User talk:Songsten

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Thank you. Songsten (talk) 19:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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TouchedWithFire (talk) 18:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

December 2024

Hello, I'm Cassiopeia. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Naoya Inoue, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 09:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Its his amateur high lights and ref will be added in. Songsten (talk) 09:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

First amateur fights are not important fight and second no sources. Pls read why you received the warning. Cassiopeia talk 09:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Except they are important and like I said ref will be added in for the source. But you don't give me the chance to do it, cause you go and remove it right away. Songsten (talk) 10:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Rafael Espinoza, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Cassiopeia talk 09:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You talking about Espinoza's reach. It's taken from tale of tape against robiesy. It says his reach is 74.5 Songsten (talk) 09:44, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Songsten, Pls read why you received the warning. You didnt provide independent, reliable source. The "Boxrec source has already added. Cassiopeia talk 09:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source was Espinoza's own promoter and top rank as they listed his reach as 74.5 on tale of tape. And ref will be added in. Songsten (talk) 09:51, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"own promotion" means not independent source. Cassiopeia talk 09:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Independent source" you do realize that boxrec and other 3rd party sites get their info from promoters. And Espinoza's promoter just updated his reach. But I guess once boxrec updates it. Then we can changed it. Songsten (talk) 10:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Subriel Matías, you may be blocked from editing. Cassiopeia talk 09:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All I removed was the 140 rankings which are out dated. Songsten (talk) 09:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Songsten, you need to provide "edit summary of why you removed sourced content". Cassiopeia talk 09:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Naoya Inoue. Cassiopeia talk 09:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

those were fight summaries and were not violating any NPOV policy. Like I said refs will be added for content lacking sources. Songsten (talk) 09:50, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pls read all the info you add them in. And pls understand, not all source info is needed to be elabrate to such extend. This is Wikipedia and not a book or magazines or newspaper. We just summaries important info and simple factual written writing in neutral point of view. Pls go to the article talk page and read in details of the reason. You have received final warning and pls understand Wikipedia guidelines before edit constructive or you will be blocked. Cassiopeia talk 09:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But he is a high profile athlete. So all source info is needed to be elabrate like it's done with all the other high profile athletes. And every thing written were summaries, important info and factual in a neutral point of view. With everything removed, his page is now barebones, like he is a journeyman. Also not sure why you are threatening me with warnings, when I have not broken any Wikipedia guidelines. Songsten (talk) 10:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I asked you to read what you have reverted on NPOV and have explained to you that we dont put all info in even it is sourced but those that it important and relevant in short simple factual neutral point of view. You know some of the Wikipedia guidelines for new editors and you removed the TWA program messages (seem you dont need to take the program to know about Wikipedia guidelines) and I suspect you might be one of the previous editor (Ronten 5) or editor's friend and if so that is sock or meat sock to have multiple account and you and they rest of meat sock will be blocked indefinitely. I hope you are not what I am suspecting. Any disagreement on content of can be discuss on the article talk page which there is a disussion there about NPOV and non-excessive content. Cassiopeia talk 19:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no clue what the F you are talking about. And who the hell is Ronten5. And I removed the TWA program messages cause I already went through with it.

Songsten (talk) 21:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your history didnot indicate you went throught TWA program and maybe you use another Wikipedia user name when you did that. And if you did went through then you should know about civility when talking to other editor. Cassiopeia talk 22:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did went through it but IDK what happened cause it wasn’t showing up perfectly. So I removed it but I'll go through it again. And again I'm not sure what you mean by civility when talking to other editor, because you are the only person I talked to and I have said nothing wrong to you or attacked you. Unless you are offended cause I keep replying to you. Songsten (talk) 22:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, as you did at User talk:Songsten, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Cassiopeia talk 22:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you are talking about and who did I attacked. As far as I can recall I have attacked nobody. It will be very helpful if you could identify what is that I attacked. I looked at my talk page and there is no attack from me on anyone. Songsten (talk) 22:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit sumary

Hello. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that one or more recent edit(s) you made did not have an edit summary. You can use the edit summary field to explain your reasoning for an edit, or to provide a description of what the edit changes. Summaries save time for other editors and reduce the chances that your edit will be misunderstood. For some edits, an adequate summary may be quite brief.

The edit summary field looks like this:

Edit summary (Briefly describe your changes)

Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account, you can give yourself a reminder by setting Preferences → Editing → Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary), and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! Cassiopeia talk 09:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know how to do edit summary. Just didn't do it for 140 rankings cause it was out of date. But will do for the future. Songsten (talk) 10:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TWA program

Hi Songsten, I suggest you to take WP:TWA program to understand some of the fundamental Wikipedia guidelines to help you on editing. Cassiopeia talk 10:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC) Songsten (talk) 22:21, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]