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Your submission at Articles for creation: Redbrae Massacre (July 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by S0091 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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S0091 (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sharkzy! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! S0091 (talk) 21:49, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Redbrae Massacre has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Redbrae Massacre. Thanks! Greenman (talk) 18:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Redbrae Massacre (August 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Asilvering was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Not sure what's going on with this article - the lead should be a summary of the topic, starting with "The Redbrae Massacre was..."

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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asilvering (talk) 04:03, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Drumnamether

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A tag has been placed on Drumnamether requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-lower/mullaghbrack-oneilland-west-portion/mullaghbrack/drumnamether/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Moyrourkan

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Speedy deletion nomination of Clare (Ballymore)

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A tag has been placed on Clare (Ballymore) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-lower/ballymore/tanderagee/clare/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Sharkzy! Your additions to Drumnamether have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, it's important to understand and adhere to guidelines about using information from sources to prevent copyright and plagiarism issues. Here are the key points:

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices. Persistent failure to comply may result in being blocked from editing. If you have any questions or need further clarification, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:52, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Drumnamether for deletion

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IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:09, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sharkzy - I've pinged you for input at Talk:Drumnamether (to confirm if the consensus outcome of the previous Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Drumnamether discussion can/should/has been changed). Guliolopez (talk) 16:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Hi. What sources are you relying upon for the text of Draft:Redbrae Massacre? I cannot find any sources which refer to a topic by that name. A JSTOR search returns zero mentions of "redbrae massacre". Neither does a Google Book search. Even a broad Google search returns only the draft that you created (and related Wikipedia results). While the 18th century map/directory sources appear to mention a place called "Redbrae", neither mention the (apparent) events of 1641. The only other source in the draft also doesn't contain the word "Redbrae" or the term "Redbrae Massacre". What am I missing? Guliolopez (talk) 20:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Guliolopez I obtained the information on the Redbrae Massacre from page 38 of the book The History of Clare - The People, The Place and The Presbyterians. This book is not available on Google Books but is mentioned in multiple news articles.[1][2][3] Sharkzy (talk) 22:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Sharkzy. Thanks for your note/response. RE:

"I obtained the information on the Redbrae Massacre from page 38 of [a book not referenced in the articles/text on the topic]". OK. If that information is based on that book, is there a particular reason why you didn't then actually include it as a reference? (Personally, if I use a book as a source, I then reference it as a source.)
"The History of Clare - The People, The Place and The Presbyterians [..] is not available on Google Books". OK. Where is it available? Where did you source it? (That book, which appears to have ISBN 9781909751972 FWIW, doesn't seem to have been published in any material numbers. And appears to be available only as a "reference" book (one you can review but not "check out") in perhaps two libraries in the immediate Armagh area. Seemingly in the "local interest" section. It also, from what I can tell, appears to be a self-published work. Published by the author, per one of those webpages you link, "to raise funds for Clare Presbyterian Church". In a manner that may not meet applicable guidelines. Are you confident that WP:VER and WP:RS are met?
"information on the Redbrae Massacre [..is only on?..] page 38 of the book The History of Clare - The People, The Place and The Presbyterians". If that topic/subject is only known, by that name/title, on a single page of one (rare/limited?) book, are you confident that the WP:SIGCOV is met? Which typically expects that a topic be covered (in depth) in multiple reliable/verifiable sources. Before it might be covered (under its own title) as a standalone article? If there is (from what I can tell and based on what you appear to be saying) one page in one book which uses the term "Redbrae Massacre", are we even confident that this is how the topic should be addressed/titled?

Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 00:23, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guidelines

Hi. With thanks again for your continued contributions, as you expand your additions/edits to Wikipedia, you may wish to consider a few project norms and guidelines. Including:

MOS:DATEVAR/WP:ENGVAR. In articles relating to Britain and Ireland, we do not use "American" spelling and date formats. IE: "favour" as opposed to "favor". And "26 March 1967" as opposed to "March 26, 1967". Etc.
WP:RS/WP:UGC. Text should be supported by reliable sources. User-generated content (like the captions added by the uploaders of images to Geograph and Wikimedia Commons) are unlikely to be considered reliable. Please use more reliable sources.
WP:NPOV/WP:TONE. Editors are expected to follow the guidelines on neutrality, promotional tone and (where relevant) attributing any subjective opinions that are expressed. The Tandragee 100 article that you recently created, for example, is overtly promotional in tone. Also, describing flowers in a forest (or pretty much anything) as "beautiful" is not normally appropriate. Consider, as the saying goes, that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Terms like this can/should only be used if the "beholder" is identified and the opinion-held is attributed.
MOS:EDITORIAL/MOS:NOTE. Please also avoid editorialising and using "instructional and presumptuous language". If an event was/is "historically significant" (and unless, as above, the person describing it as such can be identified/attributed) there is no reason to instruct the reader on how they should interpret or classify that event. Same goes for describing someone or something as "famous" (If you have to tell the reader that something is "famous", then is it?).

All the best and thanks again. Guliolopez (talk) 19:02, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]