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16:47, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

22:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

21:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Re: Meta

"The problem is that this is an area that nobody is tasked with and nobody really has a mandate to do anything."[21] Well put. Also, I've been told that, once again, WMF will refuse to do anything. This is apparently a matter of principle, and has nothing to do with merit. Not just that: it seems that WMF will refuse to acknowledge there is a problem, again as a matter of principle.

I've been asked to write an article on the topic for the Signpost. Maybe that's the chance for a non-TLDR global discussion you mentioned.. GregorB (talk) 14:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

15:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

I moved the discussion over there. Famartin (talk) 19:08, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 October 2018

17:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – October 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2018).

Administrator changes

added JustlettersandnumbersL235
removed BgwhiteHorsePunchKidJ GrebKillerChihuahuaRami RWinhunter

Interface administrator changes

added Cyberpower678Deryck ChanOshwahPharosRagesossRitchie333

Oversight changes

removed Guerillero NativeForeigner SnowolfXeno

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Partial blocks should be available for testing in October on the Test Wikipedia and the Beta-Cluster. This new feature allows admins to block users from editing specific pages and in the near-future, namespaces and uploading files. You can expect more updates and an invitation to help with testing once it is available.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team is currently looking for input on how to measure the effectiveness of blocks. This is in particular related to how they will measure the success of the aforementioned partial blocks.
  • Because of a data centre test, you will be able to read but not edit the Wikimedia projects for up to an hour on 10 October. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time.

Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee has, by motion, amended the procedure on functionary inactivity.
  • The community consultation for 2018 CheckUser and Oversight appointments has concluded. Appointments will be made by October 11.
  • Following a request for comment, the size of the Arbitration Committee will be decreased to 13 arbitrators, starting in 2019. Additionally, the minimum support percentage required to be appointed to a two-year term on ArbCom has been increased to 60%. ArbCom candidates who receive between 50% and 60% support will be appointed to one-year terms instead.
  • Nominations for the 2018 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission are being accepted until 12 October. These are the editors who help run the ArbCom election smoothly. If you are interested in volunteering for this role, please consider nominating yourself.

23:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

22:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

23:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Notice

The file File:Map of Canada Hwy WPs.png has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Orphaned map.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated files}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page.

Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated files}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. ~ Rob13Talk 14:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

@BU Rob13: I have no objection, but since Mitchazenia has edited it I don't think it qualifies for U1. --Rschen7754 04:20, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
That certainly makes sense. It's probably best to wait out the seven days, given the other version uploaded. ~ Rob13Talk 10:27, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Books & Bytes, Issue 30

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Books & Bytes
Issue 30, August – Septmeber 2018

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The Signpost: 28 October 2018

20:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2018).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Partial blocks is now available for testing on the Test Wikipedia. The new functionality allows you to block users from editing specific pages. Bugs may exist and can be reported on the local talk page or on Meta. A discussion regarding deployment to English Wikipedia will be started by community liaisons sometime in the near future.
  • A user script is now available to quickly review unblock requests.
  • The 2019 Community Wishlist Survey is now accepting new proposals until November 11, 2018. The results of this survey will determine what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year. Voting on the proposals will take place from November 16 to November 30, 2018. Specifically, there is a proposal category for admins and stewards that may be of interest.

Arbitration

  • Eligible editors will be invited to nominate themselves as candidates in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections starting on November 4 until November 13. Voting will begin on November 19 and last until December 2.
  • The Arbitration Committee's email address has changed to arbcom-en@wikimedia.org. Other email lists, such as functionaries-en and clerks-l, remain unchanged.

17:28, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

19:22, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

That cinnamon crumb cake really wasn't that good... Drmies (talk) 02:47, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
@Drmies: Thanks. I don't know how the actual candidates do it, writing meaningful questions is hard enough. Glad I quit the voting guide game long ago (and the functionary game too, but that's a different story...) --Rschen7754 06:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder/Evidence. Please add your evidence by November 27, 2018, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, --Cameron11598 (Talk) 20:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

Hello, Rschen7754. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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23:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

22:22, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Closing that AN thread...

