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Christmas List

Oversight on my part. I was redirecting the shorter articles on Grant's non-charting singles, and I didn't notice the further assertations of notability on that one. The fact that Kelly Clarkson's version charted is probably enough for it to stay. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 04:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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No problem. When adding feedback to a discussion about the deletion or merge of a page, it's customary at the beginning of your comment to include * Keep / * Delete (for a deletion discussion), or * Support / * Oppose (for a merge discussion), followed by your reason why. I have been fixing some of the links that TenPoundHammer deleted, since he seemed to have jumped the gun on a couple articles, but I look forward to your comments on the List of Christmas hit singles deletion proposal. Oh, and when leaving a comment there, or on someone's talk page, always finish it with four tildes (~), so that it will automatically give you credit for the comment. Fortdj33 (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

HI :)

Yes I just noticed! Its about time, well now its topped two component chart in Billboard and already charted in Japan. Looks like we have our hands full! :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 21:01, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you like MC

Check this out :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 19:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

hahahaha, I'm sure there is :) Don't worry, just keep up the good work :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 03:20, 15 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, why thank you :) I also was wondering whether to add it, I thought it was pretty cute and reliably sourced, so I put it as "Trivia" hahaah :) DO you think that section is written okay?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 21:43, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hahahaha, don't worry buddy, feel free to change anything you see fit :) Its a free article! I just did the work lol--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 01:15, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A Christmas Record

Thanks for your comment. It seems from your contributions list that I've touched on your specialist subject! - so, if there's any more information you can add, please do so. Did the album ever make any charts, for instance? Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AIWFCIY

Hi Sliv, thanks for taking such care of the article! I have closely monitored her changes and they are good faith. Not everyone will agree about that news thing, so thats the only loss. Everything else looks pretty good, take a look ;)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 20:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey :) I forgot, can you comment and express your opinion at the "AIWFCIY FAC"? It will help reach consensus :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 00:18, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Hi Sliv. Yes I happen to know where its from. Its from Mariah Daily Journal a website thats been around from a long time. Look at the link, its there :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 00:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Its all your buddy :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 00:31, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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sonia♫ 08:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've named it to match the albums list, but I'm not sure if the current titles are ideal. Thank you for all your work! sonia♫ 08:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Sonia. I'm fairly new at editing wikipedia articles (I've only been doing it for two or three years, though not on a consistent basis). Can you refer me to guidelines on how to title articles? Also, are there any general online tutorials on creating and editing wikipedia articles? Thanks! --Sliv812 (talk) 19:00, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Two or three years is hardly very new! You've been around since 2007, and I only since late 2008. My concerns with the existing titles are that no one is going to search for "christmas/holiday" as a phrase, and that Christmas on its own is probably more appropriate given holiday is a rather vague word. However, I don't think there's any other precedent here but the albums article, so I followed that.

As for titling guidelines : Wikipedia:Article titles. It does seem to support "naturalness", hmm. Perhaps we should move those articles to remove the slash? WP:LISTNAME is a more specific list-related guideline, but doesn't seem to say anything about this particular situation.

General tutorials-- there are a handful, but they're generally targetted at very new users, which you're certainly not. Is there anything in particular you were thinking of? There are lots of videos and pages about specific things, but linking all I found appropriate would result in a sea of blue links. sonia♫ 20:04, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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List of popular Christmas singles in the United States

