User talk:Rusty Cat/Archive 9
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Question from Quirek the Bird (21:10, 29 August 2024)
Hello! How can I generate my own wiki page? --Quirek the Bird (talk) 21:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Quirek the Bird: Hello! Welcome to Wikipedia. Sorry, but I'm afraid that that's not possible. Wikipedia is not meant for ordinary people. In all of the articles we have about people, those people have at least won a really famous award or at least been in a well-known newspaper.
- But if you intend to improve existing Wikipedia article, you may to provide basic information about yourself so your fellow editors get to know you!
- Rusty 🐈 23:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oh... I must have miscommunicated. I don't plan on making a page for *myself* (that is, while I am still insignificant) but rather, can I make a new wiki page on a different topic, like a charity? 2600:1007:A011:970:1653:8F9A:5201:8B9E (talk) 00:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Quirek the Bird: Certainly. A draft article can be started through a process known as Articles for Creation. Generally, a subject is eligible for its own article when independent sources write about it in-depth (for example, a news article discussing the charity's efforts).
- See our General notability guideline and Organizations notability guideline for more in-depth information. Rusty 🐈 03:22, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
Tech News: 2024-36
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Editors and volunteer developers interested in data visualisation can now test the new software for charts. Its early version is available on beta Commons and beta Wikipedia. This is an important milestone before making charts available on regular wikis. You can read more about this project update and help to test the charts.
Feature news
- Editors who use the Special:UnusedTemplates page can now filter out pages which are expected to be there permanently, such as sandboxes, test-cases, and templates that are always substituted. Editors can add the new magic word
__EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__
to a template page to hide it from the listing. Thanks to Sophivorus and DannyS712 for these improvements. [1] - Editors who use the New Topic tool on discussion pages, will now be reminded to add a section header, which should help reduce the quantity of newcomers who add sections without a header. You can read more about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Last week, some Toolforge tools had occasional connection problems. The cause is still being investigated, but the problems have been resolved for now. [2]
- Translation administrators at multilingual wikis, when editing multiple translation units, can now easily mark which changes require updates to the translation. This is possible with the new dropdown menu.
Project updates
- A new draft text of a policy discussing the use of Wikimedia's APIs has been published on Meta-Wiki. The draft text does not reflect a change in policy around the APIs; instead, it is an attempt to codify existing API rules. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome on the proposed update’s talk page until September 13 or until those discussions have concluded.
Learn more
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Charts, the successor of Graphs - A secure and extensible tool for data visualization (25 mins) – about the above-mentioned Charts project.
- State of Language Technology and Onboarding at Wikimedia (90 mins) – about some of the language tools that support Wikimedia sites, such as Content/Section Translation, MinT, and LanguageConverter; also the current state and future of languages onboarding. [3]
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The Signpost: 4 September 2024
- News and notes: WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked
- In the media: AI is not playing games anymore. Is Wikipedia ready?
- News from the WMF: Meet the 12 candidates running in the WMF Board of Trustees election
- Wikimania: A month after Wikimania 2024
- Serendipity: What it's like to be Wikimedian of the Year
- Traffic report: After the gold rush
I'm sorry--I don't understand what you were doing there. Drmies (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Drmies: Yesterday, after seeing this talk page, I stumbled upon the AN thread Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive238#Unblock_requests_being_handled_by_non-administrators. From my understanding of some of that thread's opinions, along with WP:NAC, non-administrators may close discussions, extending to unblock requests, where they are uninvolved, if they have the permissions to perform the action. No action was necessary since it was a decline, and wasn't even a real unblock request.
- However, if policy or general consensus differs from what I am saying, please let me know, preferably with a link to relevant thread(s) so I can learn from this experience. Thank you! Rusty 🐈 21:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm interesting--but it seems to me you've turned around the idea that "[things] require that any sincere unblock request be reviewed by someone who has the technical ability to grant the request" (28bytes, correct me if I'm wrong)--you would need to technical ability to grant the request. That there is no technical ability necessary to deny the request does not mean that someone without that ability is free to deny it, no matter how crappy the request is, and how obvious that any one in their right mind would deny it. User:Bbb23, you have thoughts on this? It's the first time I ever heard of it. Drmies (talk) 22:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Non-admins cannot decline unblock requests.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Drmies: What about the
"...and of course revert obvious abuse or vandalism that happens to include (or be included in) an unblock template"
part? That isn't the same thing as declining, but it's similar. - Also, the user who started the discussion stated that they had "seen an increasing number [of non-admins] handling [unblock requests]."
