didn't look. 166.181.83.212 (talk) 17:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Would you take a look at The OG Bloodline? 2001:D08:2920:7B79:1806:3B9D:7B10:9055 (talk) 07:20, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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Can you fix the Survivor Series WarGames matches to adf reliable stuff. Get Czello involved. 2603:6000:A900:BCC6:2C00:1A62:A5A2:B176 (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)