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[edit]Hi StellarHalo. Many of your recent posts at the reference desks have bent or broken the rule against "requests for opinions, predictions or debate". Could you exert some additional care in filtering out questions that are more likely to results in opinion and debate than fact-based answers? Thanks, Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:23, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- To add to the above, if you persist in spamming reference desks with more nonsense like this [1] I will be calling for you to be topic-banned from the reference desks. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:46, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- @AndyTheGrump Ok then. Please try to enlighten me on how was that in any way nonsensical? Don't tell me you are triggered by a mere list of questions and background info? StellarHalo (talk) 20:05, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- My warning stands. I am not going to engage in debate with you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:21, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- @AndyTheGrump So no evidence then. You are basically just casting aspersion on me. StellarHalo (talk) 20:45, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- My warning stands. I am not going to engage in debate with you. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:21, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- @AndyTheGrump Ok then. Please try to enlighten me on how was that in any way nonsensical? Don't tell me you are triggered by a mere list of questions and background info? StellarHalo (talk) 20:05, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- I would support a topic ban.-gadfium 19:57, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- And I'll add to this that I'll happily impose a partial block from those pages if that pattern continues. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:42, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- I was going to say the same thing, Fut. A topic ban would have to go via WP:AN or WP:ANI, thus wasting more of the time of editors who could be doing something better (added to the time StellarHalo is already wasting with point-making rhetorical questions). A simpler action would be to page-block SH from the Reference desk pages, which I am also prepared to do if the "debating" questions or other disruption continue. Bishonen | tålk 21:19, 29 October 2022 (UTC).
- Hi StellarHalo. Since I last commented here, two of your reference desk questions have been at least borderline rule violations. There was this question, about the Israel-Palestine conflict and then this question, about both the I-P conflict (later struck) and ongoing sanctions against Russians. It's not impossible to ask a legitimate ref desk question about these sensitive topics, but I believe your questions were open-ended ones that naturally invite opinion and debate. The first did result in some acrimonious back-and-forth, and the second has users questioning the POV of your assumptions. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:23, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- Which part of the first question was "acrimonious back-and-forth"? I asked about the legal basis and reasons for why the international community including the allies of Israel would choose to view the Israeli occupation of the West Bank as illegal, specifically if they have ever explained their reasoning and justification in any official declaration or if they have ever engaged with or debunked the position of Israel on the issue. Then, people tried to give answers, albeit none of which successfully answered my question. There was no debate on any of the facts I used as a context to the question.
- For the most recent one, I was expecting people to know why "human rights" are called that and what they entail. It is not my fault if I specifically indicated the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and someone did not at least skim it before second guessing me. StellarHalo (talk) 20:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't say that any "part of the first question was 'acrimonious back-and-forth'", but that it was a result of the question. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that a debate-style question about one of the most sensitive geopolitical topics of our time would lead to debate, some of it impolite. On the recent question, I don't care to engage in the debate with you. Are you taking no responsibility for the resulting debate? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- For the first question, what debate are you talking about? Which part of that conversation was acrimonious or impolite? I asked for info on the reasoning behind a long-held legal position of the international community and everyone else gave their two cents on what that might be. If you are referring to Mathglot's initial response, he just pointed out the obvious and then missed the fact that my questions were narrow and only concern a specific aspect of the topic. My response to AnonMoos' initial answer was due to the fact that it only addressed the positions of Arab states rather than the wider international community.
- For the recent question, I should have realized that other people would have their own presumptions about human rights and privileges. I should have made more effort to assuage and mitigate any possible concern they might have. I take full responsibility for being inconsiderate and not sufficiently concise. StellarHalo (talk) 21:56, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- For the first question, I'm referring to AnonMoos's comments and the replies by Of 19 and Lambiam. Of 19's comment was then removed by Mathglot in this edit. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 22:03, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- I didn't say that any "part of the first question was 'acrimonious back-and-forth'", but that it was a result of the question. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that a debate-style question about one of the most sensitive geopolitical topics of our time would lead to debate, some of it impolite. On the recent question, I don't care to engage in the debate with you. Are you taking no responsibility for the resulting debate? Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 21:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]I don't know much about international relations but I suspect a big part of it is slippery slope. Like how they spent a lot of resources keeping His Royal Highness Napoleon I from escaping again instead of painlessly executing him. Never mind the implausibility of a similar thing happening to their country/head of state or the amount of deaths and trouble Napoleon/Palestinians caused, the idea of a people ~90-99% evicted from X in the past (no matter how severe, endless and un-karmic their persecution) evicting one that lives there now (no matter how uncompromising, asshole-y, and wiping out-y to the group above) makes countries nervous. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 05:07, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]There is currently a Request Move discussion about William IV. Since you participated in the previous move discussion involving William IV, I thought you might want to know about this one. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:29, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi. I saw your move. I think it was first moved to exodus here without discussion. Do you think the original title should be restored? - Kevo327 (talk) 06:40, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
- Restore it to the "Flight" title if you want but the move to "Exodus" was not exactly controversial. Any controversial move has to be discussed in a move request and someone contested it in the talk page. StellarHalo (talk) 06:43, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
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