- I'd also like to add that I have no intention to continue handling unblock requests routinely: My work on-wiki mainly involves helping when I see something that might need my help. Rusty 🐈 22:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah, I suppose I see your point there. Thing is, we have gotten so careful with so many things (like, there's a hesitancy I sense in the way editors are handling drafts, rather than nominating or obliterating obvious crap and promotion) that I'm not sure it's obvious to everyone what "obvious abuse or vandalism" means anymore, esp. in an unblock request. I think what caught me off-guard is, well, first of all, I've never seen a non-admin handle one, and second, you declined it, rather than for instance just rolling it back. Does that make sense? Ha or you can just run for admin! Drmies (talk) 23:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm interesting--but it seems to me you've turned around the idea that "[things] require that any sincere unblock request be reviewed by someone who has the technical ability to grant the request" (28bytes, correct me if I'm wrong)--you would need to technical ability to grant the request. That there is no technical ability necessary to deny the request does not mean that someone without that ability is free to deny it, no matter how crappy the request is, and how obvious that any one in their right mind would deny it. User:Bbb23, you have thoughts on this? It's the first time I ever heard of it. Drmies (talk) 22:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Nojboj (22:22, 4 September 2024)
Hello Rusty, do you mind giving me any information for German Infoboxes, specifically for people. I am looking for a fit that would match George Finey. Thank you in advance. --Nojboj (talk) 22:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Nojboj: If you're looking for infoboxes on the German-language Wikipedia, I unfortunately am unable to help you. Each Wikipedia language edition is completely independent of each other, and thus one thing on one language edition may not be the same on another. Moreover, I don't speak German. However, the German Wikipedia may have a similar program to the mentor program on the English Wikipedia. You may find a better response there. Rusty 🐈 22:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. I have another assistance you may be able to help me with. The Death Records of Nellie Phoebe Murray. I can't currently sign in to see those records. If you could assist me with her Death date, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Rusty, and I'll look into German Wikipedia. Nojboj (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Nojboj: Once you have 500 edits and your account is 6 months old, you will be able to access Ancestry.com through a partnership with Wikipedia called The Wikipedia Library. Rusty 🐈 03:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alright. Nojboj (talk) 10:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Nojboj: Once you have 500 edits and your account is 6 months old, you will be able to access Ancestry.com through a partnership with Wikipedia called The Wikipedia Library. Rusty 🐈 03:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your help. I have another assistance you may be able to help me with. The Death Records of Nellie Phoebe Murray. I can't currently sign in to see those records. If you could assist me with her Death date, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Rusty, and I'll look into German Wikipedia. Nojboj (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from EyoAkiba (10:07, 8 September 2024)
Hello --EyoAkiba (talk) 10:07, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @EyoAkiba: Hi! Do you have a question about Wikipedia? Rusty 🐈 14:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-37
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Starting this week, the standard syntax highlighter will receive new colors that make them compatible in dark mode. This is the first of many changes to come as part of a major upgrade to syntax highlighting. You can learn more about what's to come on the help page. [4][5]
- Editors of wikis using Wikidata will now be notified of only relevant Wikidata changes in their watchlist. This is because the Lua functions
entity:getSitelink()
andmw.wikibase.getSitelink(qid)
will have their logic unified for tracking different aspects of sitelinks to reduce junk notifications from inconsistent sitelinks tracking. [6]
Project updates
- Users of all Wikis will have access to Wikimedia sites as read-only for a few minutes on September 25, starting at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [7]
- Contributors of 11 Wikipedias, including English will have a new
MOS
namespace added to their Wikipedias. This improvement ensures that links beginning withMOS:
(usually shortcuts to the Manual of Style) are not broken by Mooré Wikipedia (language codemos
). [8]
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Tech News: 2024-38
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Improvements and Maintenance
- Editors interested in templates can help by reading the latest Wishlist focus area, Template recall and discovery, and share your feedback on the talkpage. This input helps the Community Tech team to decide the right technical approach to build. Everyone is also encouraged to continue adding new wishes.
