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Nomination of Dirty House for deletion

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I think it's about time to report this article for being too long. Another person added some more information. I'm tired of editing. It really needs to get edited. It's looking more like a fan article. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 00:41, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I totally agree and despair that after those comments on the talkpage even more unnecessary detail was added, but when you say report what exactly do you mean?.--SabreBD (talk) 09:11, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Well maybe report's a bad word, but I'm trying to bring attention to how too long it is (I added the too long templates last night) and how to break it down. At the rate this article is going, people are not gonna think this is a really good article if it don't get some kind of copyedit. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 15:46, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
My view, as I suggested on the talk page, is that it we should put it forward at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. I think that would lead to a good pruning, if anyone there is prepared to tackle it. Perhaps if several editors agree to that course of action, it could be expedited? Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
That sounds like a good plan. I am much happier with that than the idea of going to GA knowing that the article is not in a fit state for that. It also occurs to me that peer review might be a possibility. However, whatever we do the fact remains that an editor may just put it all back in over time.--SabreBD (talk) 16:20, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Yeah it don't need a GA right now. It's all jumbled up. It's kinda sad because here's one of the greatest artists of all time and his article quotes verbatim from Charles White. That's not the way to make this article as good as it should be. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 17:48, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Do we think a copy edit, or a peer review, is better? I don't have experience of either, but I think we've got the momentum to move to one or the other. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:12, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm good with either or. I did request a copy edit but you can request a peer review. An article like this, it might actually need both. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 21:26, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
Why not see how the copy edit goes for now. We can always fall back on the review.--SabreBD (talk) 00:20, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm good with that. BrothaTimothy (talk · contribs) 01:08, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

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Wow, did you even look at what I had done before you reverted it? The History of Scotland article is already riddled with contradictory citation formatting from intermingled plain text and templates, missing information such as publishers, and repeated references. Fixing those problems was my motivation, not what you impugned. Of course WP:CT doesn’t require conformation, but articles should be as completely referenced and internally consistent as possible. That background work is something that editors can do, freeing up experts such as yourself to concentrate on content.

It makes no matter to me, as I’m a gnome and will easily take my efforts elsewhere. But you might want to reconsider your over-protective policy before the next person comes to help, lest you appear to be Smaug, hovering over a treasure that isn’t really yours.

Molly-in-md (talk) 11:52, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

I have given this 24 hours as there seems to be a lot of heat here. I think you are at the very least close to breaking the WP:AOBF guideline here, for what was, I assure you a good faith edit and not conducted in the spirit of ownership. If you want to discuss this issue I am very happy to do so, but I think it would be wise to wait a little longer before replying and then perhaps we can just forget what is above this point and deal with the issues in a friendly and respectful way.--SabreBD (talk) 15:04, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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About Disco

Hi Sabrebd. My intention was to undo the deletion of sourced content... but it looks like I either didn't do that, or didn't communicate that particularly well. I'll be more careful in future. Always good to be get constructive feedback... and thank you for not templating me! Peter aka --Shirt58 (talk) 08:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi there Peter. I think you did revert it successfully, but the IP came in and did some different damage, which the AnomieBOT only corrected reference and did not restore. I was only going back to your edit and not undoing it I think.--SabreBD (talk) 14:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

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important changes in the list of genres page

I've noticed that an anonymous contributor took upon him/herself to promote sub-genres to the level of genres. (wiki.riteme.site/wiki/List_of_popular_music_genres)

Punk (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Punk_music) and Metal (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Metal_music) pages identify them as sub-genres of rock.

I intend to reverse the changes but wanted to bring the issue to your attention in case I am missing something

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Gauvins (talk) 19:36, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah good catch, I knew something was screwed up, but couldn't work out what it was. I have hopefully fixed it with a revert. Cheers.--SabreBD (talk) 23:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

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Deep Purple article

Hey there. Would appreciate your input on the Deep Purple article as a user with various usernames deletes referenced material and editorializes giving their own opinion. The user also removes the general classification of "rock" band (from a band that is associated with a number of genres), to "hard rock" band. Thanks for your assistance. Aus Pilots (talk) 18:10, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I will take a look. Do you suspect a sock here?--SabreBD (talk) 19:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Genre warrior at Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and Led Zeppelin pages

Thank you lots for helping clean up the edits of 46.159.108.163. I want to bring to your attention that the IPs 46.159.212.146 and 46.159.88.17 performed congruent edits over a similar span of time on 14 December 2012 and 26 February 2013, respectively. I've dealt with similar individuals before, and these IP hopping genre warriors can be a pain in the butt. These people attract so much attention to themseles when they do this, and also waste a lot of time and edits. Is there a way to stop #46 from doing one of these genre changing sprees of 35+ minutes in the future, so that the issue potentially decreases in seriousness?

