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- Thanks. For future reference, if someone makes a change like this which has already been discussed to death in the talk page archives, I think it would be helpful for you to point that fact out (assuming you're aware of it), rather than encouraging them to start up a new discussion without having read the history. – Smyth\talk 16:10, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Roosh V
Hey thanks for your copyedit. I've moved the ADL reference to the sentence it verifies. Just thought it's clearer that way, but please feel free to revert. --84.44.156.8 (talk) 13:43, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
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Thanks for mentioning Canada! I expanded the victor airway page to include us :)
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Journalistic hyperbole
Hi, I've noticed you saying on the RS noticeboard: "Journalistic hyperbole is not worth mentioning, no matter where it appeared". I'm finding an issue with journalistic hyperbole myself - journalists' tendency to talk of things being a 'record' (since a date carefully chosen to avoid admitting it isn't really a record). Any suggestions of wp policies/essays etc that can back up my concern that articles, and particularly the leads to articles, avoid journalistic hyperbole? Thanks DrArsenal (talk) 13:17, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- That's a good question. The most relevant policy I know of is WP:NEWSORG, which reminds us that even "reliable" news sources often contain a mixture of opinion and (alleged) fact. Policy states that matters of opinion must be attributed to the writer and not stated in Wikipedia's voice. And while it's probably not directly supported by policy, my view is that such opinions shouldn't generally be included in Wikipedia at all unless the writer is a notable person in that context.
- For a cautionary tale of how even alleged factual content in reliable sources is often not true, I also encourage everyone to read Wikipedia:Otto Middleton. – Smyth\talk 15:29, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Smyth. Is there a need for an essay/something warning that journalists' need to sell their work tends to result in sensationalizing? What do you think? DrArsenal (talk) 20:26, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- I think Otto Middleton is that essay. – Smyth\talk 20:32, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
I did read Otto, but what I was thinking of was occasions when what they say is true, but less significant than they make out. DrArsenal (talk) 22:37, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- Can you give an example? – Smyth\talk 22:55, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Things like "The first time since 2002 that...", when a more reasonable description might be "The third time in C21 that...", or "the hottest day so far this year", or "the windiest day in /somewhere obscure/ since records began" (when if you delve further, records only began 20 years ago, whereas most other places they go back longer, and the record wasn't broken in those places) etc. DrArsenal (talk) 23:11, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- Then I guess you're looking for something like Wikipedia:Verifiability#Verifiability_does_not_guarantee_inclusion. – Smyth\talk 23:24, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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All of us who care about California history thank you for helping to remove this "California Republic" silliness. WCCasey (talk) 20:57, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
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