- The new automated Special:NamespaceInfo page helps editors understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [9]
- References Check is a feature that encourages editors to add a citation when they add a new paragraph to a Wikipedia article. For a short time, the corresponding tag "Edit Check (references) activated" was erroneously being applied to some edits outside of the main namespace. This has been fixed. [10]
- It is now possible for a wiki community to change the order in which a page’s categories are displayed on their wiki. By default, categories are displayed in the order they appear in the wikitext. Now, wikis with a consensus to do so can request a configuration change to display them in alphabetical order. [11]
- Tool authors can now access ToolsDB's public databases from both Quarry and Superset. Those databases have always been accessible to every Toolforge user, but they are now more broadly accessible, as Quarry can be accessed by anyone with a Wikimedia account. In addition, Quarry's internal database can now be queried from Quarry itself. This database contains information about all queries that are being run and starred by users in Quarry. This information was already public through the web interface, but you can now query it using SQL. You can read more about that, and 20 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Any pages or tools that still use the very old CSS classes
mw-message-box
need to be updated. These old classes will be removed next week or soon afterwards. Editors can use a global-search to determine what needs to be changed. It is possible to use the newercdx-message
group of classes as a replacement (see the relevant Codex documentation, and an example update), but using locally defined onwiki classes would be best. [12]
Technical project updates
- Next week, all Wikimedia wikis will be read-only for a few minutes. This will start on September 25 at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. This maintenance process also targets other services. The previous switchover took 3 minutes, and the Site Reliability Engineering teams use many tools to make sure that this essential maintenance work happens as quickly as possible. [13]
Tech in depth
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes details about: research about hook handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Hackathon Showcase (45 mins) - 19 short presentations by some of the Hackathon participants, describing some of the projects they worked on, such as automated testing of maintenance scripts, a video-cutting command line tool, and interface improvements for various tools. There are more details and links available in the Phabricator task.
- Co-Creating a Sustainable Future for the Toolforge Ecosystem (40 mins) - a roundtable discussion for tool-maintainers, users, and supporters of Toolforge about how to make the platform sustainable and how to evaluate the tools available there.
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Question from Vasco Kgomotso Moropa (17:24, 14 September 2024)
How can one pass in the SCIENCE STREAM --Vasco Kgomotso Moropa (talk) 17:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Vasco Kgomotso Moropa: I'm not sure what you're talking about. Can you clarify? Rusty 🐈 17:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- how can one manage activities and be able to cope in the SCIENCE STREAM Vasco Kgomotso Moropa (talk) 06:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Vasco Kgomotso Moropa: I don't know what Science Stream is. As this system is mostly for questions related to Wikipedia, you may get a better response posting elsewhere. Rusty 🐈 13:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- how can one manage activities and be able to cope in the SCIENCE STREAM Vasco Kgomotso Moropa (talk) 06:41, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Test edits in draft space
Hi there, I see you've been tagging some drafts with WP:G2 - there's no need to do this, since a draft that has been untouched for six months will be deleted according to WP:G13 at the end of six months. -- asilvering (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @asilvering: Alright, thanks for letting me know! I already knew that but I had been seeing that some admins would actually delete the drafts I tagged for G2, so I thought it was probably okay. Rusty 🐈 16:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Think of it like this: when you tag something for speedy deletion, you're telling admins to grab their mop and bucket and come clean this one particular spot on the floor. If I've already been called out to this one specific spot, I might think "well, alright, it's true that there is some dirt on this one specific spot, I may as well," and mop it up. But there's also going to be another janitor who comes by at the end of the day with one of those giant rectangular mops, and they're going to check real quick for anything that shouldn't be on the floor, and then they're going to mop the whole thing whether that first janitor got that one spot earlier or not. -- asilvering (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: Ah, makes sense. I never thought about G13 that way! Rusty 🐈 13:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Think of it like this: when you tag something for speedy deletion, you're telling admins to grab their mop and bucket and come clean this one particular spot on the floor. If I've already been called out to this one specific spot, I might think "well, alright, it's true that there is some dirt on this one specific spot, I may as well," and mop it up. But there's also going to be another janitor who comes by at the end of the day with one of those giant rectangular mops, and they're going to check real quick for anything that shouldn't be on the floor, and then they're going to mop the whole thing whether that first janitor got that one spot earlier or not. -- asilvering (talk) 17:59, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Question from Ficinisti (14:45, 20 September 2024)
I wish to add an update under 'Meaning' (a painting) The picture is on Wikicommons. I need to use a detail of it. Am I allowed to do this? --Ficinisti (talk) 14:46, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ficinisti: You can use any image from Wikimedia Commons in a Wikipedia article, and upload images to Wikimedia Commons too. Rusty 🐈 14:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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Clarification and Follow-up on Redirect for Alexandre Moratto
Hi Rusty Cat,
I initially modified the redirect page for the notable Brazilian-American director Alexandre Moratto, but due to inexperience, I believe I made an error in the process. Thank you for correcting it and returning it to the original redirect.