On a somewhat related note, I dealt with an especially severe genre warring IP hopper for over three years, but that ended in April 2012 come this discussion (this discussion took place before I changed my name from Backtable). Mungo Kitsch (talk) 08:28, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome and thanks for your efforts on this one and previous outbreaks of genreitus. I think it might be possible to ban an underlying range that would prevent someone from editing from those closely related ips. The difficulty is that this might not be seen as vandalism or sufficiently disruptive. I think perhaps I should approach one of the most diligent and open minded admins and ask them if they could help.--SabreBD (talk) 08:41, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Mungo asked me to chime in here, so here are my thoughts: The edits definitely aren't vandalism, though if they continue with sufficient frequency, they will be equally disruptive. The key is to establish a defined range that the genre warrior uses on a regular basis. All that can really be done is to watch and wait; if the editor comes back, make a note of the IP address. If it's in the same range, I would consider asking for a range-block. Most of the pages are on my watchlist, so I'll be keeping an eye on the situation as well. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 19:45, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
I am sure you are right. Its not vandalism and there probably needs to be more to rate as disruptive. We can keep an eye on the IPs and see what happens.--SabreBD (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

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Good call

... this and similar. I already had removed the blatant unsourced npov descriptions, and was about to undo the edits entirely. You beat me to it. Do you leave another message at the IP's talk page? Cheers - DVdm (talk) 14:30, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, and thanks for dealing with the unsourced text. Its always a relief to feel you are not on your own. I have posted an explanation on the IP's talkpage.--SabreBD (talk) 14:38, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
So true, that relief to feel you are not on your own :-) — Cheers and keep up the good work. - DVdm (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

About Ring around the Rosie

Hi!

Just curious, why did you delete my theory on the Ring around the Rosie rhyme?

Best regards

Elin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.180.173.2 (talk) 20:47, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Because it is unsourced original research and the theory is dealt with in some detail in the article. I am putting some links on your talkpage that you can follow to find more about how Wikipedia works. I hope that helps.--SabreBD (talk) 20:56, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Bill Tobleman is back reverting your edits back to those of his web site, just FYI. --Seduisant (talk) 19:25, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I will see what can be done. Much appreciated.--SabreBD (talk) 19:54, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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Blue Cheer and the Heavy Metal Genre

Please see the second notice at the top of this talkpage.--SabreBD (talk) 16:57, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Scottish society

Hi Sabrebd, it occurred to me that we could use a photo from the Highland Folk Museum, I've added one that might perhaps suit? The society section is much improved, thanks for the effort as I'm sure it was worth it. The article is very nearly there, with one clarification left. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:46, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Reverting my changes

Hello. You recently reverted my changes to Led Zeppelin. Actually, if you have a look at what I did, you'll find out that none of them need to be discussed at the talk page. There are major sourcing issues in your version, incorrect page numbers, several unreliable sources, etc. Thanks for paying attention. MadeinJapan (talk · contribs) 22:04, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Why don't you explain that on the talkpage - as WP:BRD requires to do?--SabreBD (talk) 22:06, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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For your contributions to bring Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John to Good Article status. Thanks, and keep up the good work! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks for this and for a quick, courteous review and considered review, all of which is much appreciated.--SabreBD (talk) 15:56, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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Autopatrolled

Hi Sabrebd, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! INeverCry 19:12, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for the quick decision. Hopefully it will save patrollers a little bit of work.--SabreBD (talk) 19:15, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Award images

Great job on the new image, have you seen the program from the Kennedy awards ? Heart's Stairway to Heaven rendition is very good, (the whole salute to Zepp is great) and I've believed that Zeppelin or Floyd should never be covered :p. Mlpearc (powwow) 19:29, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

April 2013

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re: Glam metal

It's disappointing that you are making the inclusion of this information so difficult. Certainly you must be aware of its accuracy, sourcing concerns notwithstanding. Did you live through this era or have you only read about it? ChakaKongtalk 18:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

