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October 2013

Information icon Please stop using talk pages such as Talk:September 11 attacks for general discussion of the topic. They are for discussion related to improving the article; not for use as a forum or chat room. See here for more information. Thank you. Acroterion (talk) 13:34, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk pages are not a place for you to express your personal views on a given subject, they are a place for editors to collaborate on specific improvements to their articles. Acroterion (talk) 13:35, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Ok.SpidErxD (talk) 17:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Help Me (3)

How to get the statistics about viewers of a particular article?? I want to know that how many views an article e.g.Pakistan get per day.SpidErxD (talk) 18:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, SpidErxD. Just go to http://stats.grok.se/en/201310/Pakistan, and you can type any article name in the field below the graph. Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 18:50, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you :) SpidErxD (talk) 20:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

A reference problem

Hi SpidErxD! Some users have been working hard on Category:Pages with broken reference names.

Here you added new references ref name=OPBW and ref name="status" but didn't define it. This has been showing as an error at the bottom of the article. Cite error: The named reference was invoked but never defined. Can you take a look and work out what you were trying to do? Thanks --Frze > talk 07:55, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

European intelligence believe Iran has data to Make a Nuclear Bomb. By mistake I wrote 'date' instead of 'data' in article. Reference issue is now fixed.SpidErxD (talk) 01:08, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Iran Election Protest