The reason for this attempt was feedback from editor MarcGarver, who questioned whether the redirect to Sócrates was the best representation for this page. In response, I translated the Wikipedia page for Alexandre Moratto from the Portuguese portal: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_Moratto.
The translated version is available here as a draft: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Alexandre_Moratto.
The draft is a direct translation of the established Portuguese page, providing a more comprehensive factual overview of Moratto’s career and addressing the limitations of the current redirect as a stub. If replacing the current redirect with this draft is deemed appropriate, it would need to be published by an editor, administrator, or moderator. Since the content already exists in another language version of Wikipedia, it may be worth considering for inclusion in the English-language portal. The current redirect to Sócrates offers limited information on the director's broader career.
Thank you again for correcting the redirect, and please let me know if any further action is needed.
Best,
Squigglyturtle Squigglyturtle (talk) 22:38, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Squigglyturtle: For now, the draft is not a "live article", so I believe the redirect should remain. However, when the article is ready to be moved to the "live article" space, the current redirect page can be deleted to allow the draft to be moved to that title. Rusty 🐈 23:53, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Dear Rusty Cat,
- Thank you for the clarification. Please accept my apologies for the changes made to the redirect page. As I am new to this process, I encountered warnings indicating that I was not following the correct procedures. I attempted to revert the changes but was unable to do so. I appreciate your intervention in restoring the page to ensure proper protocol was maintained.
- Per your explanation, my understanding is that no further action is needed and the community or moderators will determine if the draft of the translation should be approved and replace the redirect, correct? Thanks for you attention to my questions.
- Sincerely,
- Squigglyturtle Squigglyturtle (talk) 00:05, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Squigglyturtle: Not automatically. You'd need to either submit it for review, or if you think the article is ready in its current state to replace the redirect, you'll need to make a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests since normal users cannot delete articles. Rusty 🐈 00:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for this information. Perhaps submitting it for review may be the best approach. Would you mind providing some feedback on how to submit it for review at your convenience? With thanks. Squigglyturtle (talk) 00:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Squigglyturtle: Sure! Just put the following code at the top of the page:
{{subst:submit}}
Rusty 🐈 01:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)- Thank you for your consideration. After further reflection, I opted to submit the suggestion via Wikipedia
- move/Technical requests. If you believe it would be helpful to also add {{subst:}} to the draft page, I would be glad to do so. I appreciate your guidance and time. Squigglyturtle (talk) 01:16, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I received a notification that the article has been approved and is now live: Alexandre Moratto. Thank you for your guidance throughout this process. I look forward to continuing my contributions to Wikipedia. Squigglyturtle (talk) 03:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Squigglyturtle: Glad I was able to help! Happy editing! Rusty 🐈 03:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I received a notification that the article has been approved and is now live: Alexandre Moratto. Thank you for your guidance throughout this process. I look forward to continuing my contributions to Wikipedia. Squigglyturtle (talk) 03:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Squigglyturtle: Sure! Just put the following code at the top of the page:
- Thank you for this information. Perhaps submitting it for review may be the best approach. Would you mind providing some feedback on how to submit it for review at your convenience? With thanks. Squigglyturtle (talk) 00:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Squigglyturtle: Not automatically. You'd need to either submit it for review, or if you think the article is ready in its current state to replace the redirect, you'll need to make a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests since normal users cannot delete articles. Rusty 🐈 00:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
New page reviewer granted
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Tech News: 2024-39
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Weekly highlight
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday September 25 at 15:00 UTC. Reading the wikis will not be interrupted, but editing will be paused. These twice-yearly processes allow WMF's site reliability engineering teams to remain prepared to keep the wikis functioning even in the event of a major interruption to one of our data centers.
Updates for editors
- Editors who use the iOS Wikipedia app in Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Chinese, may see the Alt Text suggested-edit experiment after editing an article, or completing a suggested edit using "Add an image". Alt-text helps people with visual impairments to read Wikipedia articles. The team aims to learn if adding alt-text to images is a task that editors can be successful with. Please share any feedback on the discussion page.
- The Codex color palette has been updated with new and revised colors for the MediaWiki user interfaces. The most noticeable changes for editors include updates for: dark mode colors for Links and for quiet Buttons (progressive and destructive), visited Link colors for both light and dark modes, and background colors for system-messages in both light and dark modes.
