User talk:Seokandasamy
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Speedy deletion nomination of Antique-rugs
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A tag has been placed on Antique-rugs, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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July 2013
[edit] Hello, I'm Zymurgy. I noticed that you recently removed all content from Antique carpets, with this edit, without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, I restored the page's content. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Zymurgy (talk) 05:49, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Antique carpets
[edit]Please don't recreate it. If you wish to discuss this, please do. I'm listening. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry
[edit]It's clear that you are User talk:Seokandasamyg and editing disruptively. Please stop immediately. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:26, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Antique decorative rugs
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A tag has been placed on Antique decorative rugs requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.dorisleslieblau.com/antique-rugs/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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Final warning
[edit]You keep recreating the same, deleted article under different names and uploading images you likely don't own. You started out simply to promote your organization, and now you're persisting with this and not communicating. I asked you where you got the images and you said nothing. I've asked you to stop recreating the article, and you said nothing. You also just switched to a different account. This is all completely disruptive. Consider this your final warning. If you persist any longer with this behaviour, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:04, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
antique_carpets
[edit]Dear Mr.Anna Frodesiak, I am a new user of Wikipedia. So, I don't know about Talk pages. Can you help me for displaying antique_carpets link
<http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Seokandasamyg&oldid=566223462&diff=prev> Do you own those images? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:27, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Message
[edit] Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Deleted the tag Antique Carpets
[edit]Hello there. I can indeed help you add page in Wikipedia. Please tell me about your new accounts and I'll be happy to act immediately. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Want to add in wikipedia (Title=Antique rugs)
[edit]Hi Anna, Can you help me how to add this article as new?
Antique Rugs
Wanting to know about antique rugs would redirect you to Persian Rugs and Carpets, which are no doubt, the oldest and the most refined manifestation of the skill in weaving. Originally, as the name suggests, Persian Carpets and rugs came from Persia (the modern day Iran), where they were entitled “Kohorasaan Rugs” or “Bukhara Rugs” depending on where they were produced. Secrecy and Eastern tradition are almost concluded in these ancient rugs. The beautiful amalgamation of colors, complemented by sophisticated designs and intricate patterns have made handmade Persian rugs a product that exudes uniqueness, art and peace.
The art of weaving was kept a secret for a very long time where the skills were passed down from one generation to another, until carpet and rug manufacturing, like other handcrafted items, commercialized. Now, copies of the Persian antique rugs in design, style and weaving are available in other parts of the world, many of which are cheaper substitutes. Modern day Iran exports 80 per cent of the rugs that are produced there. Moreover, the industry of antique rugs that were manufactured many years ago, still flourishes as the demand for these rare and exquisite items increases.
Modern day carpets and rugs are produced on machines as well, like many other things that have attained a commercial value. These items too have become more of an industry than an art. However, this has by no means reduced the popularity of these rugs and carpets.
Antique rugs are often the prized possession of the family and they are passed down to the next generation. While these are also a need that simply protect the feet against cold and damp, they have long since been a symbol of wealth in the homes of noblemen and Kings. In the present world, many companies are dedicated to preserving the originality of these rugs by maintaining and strengthening the fiber and wool, by cleaning and by fortifying the colors.
History
Rug weaving is an old art that existed in Persia during 500 B.C. It went through many changes from its inception to its adaptation by other neighboring countries. Archaeologists have been unable to find much evidence in form of carpets and rugs because with time wool, silk and other organic material used in weaving decays. A few worn out pieces have not sufficed in providing enough evidence for useful discoveries.
It is quite possible that people, who were not in contact with each other, started making rugs at the same time at different places. It is equally likely that carpet weavers travelled from place to place, offering their skilful services to create a masterpiece for people who could afford what was considered “frugal” in those times.