I have a notice on the top of this page about where it is appropriate to post about articles, no one ever reads this notice. I am happy to discuss the points about sources on the talkpage of the article. I am not getting into a discussion about whether "I was there" on this page.--SabreBD (talk) 18:43, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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User:Sabrebd/sandbox

Hope you don't mind too much, but I nicked a wee bit from your sandbox for new article:

In retrospect, I ought to have named your sandbox as the origin of those sentences in the Edit summary. Can no doubt be resolved via Talk or new Edit summaries. Please assist with the new piece if you can/feel inclined. When is your sandbox piece going "live" by the way? Cheers. --Mais oui! (talk) 08:54, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Its no problem - feel free. The truth is I got a bit stuck on sourcing the the naval sections, but I have found a few more and will put them in when I recover the enthusiasm. Good idea for an article by the way, I will chip in with the bits I find along the way if that is OK.--SabreBD (talk) 16:22, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Romanticism in Scotland

I've made the initial round of comments for the GA review; let me know your thoughts when you have a chance. Thanks for your work on this one, it's really terrific. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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I'm just dropping you a quick note about a new Wikipedian in Residence job that's opened up at the National Library of Scotland. There're more details at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scotland#Wikimedian in Residence at the National Library of Scotland. Richard Symonds (WMUK) (talk) 15:00, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - much appreciated.--SabreBD (talk) 17:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

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Ha ha, who indeed. Many thanks, I much appreciate the barnstar. That will probably keep me trying to understand Scottish post-impressionism for several months.--SabreBD (talk) 08:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Crass again

Hi. Almost a year ago you took a look at the Crass article, to see if it was fit for GA. You rightly said it wasn't. I've been doing quite a bit of work on the article recently[1] and I wonder if it is going in the right direction. If you have the time to take a look and perhaps leave me some remarks, I'd appreciate it.  Yinta 16:46, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

OK. I will take a look and let you know how I think a GA might go.--SabreBD (talk) 18:13, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks.  Yinta 20:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
It is definitely going in the right direction. It is much better sourced and I think that will be fine for a GA from that point of view. There are some issues over little things like punctuation, particularly stray full stops and use of logical punctuation, but that is all minor and easily fixable. There may be an issue with the number of non-free images, because Wikipedia has a policy of minimum use, but they have non-free rationales, so I think you could try and see what happens. I may have missed something significant about the text as I was just having a quick look, but I think you have done really good work here and with a bit of a copy edit this could go to GA again. It would be great to get this to GA status. I hope that helps. Let me know if you need more detail or help.--SabreBD (talk) 20:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your remarks. Help is always appreciated, especially since English isn't my first language (nor my second) so copy editing isn't my strongest point. In any case, I'll continue working on the article. I don't expect the images will be much of a problem. The only non-free ones are the logo (pretty essential to the article, I'd say) and the Loving ad. Like you said, they have rationales and these seem valid to me. Again, thank you for your quick check.  Yinta 20:51, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
If you are not confident you might want to request a copyedit before going to GA at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. They can be very helpful.--SabreBD (talk) 21:41, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

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Led Zeppelin

Hi, Sabrebd! I just wanted to let you know that sometime in May I intend to take Led Zeppelin through the FAC process. Since you were the last one to nominate it, I thought I would extend the offer of a co-nomination to you, if you're interested. There's still work to be done, but I think that, thanks to the hard work of yourself and a lot of other editors, it's not too far off now. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 00:53, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes I am very interested and I think a co-nomination with your would be a great way to do this and May will suit me very well. I noticed you had been busy tidying up. I will try to recheck the previous reviews to make sure we have caught as many snags as possible.--SabreBD (talk) 06:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Sounds great! If you come across anything you think I could help with, just let me know. We'll both keep working on it, and I'm sure it won't be too long before it's ready to be nominated. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 23:55, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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#46 troll, again

Hey there. As you already know, the #46 genre warrior has returned again. This means that we have a long-term problem which needs fixing very soon. Should the pages be semi-protected or should a range block of 46.159.XXX.XXX be implemented? The IP used this time is 46.159.182.219. Man, this guy is ridiculous. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 19:30, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

So I see. I have made an appeal for a range block at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#IP genre waring. Thanks for alerting me. Lets hope this slows the process.--SabreBD (talk) 20:39, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
FWIW, I think this IP is a sock of User:MadeinJapan. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 23:54, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I didn't think of that one. Is it a case that can be made?--SabreBD (talk) 07:02, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'm not the best when it comes to making a case. I would just keep an eye out for tells and document them in a file for later use should a case present itself. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 19:55, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Are you aware that your signature

is currently not only messed up but is taking every page it's added to with it? I think it's because of a rogue </span>. Add your signature here and I'll toy with it and see if I can find a solution.--Launchballer 18:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

No I was not aware, I am not seeing any problems.--SabreBD (talk) 22:47, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
SabreBD (talk)
It's not causing any issues here, but here it's causing the timestamp of your post to become the same font as your signature.--Launchballer 23:12, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm not seeing it there either. Is this an issue with certain browsers?--SabreBD (talk) 23:31, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Whoopee!