- It is now possible to include clickable wikilinks and external links inside code blocks. This includes links that are used within
<syntaxhighlight>
tags and on code pages (JavaScript, CSS, Scribunto and Sanitized CSS). Uses of template syntax{{…}}
are also linked to the template page. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [14] - Two bugs were fixed in the GlobalVanishRequest system by improving the logging and by removing an incorrect placeholder message. [15][16]
- View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- From Wikimedia Enterprise:
- The API now enables 5,000 on-demand API requests per month and twice-monthly HTML snapshots freely (gratis and libre). More information on the updates and also improvements to the software development kits (SDK) are explained on the project's blog post. While Wikimedia Enterprise APIs are designed for high-volume commercial reusers, this change enables many more community use-cases to be built on the service too.
- The Snapshot API (html dumps) have added beta Structured Contents endpoints (blog post on that) as well as released two beta datasets (English and French Wikipedia) from that endpoint to Hugging Face for public use and feedback (blog post on that). These pre-parsed data sets enable new options for researchers, developers, and data scientists to use and study the content.
In depth
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The Signpost: 26 September 2024
- In the media: Courts order Wikipedia to give up names of editors, legal strain anticipated from "online safety laws"
- Community view: Indian courts order Wikipedia to take down name of crime victim, editors strive towards consensus
- Serendipity: A Wikipedian at the 2024 Paralympics
- Opinion: asilvering's RfA debriefing
- News and notes: Are you ready for admin elections?
- Recent research: Article-writing AI is less "prone to reasoning errors (or hallucinations)" than human Wikipedia editors
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--Lajmmoore (talk 08:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Your revision of my edit
Excuse me, I provided sources for an unsourced section and updated it accordingly. I removed routes which were not confirmed by the airlines schedules and added a citation for the sole proven one. I also explained this in the summary. 2001:A61:123F:2E01:346C:C21D:1B78:7521 (talk) 15:37, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry. I couldn't see the summary for a second. Rusty 🐈 15:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-40
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- Readers of 42 more wikis can now use Dark Mode. If the option is not yet available for logged-out users of your wiki, this is likely because many templates do not yet display well in Dark Mode. Please use the night-mode-checker tool if you are interested in helping to reduce the number of issues. The recommendations page provides guidance on this. Dark Mode is enabled on additional wikis once per month.
- Editors using the 2010 wikitext editor as their default can access features from the 2017 wikitext editor by adding
?veaction=editsource
to the URL. If you would like to enable the 2017 wikitext editor as your default, it can be set in your preferences. [17] - For logged-out readers using the Vector 2022 skin, the "donate" link has been moved from a collapsible menu next to the content area into a more prominent top menu, next to "Create an account". This restores the link to the level of prominence it had in the Vector 2010 skin. Learn more about the changes related to donor experiences. [18]
- The CampaignEvents extension provides tools for organizers to more easily manage events, communicate with participants, and promote their events on the wikis. The extension has been enabled on Arabic Wikipedia, Igbo Wikipedia, Swahili Wikipedia, and Meta-Wiki. Chinese Wikipedia has decided to enable the extension, and discussions on the extension are in progress on Spanish Wikipedia and on Wikidata. To learn how to enable the extension on your wiki, you can visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-Wiki.
- View all 22 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- Developers with an account on Wikitech-wiki should check if any action is required for their accounts. The wiki is being changed to use the single-user-login (SUL) system, and other configuration changes. This change will help reduce the overall complexity for the weekly software updates across all our wikis.
In depth
- The server switch was completed successfully last week with a read-only time of only 2 minutes 46 seconds. This periodic process makes sure that engineers can switch data centers and keep all of the wikis available for readers, even if there are major technical issues. It also gives engineers a chance to do maintenance and upgrades on systems that normally run 24 hours a day, and often helps to reveal weaknesses in the infrastructure. The process involves dozens of software services and hundreds of hardware servers, and requires multiple teams working together. Work over the past few years has reduced the time from 17 minutes down to 2–3 minutes. [19]
Meetings and events
- October 4–6: WikiIndaba Conference's Hackathon in Johannesburg, South Africa
- November 4–6: MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024 in Vienna, Austria
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Question from E61Institute on User:E61Institute (23:41, 30 September 2024)
Hello! I just published a page and I just wonder when I'll be able to see it online? Thanks --E61Institute (talk) 23:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @E61Institute: If by "see it online" you mean find it through Google or another search engine, it seems that that you published the article in User space. Use Articles for Creation to create encyclopedia articles. Rusty 🐈 04:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Njgjjjy (17:14, 30 September 2024)
How to publish articles --Njgjjjy (talk) 17:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Njgjjjy: See Help:Your first article for more info. Rusty 🐈 04:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Kumud709140 on Draft:Kumud Bihari (17:02, 1 October 2024)
How do create --Kumud709140 (talk) 17:02, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kumud709140: If you want to create an article about yourself, see Wikipedia:Autobiography. Rusty 🐈 23:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2024).