Your statement that the USA has been funding anti government groups in Iran has no relevance to this article whatsoever. The articles do not even mention Mousavi, much less the Green Movement. There are many groups opposed to the Iranian Government. Can you prove that the Green Movement was one of them? Of course you cant. I can tell you are motivated to write this article by making the USA appear to be the culprit and the Iranian Government are the good guys. There are forums where you can express that, Wikipedia is not that forum. If you continue to make nonsense edits which, in your case, amount to propaganda and censorship, such as the Protesters around the world were not Iranian, or that the Protests were the responsibility of the United States, I will have to report you.RezaShah4 (talk) 07:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I am just making this article neutral by mentioning both(pro and anti) point of views. USA is Officially funding Anti-regime groups in Iran. Dont make this article biased. SpidErxD (talk) 07:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Okay, they are. What does that have to do with these protests? RezaShah4 (talk) Rezashah4 (talk) 07:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Please read headlines,Govt. Statements regarding this event. Western Media was provoking these protests. USA is officially funding Anti-Regime groups and doing covert actions against Iran. Why you only mentioning Anti-Iran points in this article? We can make this article neutral by mentioning both(anit,pro) point of viewsSpidErxD (talk) 07:45, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
First of all, Your comment that Neda was not killed by the Sepah (even though the shooters Sepah ID, which identified him as Abbas Kargar Javad, was uploaded online) shows that you are not interested in making this article neutral. Promoting CIA conspiracy theories on this article does not make it neutral. Until the CIA comes out and says they were responsible, they will remain conspiracy theories. Second, yes, if the Western Media provoked these protests, that means that the Western Media was responsible for the Corruption of the mullahs, for the killings during the 80s, for sending our money to Lebanon, For letting Abadan rot in hell, and for wasting our money on a Nuclear program that dosent even produce any electricity yet. if the western media was responsible for these, then they are responsible for the protests. Haha, That is a common Censor Tactic, My comments are Anti-Iran. No, I am pro-Iran, you are the fake one, defending and being blind and ignorant to a regime that has massacred your brothers and sisters. Rezashah4 (talk) 08:01, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I am not removing your point of view from Article, Im just mentioning Iran,Russia point of view. a/c to Human Rights Watchcheck this, she was not killed by the Basij and she was several kilometers away from protests a/c to eye witnesses and her relatives. Western Media used this video for propaganda and blamed it on Basij.. I am not mentioning any conspiracy I am just mentioning Russia/Iran point of view. SpidErxD (talk) 08:09, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
No, Your point is that The western media is responsible and the Russians are the only fair and objective sources. Her family has repeatedly said that The Government was responsible. HRW is not a blacklisted source on Wikipedia. And your claims constitute Conspiracy theories. After you have threatened me with blocking, I have decided to report you. Rezashah4 (talk) 08:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I have been part of maintaining this article for the past 4 years. We have blocked many other vandalism and other nonsense edits like yours, so I have reported you to [1] Because I am tired of you warring with me on this and you have violated the 3RR rule on editing. Leave the article as it is. Your edits are distruptive and this is not a place for Conspiracy debates.Rezashah4 (talk) 16:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I don't post corporate lies like you. HumanRightsWatch is more authentic then your FoxNews,CNN and other corporate s***.SpidErxD (talk) 17:07, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
First of all, you are not trying to make the article at all fair. I can tell that by sourcing websites that promote the idea that the government was in fact, responsible for all the killings in the Capital of the Country, I am Pro-American, Anti-Iranian, and a Corporate Lie. And by sourcing Russian/Iranian sources, You are countering the Pro-American "Lies" that are circulating the web. I've dealt with Islamic Republic Supporting people like yourself all my life. I used to be a Shi'ite like yourself for many years. Until I saw what that sick ideology did to my hometown of Abadan. Teenagers leaving high school to buses so they can go blow themselves up with Imam Hussein headbands. And it dosent matter what they do, this government is fair because they say they are Islamic. I know you people. And I know you are not interested in making the article fair, you are using the Article to clean up the image of the Islamic Republic and Propagate their views. Thats why you have deleted segments in the summary where it mentions how security forces are killing and torturing people, like Neda. Dont try to bulls*** me. There is even a segment in the Article about foreign involvement. If you were to put in the Summary, "However, The Iranian Government has denied killing protesters, and claims they were fabricated by foreign forces." I wouldnt have mind that, cause that would have made it fair by actually providing both Mousavi and Ahmadinejads sides. If you put that simple sentence there, we wouldnt have this argument. But no, You put in the bottom of the summary how the USA has been supporting unspecified anti Government groups from 2007, delete how the government was killing people in the Summary, and then you start debating with me about how Neda was not killed by the Iranian Government and put how the Russian media has blamed the Western media for somehow instigating the protests. Well guess what, under Wikipedia rules, its not your job to call out different sources and call them "corporate s***". Wikipedia is not a place for you to debate your politcal views. I never even had to have this kind of discussion with anyone prior to this. Whether you like it or not, Neda was killed in the capital of the country, her video was uploaded to YouTube and it has become a symbol of the protests. And nobody with a Brain in the entire country believes that anyone but the Basij were responsible. I am Iranian, ive been there, and I can tell you are part of the far right one percent who is raping the country who actually believes that there was some kind of foreign conspiracy. Rezashah4 (talk) 23:18, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
First of all I dont support US puppet Pahlavi and you support him. 1953 Military coup overthrow Iranian elected PrimeMinister and installed US puppet Pahlavi. whereas in 1979 Iranian people overthrow US puppet Pahlavi but US attacked Iran with the help Saddam Hussain and even provide Saddam with Chemical weapons to attack Iran. Stop lying, Suicide attack is Haram a/c to Khumeni and Ali Khemnei and Iranians dont do suicide attack like Al-Qaeda,Taliban etc.
Officially( a/c to WhiteHouse.gov link) USA is doing covert actions against Iranian Regime since 2006. Whole article is citing towards FoxNews,CNN etc. According to HumanRightsWatch "Neda Agha was several kilometers away from protests, she was struck in a traffic jam, and there were no Basij forces when she was killed". a/c to FoxNews,CNN etc. "she was going to protest and she was killed by Basij" and you are posting CNN,FoxNews reports instead of HumanRightsWatch report .Ofcouse Western media showed that she was killed by Basij and many people world wide started protest against Iranian Regime. When I post that "According to Russia state tv(RT.com),these protests were planned and it was western media propoganda" you removed it by calling it conspiracy, I am not posting my views I posted RT.com point of view. Why are you making article so biased? by only posting CNN,BBC,FoxNews s***. We should post both(USA and Russia/Iran) point of views to make this article neutral.I didnt removed USA point of view but when I post Russian/Iranian point of view you removed it by calling Iranian/Russian conspiracy. If you change this article's title to "2009–10 Iranian election protests (according to USA)", I will not post RT.com(russian state tv) or PressTv.com(Iran state tv) point of view. SpidErxD (talk) 06:35, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Since You clearly dont know anything about Iranian History, which bothers me as to why you are editing Iranian articles, I'll take this time to teach you a Little bit.
1.) Im from Abadan and my Grandfather was paid 100 rials a month for 40 years thanks to the Corrupt Pahlavi's (if you read my page, you would have known this) and he was nearly killed in 1942 by the British Invasion and in 1953 by Rokme Do (predecessor of Savak) for Supporting Mossaddegh. He was also a part of the strike in September 1978 which led to the Collapse of the Shahs Regime. And you talk like you know CIA covert action. hahaha, You're just another fake. And you accuse me of being supporting them?
2.) I Do like Americans though, Cause in the 25 years the Americans controlled Iran, they modernized the country more than it had been in 400 years. Do you what life was like prior to 1953? The british and russians let Iran rot in hell under the Qajar and Reza Shah dynasties. Lurs used to rob people until a national Gendarmerie was established in the 30s with American support. You couldnt even walk to the next village without being robbed. The first person to protest to the British about their treatment of the Iranians was FDR's envoy who visited Iran in 1944 and screamed at the British about how there were so many homeless in Tehran. The Americans built power plants, infrastructure, Schools, homes for millions of Iranian in those 25 years. They made the Iranian army the 5th most powerful in the world. You think it was for Oil? they only got 25 percent of the oil, as opposed to the 80 percent of which the drunken british got. And they did nothing for us. America modernized Iran more than ever. And the Iranian people were educated for the first time about the outside world. And thats why the mullahs will be overthrown. The people are educated.
3.) During the Iran-Iraq war, we had in our textbooks the story of Hassan Fahmideh, A 12 year old who ran away from home and blew himself up to stop a Iraqi tank advance in 1982. Thousands of teenagers wore keys around their neck so they could open the gates of heaven. I know this cause im from Abadan, which was destroyed by these idiots. In fact, Saddam wanted chemical weapons because he didnt know what to do about these Suicide bombers. He invaded Iran beacuse Khomeini wanted to overthrow him and Khomeini massacred all the Officers in the Army. And we paid the price, not you. You dont this cause you're not even Iranian, much less know anything about Iran.
4.) The protests were going on before Neda died. And Arash Hejazi, who was with her when she died, saw the killer, who was confronted and identified as Abbas Kargar Javid. With Basij Cards. Like I said, you are the only person left who believes there is a conspiracy. Cause killings like this in Iran have been going on for the past 30 years. 30,000 in 1988 alone. Cause Mullahs only want death and destruction and rape. We overthrew the Pahlavi regime, but we got worse.

