User talk:Sepium Gronagh

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Your edits

Hi there. Could I please ask that you use the preview button when making a series of edits to a page rather than making a long series of small edits and saving each one every time? I've got the AFD discussion you're participating in on my watchlist, and it's bouncing to the top constantly with every edit that you make. It's usually considered a better move to use preview than multiple saves, and it makes it easier for any other editors who want to edit to do so without hitting an edit conflict. Thanks.

I'd also suggest that you keep cool in the discussion of the Jade Raymond AFD; voluminous, argumentative comments sometimes can swing discussions away from the point of said comments. It's best to look at how best to meet the concerns raised in the delete requests, such as the need for good reliable sources to expand the article's sourcing. If you can find good sourcing to help assert notability, that would be useful. Cheers. Tony Fox (arf!) 20:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response. My note above wasn't a case of my being "notified disruptively" of anything - it was just that the discussion page was bouncing to the top of my watchlist regularly, and I thought it'd be good to let you know there was an easier way of doing things when making lots of small edits.

I appreciate the comments you're making with regards to the issue of sexism and its effect on Ms. Raymond, but should note that the majority of the views in the discussion right now are to keep the article, and none of them seem to be expressing any of the misogynistic concerns you're pointing out. This is why I mentioned to the one participant in the discussion to assume good faith - everyone on Wiki is encouraged to do so, and I'd ask that you do so as well. Nominations of articles that seem non-notable happen at the rate of several hundred a day between AFD and speedy deletion requests; it's possible that a few of them are targeted for some reason other than notability. In this case, the article as it stood when I first looked at it had no sources and a questionable expression of notability, so it's not unsurprising that someone would nominate it for discussion. Often, AFD turns out as a way to improve an article, rather than delete it - I've rescued numerous articles by finding good reliable sources.

I expect the article will be kept at this point, though it has several days to go before a decision will be made. You're more than welcome to work on it while it's up for AFD; you've found some sources, and they're sure to help out on asserting notability. I'd suggest that you find some more sources, then add detail to the article based on them. Take a look at WP:CITE to learn the best way of adding references - inline citations is pretty popular these days. With that help, it's sure to stick around. Cheers. Tony Fox (arf!) 23:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

Sorry for accusing you of being a sockpuppet, the fact that your contributions are solely directed at a single page, and that your account was only created when the AfD came up, clouded my judgement. I've had to deal with a lot of vandalism on Jade Raymond's page, and this has made me cynical about contributors, though I wouldn't class "Sockpuppetry?" as a character attack. As a side point, can you simplify you English a bit, it took me several passes at "Since when is a false and unverifiable accusation as to intent validated by negative spin on another user's posting frequency?" to understand what you meant. Anyway, much apologies for the accusation, it won't happen again, welcome to Wikipedia! =) Fin ©™ 12:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]