- Administrator elections are a proposed new process for selecting administrators, offering an alternative to requests for adminship (RfA). The first trial election will take place in October 2024, with candidate sign-up from October 8 to 14, a discussion phase from October 22 to 24, and SecurePoll voting from October 25 to 31. For questions or to help out, please visit the talk page at Wikipedia talk:Administrator elections.
- Following a discussion, the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion G8 to F2. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an administrator recall process.
- The arbitration case Historical elections has been closed.
- An arbitration case regarding Backlash to diversity and inclusion has been opened.
- Editors are invited to nominate themselves to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until 23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC).
- If you are interested in stopping spammers, please put MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist and MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist on your watchlist, and help out when you can.
Question from Harakeke007 (08:23, 7 October 2024)
Hello. A wikipedia profile page was set up in my name without prior notification. This came as a surprise and I now need to complete the profile. Currently my academic publications have been directly imported from the (very incomplete) scholia list and I don't know how to format those that should be added so would appreciate guidance. Is it usual for people to set up wikipedia profiles without notifying the subjects? --Harakeke007 (talk) 08:23, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Harakeke007: First of all, I would recommend you to not make edits directly to the page yet - our standards can differ from what you might expect, and it is strongly discouraged for subjects to edit the article directly, for one.
- You can suggest edits by going to the talk page of the article, accessible through the "Talk" tab at the top, and get comments from other editors. Rusty 🐈 23:36, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-41
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Communities can now request installation of Automoderator on their wiki. Automoderator is an automated anti-vandalism tool that reverts bad edits based on scores from the new "Revert Risk" machine learning model. You can read details about the necessary steps for installation and configuration. [20]
Updates for editors
- Translators in wikis where the mobile experience of Content Translation is available, can now customize their articles suggestion list from 41 filtering options when using the tool. This topic-based article suggestion feature makes it easy for translators to self-discover relevant articles based on their area of interest and translate them. You can try it with your mobile device. [21]
- View all 12 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- It is now possible for
<syntaxhighlight>
code blocks to offer readers a "Copy" button if thecopy=1
attribute is set on the tag. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [22] - Customized copyright footer messages on all wikis will be updated. The new versions will use wikitext markup instead of requiring editing raw HTML. [23]
- Later this month, temporary accounts will be rolled out on several pilot wikis. The final list of the wikis will be published in the second half of the month. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 11 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. Guidance on how to update the code is available.
- Rate limiting has been enabled for the code review tools Gerrit and GitLab to address ongoing issues caused by malicious traffic and scraping. Clients that open too many concurrent connections will be restricted for a few minutes. This rate limiting is managed through nftables firewall rules. For more details, see Wikitech's pages on Firewall, GitLab limits and Gerrit operations.
- Five new wikis have been created:
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:39, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Harakeke007 (20:00, 7 October 2024)
Hello, as per yesterday's question, I'm puzzled that someone is able to set up a wikipedia profile for a subject without their being notified. My attempts to correct/ edit/ expand upon the profile established for me without forewarning have been removed as they're considered to be a conflict of interest. I have no way of contacting the original author, whose intentions are worthy but whose process seems questionable from the subject's viewpoint. Please advise urgently. --Harakeke007 (talk) 20:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Harakeke007: Wikipedia is like an encyclopedia. We summarize what reliable sources say, so if you want to make a change, suggest on the "Talk" tab with some sources please. Rusty 🐈 23:44, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks and...
