User talk:Sonsanddaughtersporterranch

May 2018

Hello, I'm KNHaw. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Jerry Brown, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please provide media sources to claims of these peoples' actions as well as media sources backing up claims about Porter Ranch residents. KNHaw ^(talk) 19:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Please stop adding unreferenced or poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at Jerry Brown. Content of this nature could be regarded as defamatory and is in violation of Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. As stated before, please provide media sources for statements about the opinions of the residents of Porter Ranch. If you have any questions as to what constitutes a valid source, feel free to contact me on my talk page below or bring up the issue on the article talk page. KNHaw ^(talk) 19:57, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, Sonsanddaughtersporterranch, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, your edit to Jerry Brown does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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Jerry Brown

(Duplicating edits to my talk page...)

Thanks for the update. I'm still a little concerned that the statement "Residents of Porter Ranch have continued to express concern that Governor Brown..." is overly broad. Could you find a source for that as well? Something that lays out those specific concerns in the source? I won't revert your edit as-is over it, but I think it'll make your edit stronger.

Thanks for editing! --KNHaw ^(talk) 20:11, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I think there are more issues that just that. Brown's sister is on the board, not Brown himself, and the section is way too long and has a pretty obvious POV. Please use the article talk page to discuss the edits and get consensus there before trying to edit the article again. Ravensfire (talk) 21:10, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Understood Ravensfire. Removed the POV.

Seriously - you NEED to discuss this on the article talk page and stop trying to force a pretty obvious POV here. Ravensfire (talk) 22:31, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I am trying to demonstrate financial connection between Governor Brown's sister and the company that owns the Aliso Canyon Gas Field. All the sources are either primary sources (links from the company's own pages), or newspaper articles. Please tell me what obvious POV still remains, since I removed the Residents of Porter Ranch part.

And there's your main problem - primary sources that you are then chaining together to draw a conclusion. That's fine for a blog, but called WP:SYNTHESIS on Wikipedia and not appropriate here. Please read through some of the helpful links on the welcome message. Ravensfire (talk) 22:38, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

May 2018

Your recent editing history at Jerry Brown shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
You are edit-warring over some highly questionable material. If you revert it again, you will be reported for edit-warring and probably blocked. You MUST discuss this on the article talk page and do NOT add it back to the article until you get consensus on the article talk page. Ravensfire (talk) 22:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I would like to add the following entry to the wikipedia page, and posting it here to get consensus before publishing it on the page. Entry is as follows:

Family ties to Largest Industrial Gas Leak (Porter Ranch)

Jerry Brown's sister, Kathleen Brown, is on the Board of Directors of Sempra Energy https://www.sempra.com/investors/governance/board-of-directors .

Sempra Energy owns Southern California Gas Company https://www.sempra.com/about-us/our-companies, which in turn owns the Aliso Canyon Natural Gas Storage Facility in Porter Ranch https://www.socalgas.com/stay-safe/pipeline-and-storage-safety/aliso-canyon-storage-facility1.

Governor Brown has not ordered the site permanently closed, even with additional gas leaks. https://www.dailynews.com/2015/12/18/sister-of-california-gov-jerry-brown-on-socalgas-board/

END ENTRY

All the claims are factual, and the sources are primary sources from the companies' own websites, or newspaper articles subject to their own editorial review.

The entry is relevant since Governor Brown, as the highest executive authority in the state, is responsible for the Governor's Office of Emergency Services (Cal OES), Office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment, and Emergency Medical Services Authority (EMSA) -- all of which are tasked to respond to environmental and medical disasters.

Thank you for your instruction and guidance. Sonsanddaughtersporterranch (talk) 20:02, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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