This user thinks that registration should be required to edit articles.
FYI?   [2], [3]
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:20, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the edits and this. I am starting to agree with the anti-anon sentiment. All the best.--SabreBD (talk) 12:48, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

(On a tangent ...)

I am going to remove all the blanket italics from quotations on Wikipedia even if it kills me. - Mmmmmm. "Live fast, die young, leave an attractive corpse"? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:16, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Ha. It may well be evidence at my inquest.--SabreBD (talk) 13:18, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Drop D tuning undo?

Why did my change get undone? There are a thousand was to play a G major chord and the one listed did not mach the pattern, so I changed it to one that did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.223.35.49 (talk) 22:35, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I can see this was a good faith edit, but it might have helped if you used an edit summary and you might want to consider opening an account, since single edits from Ips are often tests. This was in March and since then I have reverted hundreds of such tests. I suggest you put it back with an explanatory edit summary.--SabreBD (talk) 22:45, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Led Zeppelin FAC

Hi, Sabrebd! I know a few weeks ago you and I discussed taking Led Zeppelin through a Featured Article candidacy together. If you're still up for that, I should be ready whenever you are. The article looks quite good to me, and I don't think it should be too difficult. Let me know when you think you're ready to move forward. No rush if you're busy right now, but just be aware that I'm ready whenever. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 02:23, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Yep lets go for it.--SabreBD (talk) 21:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Okay, great! I'll get right on that. By the way, I was going to start another thread, but you probably should know about this, if you haven't noticed it yet. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 21:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Ah, and thanks for fixing my ill-advised revert. I should have given the revision history a closer look. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 21:48, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

FYI

Talk:Ring a Ring o' Roses/GA1.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:38, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

OK - thanks for taking this on.--SabreBD (talk) 07:27, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Cleeve Abbey GA review

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Thanks for your review which has definitely helped to improve the article.— Rod talk 16:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Could use your guidance

Hi. I recently joined WP:WikiProject History. I'd appreciate your guidance on assessing articles. I think I can manage on the unassessed articles to determine Stub, Start, C, or B. I'd like to participate in assessing for A class, as well. Any guidance you have would help. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:06, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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The printed version I have is: *{{cite book|last=Grohl|first=Dave|year=2011|chapter= Led Zeppelin|title= Rolling Stone: The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time|editor1-last=Brackett |editor1-first=Nathan|publisher=''Rolling Stone''|url=http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/led-zeppelin-20110419|page=27|ref=}}. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 23:43, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Brilliant. Thanks. I will do it tomorrow when I am awake.--SabreBD (talk) 00:15, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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I have of course looked through the first GA review, and while I don't want to point any fingers I agree with the position you adopted. Hopefully this review will go a little more smoothly. I hope you don't mind me making a few small copyediting changes to the article as I read through it, but I find that's easier than presenting you with an endless list of minor things that need fixing. Eric Corbett 18:45, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

I am absolutely fine with the copy edit changes, and I agree it is pointless to spend whole sentences explaining something that can be fixed with a couple of letter changes. As for the previous review, I think people can make their own mind up about it if they want to, but I want to make it clear that I am very happy to take constructive criticism and any suggestions for improvement. Thanks again for taking this on.--SabreBD (talk) 22:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I think we'll be able to do business. I'm not like those other reviewers ... actually I am a bit like Giano come to think of it, although unlike him I know bugger all about architecture, but let's keep that to ourselves. ;-) Eric Corbett 23:06, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Led Zeppelin

Hi, Sabrebd. I may have limited online time in the next week or so, so if you could keep a close eye on the FAC between now and then, that would be great. If I need to communicate with you between now and then, I'll contact you through this account, not logged out or through any alternates. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 21:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

That is fine. As luck would have it I have been very busy for the last two weeks, but things are a bit easier now.--SabreBD (talk) 21:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help with the article and review.