@Rusty Cat: I know you're away at school right now. Not sure where you are or what level you're at, but I noticed you edited my userpage. I've been editing since 2007. Been active since 2016. I have my students edit Wikipedia at the University at Albany in New York State. I wanted to let you know that it's NOT usually ok to edit other people's userpage. It's like editing another person's Facebook posts. Instead you make suggestions on their talk page only. But I appreciated you fixing the links about my ancestors and their escape on the Underground Railroad. sheridanford (talk) 21:12, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- @SheridanFord: I see. You're welcome! Rusty 🐈 14:45, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Wayne dobson actor (00:31, 13 October 2024)
Can I make a wiki page for myself I'm a up and coming actor from the uk --Wayne dobson actor (talk) 00:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Wayne dobson actor: Unfortunately, that is not possible. However, a page about you may be created by others if you meet the standards for inclusion. Rusty 🐈 01:24, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-42
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Updates for editors
- The Structured Discussion extension (also known as Flow) is starting to be removed. This extension is unmaintained and causes issues. It will be replaced by DiscussionTools, which is used on any regular talk page. A first set of wikis are being contacted. These wikis are invited to stop using Flow, and to move all Flow boards to sub-pages, as archives. At these wikis, a script will move all Flow pages that aren't a sub-page to a sub-page automatically, starting on 22 October 2024. On 28 October 2024, all Flow boards at these wikis will be set in read-only mode. [29][30]
- WMF's Search Platform team is working on making it easier for readers to perform text searches in their language. A change last week on over 30 languages makes it easier to find words with accents and other diacritics. This applies to both full-text search and to types of advanced search such as the hastemplate and incategory keywords. More technical details (including a few other minor search upgrades) are available. [31]
- View all 20 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, EditCheck was installed at Russian Wikipedia, and fixes were made for some missing user interface styles.
Updates for technical contributors
- Editors who use the Toolforge tool Earwig's Copyright Violation Detector will now be required to log in with their Wikimedia account before running checks using the "search engine" option. This change is needed to help prevent external bots from misusing the system. Thanks to Chlod for these improvements. [32]
- Phabricator users can create tickets and add comments on existing tickets via Email again. Sending email to Phabricator has been fixed. [33]
- Some HTML elements in the interface are now wrapped with a
<bdi>
element, to make our HTML output more aligned with Web standards. More changes like this will be coming in future weeks. This change might break some tools that rely on the previous HTML structure of the interface. Note that relying on the HTML structure of the interface is not recommended and might break at any time. [34]
In depth
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes: updates on Wikimedia's authentication system, research to simplify feature development in the MediaWiki platform, updates on Parser Unification and MathML rollout, and more.
- The latest quarterly Technical Community Newsletter is now available. This edition include: research about improving topic suggestions related to countries, improvements to PHPUnit tests, and more.
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MediaWiki message delivery 21:18, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Kpetere (10:58, 17 October 2024)
hello how an i start editing my biography --Kpetere (talk) 10:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kpetere: Writing about yourself is generally discouraged. But you can start editing through suggested edits in the homepage. Rusty 🐈 13:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Question from Maelleduranleau on User:UnkownArchitect/Terence Conran/Maelleduranleau Peer Review (21:26, 17 October 2024)
Hi, everytime I try to publish my peer review it tells me; No stashed content found for 0/aa2f1679-8735-11ef-b6b8-05180039c600
Can you hepl me ? --Maelleduranleau (talk) 21:26, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Maelleduranleau: Sorry, I can't help you, but posting at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) may get you a response. Rusty 🐈 00:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 19 October 2024
- News and notes: One election's end, another election's beginning
- Recent research: "As many as 5%" of new English Wikipedia articles "contain significant AI-generated content", says paper
- In the media: Off to the races! Wikipedia wins!
- Contest: A WikiCup for the Global South
- Traffic report: A scream breaks the still of the night
- Book review: The Editors
- Humour: The Newspaper Editors
- Crossword: Spilled Coffee Mug
Tech News: 2024-43
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- The Mobile Apps team has released an update to the iOS app's navigation, and it is now available in the latest App store version. The team added a new Profile menu that allows for easy access to editor features like Notifications and Watchlist from the Article view, and brings the "Donate" button into a more accessible place for users who are reading an article. This is the first phase of a larger planned navigation refresh to help the iOS app transition from a primarily reader-focused app, to an app that fully supports reading and editing. The Wikimedia Foundation has added more editing features and support for on-wiki communication based on volunteer requests in recent years.
Updates for editors
- Wikipedia readers can now download a browser extension to experiment with some early ideas on potential features that recommend articles for further reading, automatically summarize articles, and improve search functionality. For more details and to stay updated, check out the Web team's Content Discovery Experiments page and subscribe to their newsletter.
- Later this month, logged-out editors of these 12 wikis will start to have temporary accounts created. The list may slightly change - some wikis may be removed but none will be added. Temporary account is a new type of user account. It enhances the logged-out editors' privacy and makes it easier for community members to communicate with them. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 12 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. Guidance on how to update the code is available. Read more about the deployment plan across all wikis.