On basis of these worn out pieces found in Egypt, it can be safely concluded that the art of flat weaving existed 4000 years ago. In Middle East and other parts of Asia, it existed long before 2000 BC. Ancient nomadic tribes of Central and West Asia were inclined towards the use of woolen carpets against severe cold. Weaving itself, is one of the oldest crafts of the world, that has also been mentioned in Old Testament. Document evidence for weaving in Persia belongs to the period of Sassanid Dynasty which ruled the region, for around four centuries, beginning in the third century.
Rugs were also being woven in China two thousand years ago, however, this did not develop as a proper industry until the mid of eighteenth century.
The earliest antique rug found comes from Safavid dynasty (1501-1736) in the 16th century. The oldest known carpet is called “The Pazryk Carpet” and is approximately 2400 years old. It has a complicated geometrical design with estimated 225 knots per square inch.
In Iran, major producers of antique rugs were Herat (1525-1650), Kashan (1525-1650), Kerman (1600-1650) and Tabriz (1500-1550). The industry saw many ups and downs as it was occupied by different dynasties, however, it survived the changes.
Designs
While contemporary rugs might be weaving animals and humans into patterns, oriental rugs from Persia have characteristic designs involving overlapping vines, medallions ( a central one with more on the corners sometimes), cloud bands and geometric compartments. One reason could be the forbiddance of depicting humans and animals in Islam, which is the dominant religion in this part of the world. Majority of Tabriz rugs for example, have a central medallion that is complemented by more medallions at the corners and all of them are entwined in overlapping vines. Sometimes the intricacy is accentuated by combat and hunting scenes.
Herat rugs are characterized by dark green and blue borders on red field. They are adorned with scrolling vine and palmettes and were produced in the highest numbers.
Kashan rugs are mostly produced by using silk and are the most expensive of the known Persian antique rugs. They are famous for depicting mountain hunters and their prey or combat scenes of the like.
Kerman rugs have been classified into seven major classes because of their origin of production and knotting styles.
There are some symbols and motifs in Persian rugs that symbolize something. The Parrot for example, would mean escaping from danger and seeking protection. Peony would mean power and Peacocks would be an insignia of immortality. The Tree of Path is a reminder of Hell and Heaven while the Dog would depict protection trust and defence. The Mihrab would signify the door to paradise and it is still a part of many rugs and carpets that are used for performing religious obligations in Islamic families. The religion we see, influenced the design of Persian rugs to a great extent. It reminds us of The Renaissance period during which many of the paintings created by renowned artists carried secret messages to their brethren. Those who read rugs have asserted that some of these symbols might not be in their clear form, rather it would be a vague spot or few knots in the crude form.
Even the colours used in Ancient Rugs had a meaning. Gold for instance would mean power and wealth, while orange meant humility and piety. Courage, Joy, Luck, Wealth, Beauty and Faith were implied messages in the most commonly used field color; Red. Black that was usually only found in outlines meant mourning and destruction.
Production Techniques And Materials
KPSI or Knots Per Square Inch is the number of knots weaved into one square inch of the carpet or rug. As a general rule, greater the number of knots, the more durable and the more expensive the rug is going to be because it reflects color in a better way and it is smoother. Valuable hand knotted ancient rugs are made from a single knot (that continues) because it makes the rug look flatter. Just like a screen with greater number of pixels gives a better picture, more knots on the rugs make the design look clearer.
Natural fibers used in the production of Persian antique rugs were animal and plant fibers, silk, jute, animal hair and sisal. Synthetic materials used in the production of rugs are rayon, acrylic, nylon, viscose and olefin.
The kind of material being used in the making is what the Persian rug derives its value from. If made from natural material, the rug is going to be high in value because these materials offer excellent durability, don’t carry allergic substances, don’t deteriorate or fade with time (at a pace as fast as synthetic) and stay clean longer and better because they do not imbibe dirt.
Ancient Rugs are an expensive item all the same. This can be realized from the fact that one was sold in Germany for $20,000 in 1969. Given the time, this was quite lavish but then again, the feeling of grandeur, richness and wealth associated with these rugs are characteristic of the value that these rugs possess.
