User talk:Scotanist

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Draft:Brassinosteroid Insensitive-1

I've moved your draft to Draft:Brassinosteroid Insensitive-1 where you can work on it until it's ready for publication. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 10:38, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's still not ready but I'm not going to push my view as the only view. I've tagged it for the same projects that I found at Talk:Plant hormone so I hope you'll be able to get the right kind of help to develop the article further. The page needs to be added to categories. The links you've chosen to add seem strange to me, passing over the obvious plant hormones yet linking leucine-rich receptor-like protein kinase which is so specific & obscure that it's never likely to have an article. The lede needs to be more clear - you need to write for a general public, not an audience of biochemists. There's no harm in going in to detail later on but, as written, it's going to lose most readers before the end of the first sentence.

Regards, Cabayi (talk) 12:05, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I should also mention that the house style is not in favour of all-caps article titles. What you've linked as BRI1 KINASE INHIBITOR 1 would more likely be created as BRI1 Kinase Inhibitor 1. The Manual of Style is a good place to check. Cabayi (talk) 12:12, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback on the article. I'm conflicted about the house style regarding all-caps articles. I appreciate that wiki has a house style, but in the field of molecular biology there is a very specific nomenclature re caps and italics. E.g, BRI1 KINASE INHIBITOR 1 (BAK1) is a gene, BRI1 KINASE INHIBITOR 1 (BAK1) is a protein product of that gene, and bri1 kinase inhibitor 1 (bak1) is a version of the BAK1 gene that contains a mutation. Do you have any advice about what to do in this kind of situation? Using "BRI1 Kinase Inhibitor 1" is technically wrong, and may cause confusion for biology students.Scotanist (talk) 09:23, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'll skip over the biology side of it (recognising the limits of my C-grade Biology O Level from 30+ years ago) and suggest:

Turn on HotCat, which you can find at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, which will make it easier to...
Add some categories to the article, which in turn will make it easier to...
Find similar articles and see how they've handled it.
Ask at WT:MCB, or check the project's talk archives.
Refer to MOS:MCB, the style guide for this topic area.

If you find similar articles, you may want to check their Wikidata item, if they have one, which is linked in the list of links on the left hand side of the page. I had a look at wikidata for BRI1... items, it looks like you're the first in this area. The wikidata info will automatically populate an {{Authority control}} template at the bottom of the page if you add it, and any infobox (MOS:MCB#Infoboxes) you may add.

While you're adjusting your preferences, you may like ProveIt which makes adding citations a lot easier. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 11:44, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you found quite a bit of that while I was typing my response. :-) Cabayi (talk) 12:02, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]