- View all 33 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the South Ndebele, Pannonian Rusyn, Obolo, Iban and Tai Nüa Wikipedia languages were created last week. [35][36][37][38][39]
- It is now possible to create functions on Wikifunctions using Wikidata lexemes, through the new Wikidata lexeme type launched last week. When you go to one of these functions, the user interface provides a lexeme selector that helps you pick a lexeme from Wikidata that matches the word you type. After hitting run, your selected lexeme is retrieved from Wikidata, transformed into a Wikidata lexeme type, and passed into the selected function. Read more about this in the latest Wikifunctions newsletter.
Updates for technical contributors
- Users of the Wikimedia sites can now format dates more easily in different languages with the new
{{#timef:…}}
parser function. For example,{{#timef:now|date|en}}
will show as "27 November 2024". Previously,{{#time:…}}
could be used to format dates, but this required knowledge of the order of the time and date components and their intervening punctuation.#timef
(or#timefl
for local time) provides access to the standard date formats that MediaWiki uses in its user interface. This may help to simplify some templates on multi-lingual wikis like Commons and Meta. [40][41] - Commons and Meta users can now efficiently retrieve the user's language using
{{USERLANGUAGE}}
instead of using{{int:lang}}
. [42] - The Product and Tech Advisory Council (PTAC) now has its pilot members with representation across Africa, Asia, Europe, North America and South America. They will work to address the Movement Strategy's Technology Council initiative of having a co-defined and more resilient technological platform. [43]
In depth
- The latest quarterly Growth newsletter is available. It includes: an upcoming Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module, new Community Configuration options, and details on new projects.
- The Wikimedia Foundation is now an official partner of the CVE program, which is an international effort to catalog publicly disclosed cybersecurity vulnerabilities. This partnership will allow the Security Team to instantly publish common vulnerabilities and exposures (CVE) records that are affecting MediaWiki core, extensions, and skins, along with any other code the Foundation is a steward of.
- The Community Wishlist is now testing machine translations for Wishlist content. Volunteers can now read machine-translated versions of wishes and dive into discussions even before translators arrive to translate content.
Meetings and events
- 24 October - Wiki Education Speaker Series Webinar - Open Source Tech: Building the Wiki Education Dashboard, featuring Wikimedia interns and a Web developer in the panel.
- 20–22 December 2024 - Indic Wikimedia Hackathon Bhubaneswar 2024 in Odisha, India. A hackathon for community members, including developers, designers and content editors, to build technical solutions that improve contributors' experiences.
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Growth News, October 2024
Current work
Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module
We will add a new module to the Newcomer Homepage that will allow communities to highlight specific events, projects, campaigns, and initiatives. We have released a simple version on beta wikis and we will soon start an A/B test on our pilot wikis. This module will only display on the Newcomer Homepage if communities decide to utilize it, so learn how to configure the Community Updates module, or share your thoughts on the project's talk page.
Constructive activation experimentation
After showcasing early design ideas at Wikimania, we conducted user testing of design prototypes. We now aim to engage communities in further discussions and plan to run a targeted experiment, presenting a structured task within the reading view to logged-in new account holders with zero edits.
This Community Configuration extension was developed to help communities customize wiki features to meet their unique needs. The Growth team is now helping other Wikimedia Foundation teams make their products configurable:
- The Moderation Tools team now provides Community Configuration for Automoderator. (T365046)
- Certain Babel extension settings will be configurable soon. (T328171)
Future work
As part of the Growth team annual plan, we will continue to investigate ways to increase constructive activation on mobile, while also working with Data Products to move forward A/B testing functionality via the Metrics Platform.
Community events
- Growth team members presented Community Configuration: Shaping On-Wiki Functionality Together at Wikimania (slides). The session recording is available to watch on YouTube. This session provided an update on the Community Configuration project and introduced details about the upcoming features that communities will soon be able to configure. Representatives from the Moderator Tools, Editing, Web, and Campaigns teams shared their plans for utilizing Community Configuration in the future. Following these presentations, the WMF Growth team's Benoît Evellin and Martin Urbanec answered audience questions.
- Habib Mhenni gave a presentation of how mentorship works at WikiIndaba 2024. The recording is available.
Stay informed
Growth team weekly updates are available on wiki (in English) if you want to know more about our day-to-day work. If you want to receive more general updates about technical activity happening across the Wikimedia movement (including Growth work), we encourage you to subscribe to Tech News.
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