So now that I am finished with your history lesson. Its not the USA version. Its the version of the People of Iran. As we have seen on the thousands of Videos we posted on YouTube. The blood that has been shed. The Children that have been raped. The mothers who have suffered. The thousands who have been killed under this regime, the Millions who are suffering, The Billions of lost dreams and hopes. This page is sacred to us. And we are not gonna let some backwards, wife beating terrorist make it out to be a mouthpiece for the Drunken KGB Russians or the Mullah Dictatorship. Rezashah4 (talk) 07:42, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

1) About Iranian development. Iran is rank 1 in Technology growth rate in 30yrs (1980-2010) a/c to British Govt.link & Science Mertix link
2) About Iranian people. Majority supports Khumeni not US puppet Pahelvi. Majority are Shias and you are Buddhist.
4) US puppet Pahelvi was helping USA by stealing Iranian resources and by giving Iranian Oil to US Oil companies. Now Oil companies are nationalized in Iran but USA is earning by Exxon Mobile,Royal Dutch Shell in Saudia,Qatar,UAE etc.
5) US puppet Pahelvi used Iranian army & Iranian resources in Vietnam War.
6) Pahelvi was like SaddamHussain,HosniMubarak,Saudi,Qatar,UAE kings. You call them kings but I called them US puppets.


