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Happy editing! PersusjCP (talk) 15:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Qcne (talk) 08:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @SeaTraff, please add some WP:CATEGORIES to the new article. Happy editing! Qcne (talk) 08:38, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Buck Lake (Kitsap County) (May 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Samoht27 was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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These sources seem to only confirm the lake exists, not how the lake is notable.

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-Samoht27 (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, SeaTraff! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! -Samoht27 (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Horseshoe Lake (Kitsap County) has been accepted

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Bkissin (talk) 19:27, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Citation formats

Hello. I've noticed you've been using inconsistent date formats in your citations and would like to remind you that for U.S. topics, per MOS:DATETIES, it is recommended that MDY be used instead of DMY. Also, be mindful of what goes in the website parameter, as some of these should be listed under publisher. Sounder Bruce 21:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Will keep in mind SeaTraff (talk) 21:28, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Buck Lake (Kitsap County) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Buck Lake (Kitsap County). Thanks! Shadow311 (talk) 23:00, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Buck Lake (Kitsap County) has been accepted

Buck Lake (Kitsap County), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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SL93 (talk) 22:11, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kitsap (Suquamish leader)

Hey! Thanks for giving me the impetus for working on Kitsap's article, which I have been meaning to do for a while! Counting both of our edits, we have expanded the article 5x which means it is eligible for WP:DYK. Would you like to jointly submit a nomination? I might go and try to find any other sources on him, but for now I think I've covered mostly everything. Also, please go through and add anything you see fit. For example, I couldn't find the claim about Fort Kitsap. While I assume it was named for him, I'm not sure where it was written in Buerge's book. But do go ahead and add/change anything else too. PersusjCP (talk) 05:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Thank you so much for expanding the article. When I saw how little information was on the wiki page I knew I had to see what I could do, despite the few (and at times confusing) sources available. When I read Buerge's book it provided a lot more clarity so I came back to the page to correct some mistakes I made previously. Love the information you added, it's like a real biography page now!

Also: Still a little confused-- it was in fact Kitsap of the Suquamish that was involved as a "hostile" in the Indian War, correct?

Buerge interprets Tolmie's writing as Chief Kitsap being murdered in the 1830s (pg 49), unless I'm interpreting it wrong.

Another Kitsap, I believe the Skopamish one, is introduced on page 145 as a "hostile" Indian- "Kitsap (a Green River headman with the ancestral name of his older kinsman)", then there's a follow-up on page 188- "Kitsap's own Green River people murdered him" which leads me to believe it wasn't Suquamish Kitsap who was the medicine man that died in 1860. Though HistoryLink reports Kitsap of the Suquamish died in 1860. Would have to do a little math but it seems a bit unlikely for Kitsap of the Suquamish to have lived that long from years before the Vancouver encounter to 1860, while being a warrior chief to the end of his life.

Lastly on the Fort Kitsap part, I'll admit I made the assumption and I don't have a direct reference to that so feel free to change/remove if needed.

I borrowed the book on Chief Seattle from a library so I unfortunately have to return it tomorrow. I looked through the index and briefly browsed through the book and I think we've included everything from the biography on Chief Seattle.

Once again, thanks a bunch for the additional information to the article of my county's namesake, and once you think everything's good I wouldn't be opposed to a DYK nomination, though being a pretty new editor, I'm not entirely sure how the submission process works.

SeaTraff (talk) 07:41, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are correct. I'll remove the parts that are attributed to the Green River/Skopamish Kitsap. Thanks for the catch! Since the HistoryLink article said that, I assumed it was correct, but it seems to be a mistake. PersusjCP (talk) 22:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SeaTraff Do you have any ideas for an interesting hook? Here are the guidelines.

My idea: (Did you know) ... that in 1825, the Suquamish leader Kitsap led an alliance of tribes stretching from the Columbia River to Puget Sound to stop the Cowichan slave raids wreaking havok on the Sound? PersusjCP (talk) 22:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like the hook! I think it would be interesting to reference the armada of 200 canoes but not sure if there’s a way to fit that in. I’d also change to the more common spelling of havoc. Looking good! SeaTraff (talk) 08:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]