User talk:Skaptij

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Copied content from Gurdwara Panja Sahib

Gurdwara Panja Sahib (Punjabi: ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਪੰਜਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ (Gurmukhi), گردوارا پنجا صاحب (Shahmukhi); Urdu: گردوارہ پنجہ صاحب) is a famous gurdwara located in Hasan Abdal, Pakistan. The shrine is considered to be particularly important as the handprint of the founder of Sikhism, Guru Nanak, is believed to be imprinted on a boulder at the gurdwara.

History

According to Sikh legend, Guru Nanak along with Bhai Mardana reached Hasan Abdal in Baisakh Samwat 1578 B.K., corresponding to the summer of 1521 CE, when according to Sikh legend, Guru Nanak's handprint was imprinted onto a boulder. The Gurdwara was named Panja Sahib by Hari Singh Nalwa, the most famous general of the Sikh Empire. He is credited with having built the first gurdwara at the site.^[1]

-- edit -- However, the sanctity of this site long predates Sikhism, originating as a shrine within the Gandharan Buddhist kingdom of Taxila. Nearby still stand the ruins of a Buddhist monastery complex. In 630 AD, Xuanzang witnessed the shrine of the Nagaraja Elapatra 70 li northwest of Taksasila, where "its pure and limpid waters were fringed with lotus flowers of different colors." At the shrine, locals, accompanied by monks, would pray to the dragon for rain and for fair weather by snapping their fingers. ^[2] ^[3] ^[4] ^[5] ^[6] -- edit --

Legend

Under a shady cool tree, Guru Nanak and Bhai Mardana started reciting Kirtan and their devotees gathered around. This annoyed a local saint, Shah Wali Qandhari.

According to Sikh legend, Bhai Mardana was sent three times to Shah Wali Qandhari by Guru Nanak so that he would provide him with some water to quench his thirst. Wali Qandhari refused his request and was rude to him. In spite of this, Mardana still very politely stuck to his demand. The Wali remarked : "Why don't you ask your Master whom you serve?"

Mardana Ji went back to the Guru in a miserable state and said "Oh lord! I prefer death to thirst but will not approach Wali the egoist."

The Guru replied "Oh Bhai Mardana ji! Repeat the Name of God, the Almighty; and drink the water to your heart's content."

The Guru put aside a big rock lying nearby and a pure fountain of water sprang up and began to flow endlessly. Bhai Mardana quenched his thirst and felt grateful to the Guru.

On the other hand, the fountain of Shah Wali Qandhari dried up. On witnessing this, the Wali in his rage threw a part of a mountain towards the Guru from the top of the hill. The Guru stopped the hurled rock. Clear, fresh spring water gushes out from somewhere behind the rock and spills over into a very large pool. An imprint of a right hand was carved on the rock while it was built in the Mughal style by Maharaja Ranjit Singh (1780-1839).

Observing that miracle, Wali became the Guru's devotee.

-- edit -- An alternative version of this legend (representing a modified form of the original Buddhist narrative, with Nanak as the Buddha and Wali Qandhari as Elapatra) is as follows:

“Janak Raja had two servants, named Moti Ram and Nának. On the occasion of a particular sacrifice the Rája appointed separate duties to each of his servants, and amongst them Moti Rám was appointed to keep the door, and Nának to remove the leaves in which the food had been wrapped. During the ceremony a dog rushed in through the door towards the Rája. Moti Rám followed the dog and broke its back with a stick, when he was severely reproved by Nának for his cruelty.

Rája Janak then addressed his two servants saying, 'Moti Rám you have behaved as a Malechh, but you, Nának, as a man full of compassion. In the Kal-jug you will both be born again; Nának in Kálu Khatri's house in Talwandi, and Moti Rám as Wali in the house of a Mughal in Kandhár.'

When Bába Nának was reborn , he went to Wali's house in Kandhár, and said, 'Do you remember me?' 'No,' said Wali, 'but do you open my eyes.' Then Nának opened the eyes of Wali, and he saw and remembered his former birth, and fell at the feet of his former companion. Nának then turned Wali into wind and himself into water, and they both came to the town of Haro, which is now called Hasan Abdál, where Nának placed his hand on the rock, and they resumed their shapes. But ever since then the pure water has never ceased gushing forth from the rock, and the pleasant breeze has never ceased playing about the town of Haro." ^[7] -- edit --

References

^ Nalwa, V. (2009), Hari Singh Nalwa - Champion of the Khalsaji, New Delhi: Manohar, pp. 229-31, ISBN 81-7304-785-5
^ Watters T. (1904). On Yuan-Chwang's travels in India. pp 241-242 ISBN 81-2122-645-7
^ Gazetteers Of The Rawalpindi District 1893-94 (Robertson, F. A)
^ The Encyclopedia of Sikhism (over 1000 Entries) (Dr. H.S Singh)
^ Buddhist site in Hassanabdal almost lost to encroachers (Dawn.com)
^ Walking with Nanak (Haroon Khalid)
^ Gazetteers Of The Rawalpindi District 1893-94 Robertson, F. A

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I fixed a few formatting problems caused perhaps by trying to use the visual editor to make source code edits, but not all.

Comparing with the original, I can see where you have made additions, but I don't consider your sources to be cited well enough for a reader to be able to locate them for verification.

As best I can tell, almost all of the content has to be encapsulated in an advisory "according to legend" - this is a story that cannot otherwise be verified. It looks like you may have removed one of those, which I would argue is a mistake.

Your ability to follow the instructions you were given is only so-so. All of the images, categories, and probably the external links should have been removed before you started to make your improvements. I wish the instructions included a way for you to indicate your changes, to make it easier to focus on the improvements you are proposing. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:00, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have added back the reflist-talk template that you mistakenly removed when taking out image links and other stray content.

I found that the gazetteer reference is available at archive.org, but it is a book of almost 350 pages. In cases like these, you would want to include the URL https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.531243 and indicate the page number(s) where the information can be verified. If you can do the same for your other references, including ones that were already present, it would go a long way towards showing that you can make productive edits. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:51, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Nalwa, V. (2009), Hari Singh Nalwa - Champion of the Khalsaji, New Delhi: Manohar, pp. 229-31, ISBN 81-7304-785-5

[2] Watters T. (1904). On Yuan-Chwang's travels in India. pp 241-242 ISBN 81-2122-645-7

[3] Gazetteers Of The Rawalpindi District 1893-94 (Robertson, F. A)

[4] The Encyclopedia of Sikhism (over 1000 Entries) (Dr. H.S Singh)

[5] Buddhist site in Hassanabdal almost lost to encroachers (Dawn.com)

[6] Walking with Nanak (Haroon Khalid)

[7] Gazetteers Of The Rawalpindi District 1893-94 Robertson, F. A

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