User talk:Shaun Lawton

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Hello, Shaun Lawton. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:

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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. 2601:188:1:AEA0:D5FA:9AFC:6E2B:8DD (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please let us know if you're now using WP:MULTIPLE accounts to edit the same article. Thanks, 2601:188:1:AEA0:D5FA:9AFC:6E2B:8DD (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

== COI ==as

Hi Shaun Lawton, I'm sorry, but if you continue to add unsourced, promotional content and your personal interpretations to articles about you and your work, I'll request further administrative assistance. Thank you, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 13:17, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, my explanation, it's long but please bear with it because there may have been some outside interference: I am not aware that I added anything unsourced or promotional yesterday, biographical maybe since my play was never in print because it didn't get an official staging in London, I am the only source. Now a play that I have been variously told 'stood the world of British Theatre on its head'! is still being talked about 36 years on and the British press digs me up because one of its actors gets a grand slam of awards the world is rosy again! Then along comes google books taking over my page with its promotional shit and muscling all my stuff off - that had nothing to do with me! Google trashed my other browser! Then on top of that there are inaccuracies, insensitive mistakes.

I am totally indebted to Di Trevis for getting the play to Glasgow - it got the audiences it was written for! I'm even more indebted to Paul Kember for all the effort he put into it and for the advice he gave me. The girls in the play were known to me and were dear to me but Trevis could not handle the girl who had been sexually abused by her father and who continually, in an autistic manner, recounted her fathers dialogue talking to herself and the world at large in both the first and the third person - I grew up in that environment - Di Trevis cut so much away from her that she nearly lost her completely. The female reviewer in the Times Educational Supplement only saw 'A crazy whore!'

For the next run Citizens' Director Robert David MacDonald took over and said 'Let the author speak!' and suddenly it was the play I wrote, it worked beautifully! We even got better reviews! That's why I feel protective towards it. It inspired many, and was heavily plagiarised - Nigel Williams' Class Enemy' and Jim Cartwright's Road (and Jim played me 5 years earlier!) were both staged by the same theatre that turned my play down - without Desperado Corner they would never have existed. I am not a noted playwright, I am a totally unknown performance poet - I invented it, that's all -, it's my play that is a noted play and that's fine with me. I only completed one play with only one objective - to trash the two-dimensionality of left wing socialist working class ideology - and it succeeded big-time, in Glasgow, even in London with the people that originally turned it down!

For the next 35 years, due to the fear of blatant plagiarism, even as I continued to write, I never showed anything to anybody!

Until yesterday I've had no time for Wikipedia except for research, at least not since the 7th of November last year when Leonard Cohen died. I joined the National Poetry Society and have been too busy getting stuff together for competitions and publishing, writing in Cohen style about the irresponsibility and callousness of Brexit and the refugee crisis in the Med and in Germany. It was the google book pages that pushed their way in on Saturday that got me going, trying to get rid of them and - when that didn't work - trying to clean them up. I wouldn't put my own webpage on Wikipedia, it's 10 years out of date and it wouldn't bring me work anyway, and imdb doesn't bring me work, it's too US orientated and I canceled the pro section before Christmas - waste of time and money! I have youtube and, here in Germany we have Crew United - the site for all film personnel and showreels.

I knew the pages needed cleaning up but I'd given myself too many deadlines and I have to work as well - I work and live comfortably with my voice, I'm a story teller.

Whatever your criterion's are, mine have to come first. I'm 75 years old, a war child, I remember the V1's as a three-year-old in London and Brighton and I remembered them until I was a teenager when there were fewer propeller planes flying at night.

Unfortunately I don't understand your editing jargon anyway and I don't have the time to try and understand it. So when you yell down at me like a school teacher I either talk your heads off or clam up - that's why I failed English Language three times and didn't make it to university to become the astro-physicist I wanted to be and, instead became a street poet and rock singer.

PS: the opening line on the first google-book quote is a great compliment I hadn't heard before but the source is no longer available, so I thought I would steal it and correct it - there is no Desperado Corner without the girls and nobody in the history of theatre ever wrote a four act play until then Shaun Lawton (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC).[reply]

Sources, etc.[edit]

I have adjusted your most recent edit; my edit summary read thus: Find another way of putting the material in. You cannot just add to a Direct Quote. One could assume a noted playwright would know that! Alll the other detail should be sourced too. For example, haven't you got loads of old reviews and stuff. That would be gold dust. Note, btw, I am not encouraging you to make the edits yourself. — O Fortuna!^{Imperatrix mundi.} 10:09, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked[edit]

Not a week ago, I warned you, at length, about misusing Wikipedia to advertise yourself - that was, as you are entirely aware, on your alternate account User talk:Lall Baxterslad. Other uses have given you similar warnings. Since then, in this account, you've repeatedly editing articles with the sole purpose of advertising yourself. You've edit warred with others on the article about you, and today you've added anther swathe of non-notable self-promotion to the Redcar article. There's no evidence that you're interested in compromising or discussing with other users, and no evidence that you have any intention to contribute to Wikipedia for any legitimate purpose. For this reason, I have blocked you from editing. This applies not only to this account, but to the Lall Baxterslad account and to any other you may have or may create. -- Finlay McWalter··–·Talk 15:14, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]