User talk:Rye-96/2017/June

RM you might be interested in

Dorud

There's an RM on Talk:Islamization of Iran, that is akin to the Persian traditional music RM, which you might be interested in. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Dorud, HistoryofIran.
Wow.. That's unbelievable.
Thank you for letting me know about it.
—Rye-96 (talk) 20:23, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:Azadi Tower, Tehran.jpeg

Thanks for uploading File:Azadi Tower, Tehran.jpeg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of fair use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of fair use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:

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@Marchjuly: When I uploaded this file, there was no free-use image to replace it. Now that we have one, it's alright to remove this file. But according to the same discussion that considers the newly-uploaded file free-use, this file is actually free-use.
—Rye-96 (talk) 00:50, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Freely licensed equivalent images, etc. are occasionally found after an non-free one has been uploaded and used. Nobody is really to blame for such a thing happening and the non-free image is just simply replaced. Problems only tend to happen when people insist on trying to use a non-free when they really can't per WP:NFCC#1.

As for converting the non-free to public domain, I think there's an important difference between the two files which will need to be resolved. The Commons file is a photograph taken by a Tasnim News Agency photographer, and Tasnim has released all of their own photos into the public domain. The problem with the Commons image was not the copyright of the photo itself, ut the copyright of tower. The Wikipedia file is not a photo; it's an artistic rendition of the tower. Even though the tower cannot be copyrighted, it has to be clearly shown that the artist has agreed to release their work as {{cc-by-sa-3.0}}. The source provided for the image is to a Wikipedia page, which is not helpful at all. What is needed is an explicit declaration of consent from the artist or a link to somewhere online which clearly shows the image licensed at "cc-by-sa-3.0". Without one or the other, the copyright status of the image cannot be verified and it is unlikely the file can be converted to public domain or a free license. You can ask about this at WP:MCQ if you want or use {{di-replaceable fair use disputed}} if you like to dispute the speedy deletion if you feel the file should be kept. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Oh, that's right. This file was first uploaded by someone and then it was requested for deletion. Meanwhile, I uploaded this fair-use version out of it; but I should've asked him to leave a comment too.
What if I request for non-deletion of the already deleted original file? Is there any chance of restoring it, without the original uploader's involvement?
—Rye-96 (talk) 07:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

That already deleted file was something deleted from Commons. What you can do is discuss this with c:User:Ellin Beltz, the admin who deleted it, and see what she says. Once again, it depends upon the specifics of the particular file. If it was a photograph, then it's possible depending upon whether the photograph is considered copyrightable. Photographs of publically displayed 3D works of art are generally considered to be protected by copyright even when the underlying work itself isn't because there is believed to be some creativity involved in taking such photos as explained in c:COM:PDART#This does not apply to photographs of 3D works of art. Photos of 3D objects are often considered to derivative works and not just a simple mechanical reproduction. If it's anything other than a photo, then you're probably going to need to show that the creator/copyright holder has agreed to release it under a free license or that is public domain for one reason or another. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: I see.. Then I will leave her a message and try it, cause I think that's a quality image.
Thank you for taking the time to share this.
—Rye-96 (talk) 09:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Azadi Tower, Tehran.jpeg

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Thanks for uploading File:Azadi Tower, Tehran.jpeg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

It's alright.
—Rye-96 (talk) 14:48, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

hello Ryan!

Hey fellow! I made this! look at that and say your comment about the article! I think it's not bad! We can expand it more. So long! The Stray Dog Talk Page 18:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

@TheStrayDog:
Oh. I knew you were gonna do this someday. :D
The references aren't appropriate, but let's see if the article can stay and be given some good sources.
Some parts of the article are contradictory, by the way. And listening "Indo-Iranian" as its supposed origin, besides the comparison to the similar-sounding Indian word, would be quite wrong and unnecessary.
I'll try to do a modification on it soon.
—Rye-96 (talk) 10:12, 25 June 2017 (UTC)