I'm very grateful for your help and gentle introduction to the GA process.

Thank you again. --Rushton2010 (talk) 23:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hello. I recently posted a question at the Led Zeppelin IV talk page that partly refers to you. I thought maybe I should have just asked you directly. Why insist on "untitled" in just the infobox and not anywhere else in Wikipedia? You may simply reply at the talk page if you think that's best. Just curious. Thank you for your time. RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 17:38, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. Please visit talk:Progressive rock#Citations. Since you had some concerns about the reference format, I'd like to involve you and anyone else who may have put some effort into this page. I plan to submit it for GAN, so its best to reach an agreement on the best format for the citations before it gets reviewed. (I expect about a month's delay, and then an extra wait when potential reviewers balk at its length). Thanks. Dementia13 (talk) 14:34, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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There's really no need to thank me, as from experience with your Architecture in early modern Scotland nomination I knew it would be rather easy, so you might say I was being lazy. ;-) Eric Corbett 23:38, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Neo-psychedelia

Hi!!

Sorry for editing your article! (Neo-psychedelia).

I know this band is too new, but I think it have a psychedelic sound.

The debut EP was launched in June, 2013.

http://vandervous.com/

https://soundcloud.com/vandervous

Thanks mate!

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Many thanks. Much appreciated.--SabreBD (talk) 15:40, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Have reviewed - just in case you don't see it as these don't automatically come up on one's watchlist I've found.....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:02, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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Crass again

Hi. I've done a lot of work on the Crass article and User:Miniapolis went through it with a fine copy-editor's comb. The article is in good shape now and I've relisted it for GA, so if you have the time... Cheers,  Yinta 12:23, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

OK, well done on all the work. I will pick it up when I get time if someone doesn't beat me to it.--SabreBD (talk) 22:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I have decided to put the article on hold because there were no references in the lead. If you can fix this, I will accept it. Best wishes! buffbills7701 13:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing this. For some reason the review hasn't transcludined to the article talkpage as it normally does, so I didn't know you had started, but I have found it now and will put my comments there. All the best.--SabreBD (talk) 14:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Why do you believe that there should be references in the lead? Eric Corbett 15:03, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
There are many facts located in the lead, Eric. buffbills7701 17:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
So? Eric Corbett 17:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Excellent work, congrats on the GA! I was wondering if you'd be interested in doing a Agriculture in Scotland in the Middle Ages?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:58, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. That is not a bad idea at all. I will give it some thought.--SabreBD (talk) 13:37, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Wow that's really a terrific new article. Well done!! Yes I think it's important to think laterally of topics back in the past, extremely poorly covered on wikipedia. I'm sure that further studies could be created like Farming in the Highlands and History of fishing in Scotland or even the Wool trade in Scotland in the Middle Ages!. Then of course there is Scottish literature in the Middle Ages etc., staggering what could potentially be written! From what I see you've already created a tremendous body of work on Medieval Scotland. If you are interested I'd be happy in helping you get some of your articles up to Good Article status. In fact we could even make it a Good Article Topic... ♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 10:06, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. All good suggestions again. The main limiting factor is finding willing (and able) reviewers.--SabreBD (talk) 17:03, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, if you were to nominate them I'll review them for you. I try to give a fair review, not excessive but rarely very basic either. I see you have very good taste in music and are an advanced guitarist like myself. Do you like Journey (band), Aerosmith or Whitesnake by any chance? I enjoy playing along to them when I feel like putting my strat in distortion mode. I'm more into jazz and flamenco nowadays and play my new Ibanez AF-96 jazz guitar more now as playing hard rock and blues got too boring for me! I've concluded that Shawn Lane and Allan Holdsworth are the most technical electric players I've ever heard of, but musically I don't rate Holdsworth for obvious reasons, but the way he thinks and his theoretical knowledge of music and stretched legato runs is genius. My favourite guitarists and biggest influences are Paco de Lucia and Joe Pass, but I also love Stevie Ray, Larry Carlton, Neal Schon, Lawson Rollins (check out [4], [5]), Tomatito and many others!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 20:12, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I will run through a few potential GA articles and let you know. I was a fan of a lot of bands including those, back in the day. I was mainly a rock and blues guitarist and a big fan of Stevie Ray, but I have gone back to my acoustic routes and have been working on my fingerstyle, so folk artists like Martin Simpson and Martin Carthy have become a big influence. I am now the acoustic guitarists in and electric/acoustic duo. I love jazz, but oddly it is the one type of guitar that I have never really played or performed that much. Still I have a few years left, so it leaves me something to work on.--SabreBD (talk) 15:26, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Yes fingerstyle and jazz are the most demanding. I love players like Tommy Emmanuel, Lawrence Juber, Doyle Dykes, Phil Keaggy, and a French player who only plays in DADGAD!♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 17:17, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