If you understand what is petrodollar and Federal Reserve you will understand why USA wanted to occupy Oil rich countries. and why USA supported Saddam Husasin who killed many Shias&Kurds in Iraq with Chemical weapons.
CIA&MI6 installed Pahelvi with Military Coup in 1953 but Iranian people overthrow that client regime in 1979. US also installed puppets with Military Coup in Cuba & Venezuela but Cuban people overthrew that client regime under leadership of Fiedel Castro and Che Guevara and Venezuleain people overtrhow that client regime under leadership of Hugo Chávez. USA love Saudis,Qatar kings but hate Iran & Venezuela because they nationalize Oil production and dont allow Exxon Mobil or Royat Dutch Shell. Just watch ‎this you will understand mordern wars. SpidErxD (talk) 11:15, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Iranians would have never become modernized and they never would have valued Education had it been for the Reforms of Reza Khan Pahlavi and The Modernization brought by the Americans after 1953. They liberated the People from 1000 years of Mullah Shia Martydom Domination. If the people of Iran were not educated, Khomeini would have returned Iran to the dark ages. Have you even been to Iran? I have never even met one person in Iran that does not talk trash about this regime. Teachers, Taxi Drivers, Farmers, Shirazi's, Even Khomeini's deputy Montazeri came out and called Velayat Fiqh un-islamic. Im Buddhist because It connects me with this life and it is like the Ancient Zorastrian faith which I also study. The True religon of Iran, not filth Arab Shiaism that was forced onto us just like the African Slaves by their Arab masters. People in Iran wear the Fahravar around their neck, not the allah symbol. But I am buddhist because Buddhism preaches about this life and making it better, not about Death and Destruction and Rape by the servants of Shia'ism. Did the quran ever say that the desendants of Muhammad were holy? of course not. it was made up by filthy akhunds who wanted power. They kept Iran in the dark ages for over 1000 years.
Not a single Iranian Soldier Ever served in Vietnam. Iranians were only stationed in Oman, Congo, the Golan heights, and they were there due to UN PEACEKEEPING operations, not US wars. You only like this filth government because it supports the filthy animals of Palestine at the cost of the Iranian people. It had nothing to do with liberating us from the Shah. Those f***ers in Lebanon were cheering when the shah was overthrown and Khomeini offered his support. All those animals can burn in hell. Did you know that half the people who overthrew the shah were leftists and communists who foguht the regime since the 30s? What happened to them? They were wiped out in the Concentration camps of the Mullah dictatorship. Like I said, you can keep saying that US stole from Iran. But The United States modernized Iran more in 25 years, than it had been in the past 400.Rezashah4 (talk) 00:25, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Did you watched ‎that video? read Gandhi,Einstein,Nelson Mandela,Bertrand Russell quotes about Palestine-Israel conflict. All were against Zionism, Gandhi was hindu,Nelson is christian,Russell was atheist, Einstein was jew but all were against Zionists. and stop lying about Iran and Khumeni. All iranians respect Khumeni except Israel fans, Pahelvi fans. :D SpidErxD (talk) 19:57, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
Well if Russel, Einstein, or Mandela had their houses destroyed by Arab animals like my house in 1981 in Abadan, they wouldnt have been so naive about this situation. Arabs are terrorists and animals. And they can have their dirty little palestine blown to pieces along with Lebanon and Iraq. Have you even been to Iran? Im not lying, im telling you the truth. If you dont like it, go support another regime in some other bullshit country. Ive never met one Iranian who even marginally likes the government. Ive been to the Apartment blocks of Sima Va Seda (The State radio and TV Corp) and even there, everyone hated the regime and they told me that They dont even watch Press TV, they all Preffered BBC and VOA!!! The only people who like this regime are the Mullahs who rape this country and animal Arabs like yourself who benifit from this governments "generosity" to the s*** of Palestine at the cost of the Iranian people.
ONE MORE TIME!!! YOUVE NEVER BEEN TO IRAN! HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? Rezashah4 (talk) 06:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Did you watched ‎that video? please dont merge Arabs with Iranians. Arab countries are Amercians,Israel Allies. I dont want to dicuss with you b/c your brain is washed by CNN,BBC and other corporate s*** please do watch ‎that video. SpidErxD (talk) 13:06, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
I did watch your ridiculous video that is meant to keep people who dont know anything about history stupid. How am I brainwashed based off of what Ive seen in Iran? And you ignore the irony that you are brainwashed by Russian KGB Propaganda. Of course that video was made by the Russian SVR. It was a tactic reported by KGB Defector Vasily Mitrokhin. Please read his book The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archive.Rezashah4 (talk) 14:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
You clearly dont know anything about Iran, so stop editing Iranian articles. Rezashah4 (talk) 01:35, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Stop removing Russian/Iranian point of view from that article. we should include both(Iran and US) point of view in article.SpidErxD (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
I did put in a Gramatically correct sentence where it put the Iranian Terrorist viewpoint in order to appease your KGB Brainwashed head. Your Edits are messy and are stupid. I fixed it until you just reverted it. And you still dont know anything about Iran. Rezashah4 (talk) 05:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