Rugs Today
As far as handicrafts are concerned, rug weaving is by far the most lucrative industry in Iran and a well known industry abroad. Known for their richness of pattern, colors and style, these Persian rugs are a craving for many people who want to adorn their traditional homes with something that is an emblem of tradition in itself. Though modern rugs are mostly produced on machines, in Iran some places are still popular for their hand-woven rugs and carpets like Shiraz Rugs, Baluch Rugs and Wiss Rugs.
Rugs that were once a mere floor covering have now found their place on walls, thus anything that complements the decor has also found a place in the industry; like wall hangers for rugs and carpets. Contemporary rugs of the Persian style have combined designs from the old and newer versions. Better designing facilities and better modes of transportation have made it possible for rugs to find homes in places far away from their native lands, such as Northern America and Canada.
The Carpet Museum of Iran has successfully preserved the stories that can be unraveled by these items depicting culture, richness, beauty and grandeur. The history of Persian rug weaving is unfolded at this place.
You talked about your other accounts. Please tell me. Thanks. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:36, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
August 2013
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. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:14, 2 August 2013 (UTC)You persisted in recreating that article in order to promote your organization. After final warning (above) you created Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Antique Rugs and Carpets. If you wish to edit constructively in a way that has nothing to do with adding your website to Wikipedia, please communicate. I have blocked your other account, also used for the same purpose. If you create any more accounts, I will block them for block evasion. If you create that same article or add your website again to any article, I will remove it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:18, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Antique Rugs and Carpets
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Seokandasamy (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Dear Anna, I am very sorry. Please give permission to add article in Wikipedia. I am new user of Wikipedia. I want to add this Article it is very important, because my manager gave me the article who don't know about this article deleted and blocked. If he knows about this deleted, who will scold me or will dismiss me from my job. So please accept my articles. Initially, I don't know about speedy deletion because I did not go to Article wizard page, after you deleted I find this page. So please, please help for working in wikipediaSeokandasamy (talk) 04:06, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Sorry, it appears your intent is to continue the same behavior you were blocked for. I'm sorry your boss is confused about the purpose of the encyclopedia; I can't help you with that. Kuru (talk) 18:15, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- Hi Seokandasamy. I'm sorry. I will not unblock you and I will not add the article to the encyclopedia. The article has lots of issues and is unsourced other than your company website. Please tell your boss the following:
Hello manager: Please don't scold or dismiss Seokandasamy. It's not his fault. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not a free advertising medium, and that's what you were trying to use it for. Please consider spending money on newpaper advertising instead. Thank you.
- Maybe another administrator will unblock you. That is always a possibility. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:22, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Please unblock
[edit]Please Anna, let me access my account and add this article this one time, hereafter i will do follow as properly, please kindly give me permission to add this article. I am nervous because my manager is very strict type, I am afraid tell him about this too. please please I don't know other way to add and as he told to use office email id I was change new account. So please, please accept
- Why does your manager want you to add the article? Is it because he wants his website added somewhere in it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:21, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
request for unlock
[edit]Hi Anna, he wants to create a article page and want to add a site in bottom side. He always ask me what happened? what happened? I told him to waiting for approval
Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:50, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
Message
[edit] Hello. You have a new message at Anna Frodesiak's talk page. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:48, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Discussion about your request
[edit]Please discuss things here about your situtation. I asked at my talk page "Is it copy pasted from that site? Could you please give me the exact page(s). I couldn't find them. Thanks." Please reply here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:52, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
request for unlock
[edit]This is not a copy paste, This is written as own, the website using for source and reference purpose
- That's great! If you would like the article to be part of Wikipedia, please find lots and lots of sources to support the facts. But remember, those sources cannot be your company website. Okay? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:22, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
I see you're back
[edit]I believe you are User:Krishnakumar187 who just created Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Doris Leslie Blau. I deleted it as purely promotional. Please, no more sockpuppet accounts. No more attempts to create articles to promote your carpet company. Please, just give up and pay for advertising. Thank you, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)