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Review started.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 14:54, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Great thanks. I look forward to it.--SabreBD (talk) 15:39, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

I nominated an article of yours for DYK. Feel free to propose a different hook. SL93 (talk) 02:06, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated.--SabreBD (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I have promoted this to GA status. Very good work! The review (and suggestions for further improvements) follows. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I happen to enjoy your articles, so don't be surprise to see me review more in the near future. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:44, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Adam Cuerden (talk · contribs) 19:12, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, let me start by saying this is a magnificent article, and most of my criticism is going to be of the "this would enhance it somewhat" type.

First of all, the article would normally be well-illustrated, but for such a sweeping article, it might be worth considering more images, and a gallery at the end, so that more of the examples discussed can be easily seen.

Now, you need not listen to any of this, but in my opinion:

  • "Glasgow school" could use at least one more picture. This can easily be done by left-aligning one. Either another of Mackintosh's, or an example of one of the people he influenced.
  • "Early modernism" could, likewise, use one or two more examples. In particular, a couple early council houses would help, to compare with the brutalist ones.
  • "Post-war brutalism" might benefit from a picture of Cumbernauld.
  • "Post-modern architecture" could really sue a few more images. I'd suggest the Causewayside house of the National Libraries of Scotland, myself, as a nice example mentioned in the article.


Two minor notes: "Render" isn't a particularly well-known term. I put a [clarification needed] on it, so that you could link to Cement render or stucco, as appropriate for that council block. I've seen both. "post-Coia", in the last section, might need a little more clarification (as may "Mackintosh", for that matter): people may have forgotten who they are. I've wikilinked them for now.

I've made a number of small copyedits; I would suggest reviewing them, to make sure no changes in meaning occured.

Whilst one small point remains open, and some improvements are suggested, this is clearly a good article, and well on its way to FA.  Pass. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:22, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for this. I will take a look at the advice tomorrow. Much appreciated.--SabreBD (talk) 23:09, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

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Favor to ask - GA review of Ambohimanga

Hi Sabre, I have a favor to ask. I have an article on a Madagascar World Heritage Site (Ambohimanga) up for GA review, and the review was claimed a month ago by someone who has now posted that he is taking a "wikibreak." There's been no action on the review. Would you possibly have the time and inclination to read it over and provide a review, so it doesn't remain in limbo? Regards, Lemurbaby (talk) 05:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lemurbaby. I see Tibetan Prayer is going to try to do the review today. Get back to me if that doesn't work out and I will see what I can do.--SabreBD (talk) 13:19, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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the bobby shaftoe melody may be wrong

Hi,

I think the musical score for Bobby Shatoe should be in the key of D, that is, both F# and C#, not just F#. If you play it as it is, it will not be right unless you raises the C's to C#'s.

Best wishes,

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Ah. I will check. Thanks.--SabreBD (talk) 22:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

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Re: PUNK Rock Wiki page

Hi - I noticed that you removed my addition to the Punk Rock wiki page (http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Punk_rock) regarding the Punk exhibit at the MET Museum in NYC. I believe that the Exhbition constituted an important addition to the article since it showed that Punk's impact on mainstream fashion didn't end in the 1980s or 1990s, rather, that it continues to this day. Most people don't realize this - and this was the main reason why the Met organized this exhibition.

I'm happy to discuss in more detail.

Thank you

Contributor2007 (talk) 04:25, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

This is really a discussion for the article talkpage, so I am moving your statement there, where I will reply.--SabreBD (talk) 08:58, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Origins of rock and roll

There's an ongoing discussion at Talk:Origins of rock and roll#"Rocket 88" where you might like to express an opinion. The other main participant in the discussion has canvassed opinions here and here, (opinions with which, incidentally, I broadly agree), so I'm sure he won't mind me contacting you as well. Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:00, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Since you can have no idea what my opinion is, I don't think this can count as canvassing. I will take a look and see if I can help.--SabreBD (talk) 12:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

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