User talk:Sparatan 1

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April 2019

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January 2020

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Olentangy Orange High School, you may be blocked from editing. Please follow WP:BRD. John from Idegon (talk) 02:00, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent editing history at Olentangy Orange High School shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Steven (Editor) (talk) 02:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I echo what is being said above. It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong about wanting to include this information. Three different editors have been removing this content from the article. A content dispute requires the parties in dispute to discuss the issue on the article's talk page. If you persist in your edit war all the while refusing to engage in discussion on Talk:Olentangy Orange High School, it is highly likely you will be blocked. Edit warring achieves nothing. Discussion does. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:32, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will issue a block if you edit Olentangy Orange High School without first getting consensus on talk after at least 48 hours of discussion. Johnuniq (talk) 06:20, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sparatan 1, I've not been involved in this scuffle, but my advice would be to slow down and address the items you want to introduce or restore, and do so one at a time. The band and Trump's visit may or may not be considered notable, but please understand that it is the Wikipedia community that needs to reach consensus on this, not you and your friends. While I really truly believe you're editing in good faith and with the best of intentions, you've ruffled some feathers by (1) engaging in an edit war (cf. WP:Edit warring), (2) introducing the possibility that you're collaborating with friends to support your position (cf. WP:Meatpuppetry), and (3) insulting an dedicated and well-regarded editor. This could get you in trouble – needlessly so, in my opinion – and would do both you and the school a disservice. (Bonus hint: an apology might be in order.)

Also, there's a natural tendency to view reversions (the "R" in WP:BRD) as antagonistic. Please try to quell this impulse, and look at the comments, criticisms, and edits with an open mind. I recently tried to introduce major changes to a school article and a LOT (like half) of what I wrote got cut out entirely or radically rewritten. But, looking back, 95% of the cuts and edits improved the article, and I was often able to argue my case or reach some sort of compromise about the remaining 5%. Ottoump (talk) 20:21, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ottoump, thank you for the advice and consideration, and I'll admit, I'm still wholly a novice at Wikipedia and accept wrongdoing with edit warring and collaboration. I will not apologize to the user in question however, because I do believe I was acted in bad faith towards. But you are right, and I am a stubborn person (you can see that with my own citations on my talk page). I will crop my argument and make a fully content-based approach to resolving this dispute and building consensus. Thank you for your time in writing me a message. Sparatan 1 (talk) 20:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with the article, and with the collaboration. (P.S. I indented your reply, which follows protocol. It's one of the few things I know how to do. I may have violated that myself above, although I'm not really sure. Ironic, isn't it?) Ottoump (talk) 21:46, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits while logged out. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being blocked from editing. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:06, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]