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Death of Neda Agha-Soltan

Your edit here left a space at the beginning of the line " Her death..." which resulted in the text being enclosed in a box. Please check your edit with the "Show preview" button before saving. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 11:03, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Ok I will be careful next time. Thank you.SpidErxD (talk) 11:37, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Help Me

Please tell me HumanRightsWatch report is more authentic than FoxNews,CNN,BBC etc. reports or not? SpidErxD (talk) 04:57, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

THAT IS NOT YOUR JOB TO DECIDE! That is not your job at all. Whether it is Fox, BBC, or CNN, you have no authority to make that decision. You are the most ignorant Wikipedia editor I have ever seen. Forget Iranian Articles. Stop Editing on Wikipedia at all!Rezashah4 (talk) 05:33, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
I am not asking you @Rezashah4.SpidErxD (talk) 05:42, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
You asked. And you have no answer to what I have to say. Rezashah4 (talk) 05:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Stop Personal attacks. SpidErxD (talk) 06:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
As should you. Rezashah4 (talk) 06:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Have Rezashah4 and SpidErxD used dispute resolution for this. As far as I can tell this is just an edit war and you both seem to be in violation of WP:Civility. I marked you as helped since this appears to not really be a request for backup in support of your edit war. XFEM Skier (talk) 07:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

I am tired of this

Look, what will it take for you to shut the hell up and stop vandalising the page with your poorly sourced and badly worded comments? I put in there a correct sentence but you deleted it. What is your problem? What is your agenda? Rezashah4 (talk) 05:52, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Listen bro stop making this article biased and stop Personally attacking me. whats the problem with you when I include Russian/Iranian point of view with Russian state tv links?? a/c to hrw.org Neda Agha khan was struck in traffic jam and she was several kilometers away from protests and when she was killed there were no Basij forces. But a/c to FoxNews she was going to protests and she was killed by Basij. will you stop putting FoxNews lies?? hrw.org is more authenic then FoxNews etc.SpidErxD (talk) 05:55, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
I am not removing US point of views but you are removing Russian/Iranian point of views.SpidErxD (talk) 05:56, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
However, The Iranian Government has denied being responsible for the deaths of the civilians and have blamed the CIA and Israeli Mossad for instigating the protests and being responsible for the deaths of people on the streets of the Tehran and in the prisons That is what i put in there. You keep reverting it to your poor edits. 24x7 is not even a word. Russian State tv is not an actual channel. And it is not your job to call FoxNews lies. THAT IS NOT YOUR JOB! According to wikipedia, there are no rules against putting FoxNews as a source. Btw, you are the last person in the world who believes that Neda was a conspiracy. the absolute last. Nobody except you believes that, you remember that, ive been to Iran, I am from Iran, I am an Iranian. You are not. You cannot make the decision as to whether or not Neda was a conspiracy. I am sick and tired of your edits. I am going to revert it with the sentence I wrote for you. Do you have a problem with the above sentence? Rezashah4 (talk) 06:03, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Stop putting this lie. Iranian govt. didnt said that . However, The Iranian Government has denied being responsible for the deaths of the civilians and have blamed the CIA and Israeli Mossad for instigating the protests and being responsible for the deaths of people on the streets of the Tehran and in the prisons SpidErxD (talk) 06:07, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
HAHAHAH First of all, that is proper grammar. Second, Then what did they say? Rezashah4 (talk) 06:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Iranian Officials accused Western Media for giving intense coverage to these protests. Some Iranian Officials called these protests were planned by CIA they didnt said that However, The Iranian Government has denied being responsible for the deaths of the civilians and have blamed the CIA and Israeli Mossad for instigating the protests and being responsible for the deaths of people on the streets of the Tehran and in the prisons and why are you removing Russian State tv (rt.com) point of view?? SpidErxD (talk) 06:12, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
This is a summary. There is a section called Foreign involvement, where you can put your bs. Not in the Summary. In the Summary, you are supposed to add a Small sentence SUMMARIZING THE view. Dont you know english? And you are using it to put your own bias in this article. You are amazing. So the Iranian Government didnt blame the CIA right?Rezashah4 (talk) 06:16, 7 November 2013 (UTC)