I don't mean to bother you, but it has been a week since you commented on Talk:List of popular Christmas singles in the United States#Changes, saying that you would read it and give input later. Fortdj33 has not reply to my last post 5 days ago, and as I said, if there's no one showing an effort to discuss or work together, I will change it back (which I don't think should have been reverted in the first place), and I'm sure he wouldn't like that. So, please help keep it from being a war between 2 editors. --Musdan77 (talk) 04:38, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Musdan77, my apologies for the long delay (as I have been extremely busy with both work and holiday shopping needs over the last couple of weeks), but I have finally added my feedback to the thread on the Talk page of the List of popular Christmas singles in the United States article. I tried to target the content of my comments to the article itself (and specifically the table you created in comparison to the original table) and avoid the personal "back and forth" confrontational comments between you and Fortdj33. I do hope my feedback is constructive in reaching some type of consensus, and does not wind up in resulting in either an escalation of the tension between the two of you or a new confrontation between me and either (or both) of you. --Sliv812 (talk) 04:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. See my (relatively short) reply there. --Musdan77 (talk) 02:00, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I read it yesterday. I also added a small addendum to my response on the Talk page for the article for something I neglected to mention. After adding new entries to the table last night, I was quickly reminded just how much time and effort it takes to manage that page. And from that, Musdan77, it made me truly appreciate all the time and effort it took for you to devise that new version of the table, and then retrofit all the existing data into it. I for one know that it had to be no small task, as there is a LOT of data to both review and whittle through on that page, and additional research on your part was likely necessary. I can't thank you enough for what is likely going to be the start of the next version of the table going forward! --Sliv812 (talk) 15:52, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for those words of encouragement. I didn't add your additions to what I have in my sandbox. You can if you want -- or I can sometime. --Musdan77 (talk) 20:31, 13 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Musdan77. But unless I'm mistaken, I don't think I have access to your Sandbox. I wish I did, because I wouldn't mind transferring my recent updates in the main article to your Sandbox. In addition, there are still some charted singles in the reference book Christmas in the Charts 1920–2004 by Joel Whitburn that have yet to be added to the main article...ones that I've been meaning to add for quite some time. --Sliv812 (talk) 03:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sliv812, I hate to put you in the middle of this, but unfortunately the discussion on the talk page of this article has stalled again. IMO, Musdan77 thinks he can pick and choose which rules he is going to follow. I admit my part in this disagreement, but I have tried to explain myself, I have tried to offer a solution, and all he wants to do is argue that my points aren't valid, because they don't fit his POV. When someone cannot take responsibility for his edits, and stop making personal attacks, that goes against the collaborative nature of Wikipedia, and makes it very difficult for us to come to a consensus. I too have been meaning to add information from Christmas in the Charts 1920–2004, but I don't want to do that until we can agree on the format of the article. Fortdj33 (talk) 20:46, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, now it looks like Fortdj33 doesn't even know how to act on a user talk page, by butting in on a conversation, acting as if I'm not involved here and even continuing to spread his false accusations here too. That's all I want to say on that (I mean, it evidently does no good to say anything anyway - because all he wants to do is cause strife). Anyway, back to the issue. Did you click on the link I gave? Here it is again. It should work. And I guess I'll have to remove some that just added after what Fortdj33 said. --Musdan77 (talk) 01:58, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Musdan77, I don't know why you continue to take this so personally. You are not the only person who is interested in improving this article, and you do not have the exclusive right to talk about it. I'm not sure why you think that I am trying to "cause strife", when I have pleaded several times for us to come to a consensus, and all you have done is argue with me. If you are open to having people contribute to the version on your sandbox, I can add the information there that I think is missing, and maybe then we can get closer to implementing it on the actual article. Fortdj33 (talk) 11:42, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

1) If you want to talk to me (civilly), you could/should do it on my talk page, not someone else's. (2) When I'm talking facts, it's not "arguing", it's debating/discussing. But when you continually accuse me of things that's beyond the pale, I have to call you out on it. --Musdan77 (talk) 21:57, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I initially came here to leave a message for Sliv812, and then you accused me of not knowing "how to act on a user talk page", which is why I directed my response at you. But once again, my response was about us working together towards a consensus, and yours was another personal attack...
Call it "debating" if you like, but every time you respond directly to me, it is always to tell me how wrong I am. I can provide numerous examples if you want me to "call you out on it", but I would much rather that we actually discuss how to improve the article. I really don't care where we discuss it, but how many different talk pages do you want to argue with me on?

Sliv812:

Obviously you and I are not the only editors who are invested in making sure the article List of popular Christmas singles in the United States is as accurate as possible. Since Musdan77 and I cannot seem to agree on what the format of the article should be, I would like to know what information you want to add from Christmas in the Charts 1920–2004. I'm not opposed to doing the research and making the edits, but hopefully we can agree on how it should be displayed. Fortdj33 (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fortdj33, it seems you are incapable of understanding how your words and actions affect others. Once again, you use the egregious term "personal attack", when you know how it offended me the first time and was even worse the second time – and I even showed how accusing someone of attacking (especially when it's not true) "is considered a form of personal attack" itself (and on Christmas Day! It's supposed to be a time of love, joy & peace!). And no, this not the place for that (actually no place is), and I wouldn't blame Sliv812 if he just deleted this whole section. And again, debating is part of discussion: each person tells how they believe they are right and how the other person is wrong – by giving the facts. And that's what I've done from the very beginning. —Musdan77 (talk) 20:53, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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