...was the right thing to do, so thank you. That you got beat up a bit by "both sides" for closing it... well, no good deed goes unpunished, as they say. Cheers, 28bytes (talk) 14:09, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

@28bytes: Thanks. I slept well last night (mainly because I didn't see this discussion until now!) but unfortunately it seems that I have done everything I can to resolve the above situation, so I intend on sleeping well tonight too. --Rschen7754 19:23, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 December 2018

Administrators' newsletter – December 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).

Administrator changes

readded Al Ameer sonRandykittySpartaz
removed BosonDaniel J. LeivickEfeEsanchez7587Fred BauderGarzoMartijn HoekstraOrangemike

Interface administrator changes

removedDeryck Chan

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
  • A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
  • A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
  • A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.

Technical news

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
  • Wikipedia policy requires administrators to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.

Obituaries


Toolforge: usrd-tools

I'm currently working on deprecating an infrastructure component in Toolforge called "BigBrother". I don't know if you're familiar with it but it basically restarts continuous jobs that failed and were not restarted automatically by the Grid Engine. There are certain situations where the Grid Engine might kill a job _and_ the wrapper script that was responsible for re-starting it.

I'm going through all tools that use BigBrother to try and figure out to which extent they are using BigBrother. I noticed *usrd-tools* do use it.

I would like to ask your permission to convert the .bigbrotherrc definitions into crontab entries. I may have to create a small shell script to keep feature parity with BigBrother. Would that be okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GiovanniTirloni (talkcontribs) 13:15, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

@GiovanniTirloni: Do you work for WMF? Is bigbrother scheduled to be deprecated? --Rschen7754 17:45, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I created this topic using my volunteer account, sorry. My WMF account is "GTirloni (WMF"). We would like to deprecate BigBrother ASAP because very few authors are using it and it increases the maintenance burden for the platform. We're currently working on migrating everything to newer servers and, if we can deprecate BigBrother before doing that, it means our migration is less painful. I've successfully converted the functionality that BigBrother provides into a shell script that you could keep in the usrd-tools home directory and I'd be happy to assist in enabling that. GiovanniTirloni (talk) 19:18, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

@GiovanniTirloni: In the future, when leaving notices like this, it is best to use a WMF account, and also to provide the ticket number (which someone had to point me to). I try to keep up with lists like cloud-announce but had to drop off the main list because I simply could not keep track of all the emails, and I generally only log into Labs once or twice a year due to my other on-and-off wiki commitments.
Anyway, converting it is fine but I would like to be able to review what took place afterwards. --Rschen7754 07:50, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

16:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Non-productive direction.

I found the direction I received at the Administrators Noticeboard edifying to an extreme. I received information that I needed and was able to assimilate easily, and it provided me with a clear and concise directive. I only mention this because your reasoning to close it was "Heading in a non-productive direction" or something to that effect, which was actually a bit of a fallacy, as I have just pointed out to you. Regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 06:33, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

@Hamster Sandwich: Quite specifically, this was to 1) prevent further passive-aggressive comments from you, and 2) to prevent further attacks from other editors. I understand that it must be disappointing for you to not have regained your adminship today, but making comments like that don't reflect well on you (think RFA), and some admins might even consider it blockable behavior if it continues. I hope that you don't leave Wikipedia over this, but if you want to, then do so in a dignified way, not like this. If you want to stay, there's plenty of things to do that don't require the admin tools. While I am still an admin, most of my contributions have been to content or developing spaces for collaboration. --Rschen7754 07:09, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Please refrain from insulting me again with your half-baked psychological assessment. Advice?? I didn't ask for any. You and I probably have a widely divergent concept of what "dignified" actually is. My concept includes not arguing about things I find unimportant. I was clear in in my remarks in that "discussion". I will tell you now in no uncertain terms, after which I will ignore you, and your contributions for all time... I don't care. I have said goodbye to the appropriate people, and quite frankly, you can do whatever you want... apply as much caprice, as much whim and as much of that seat-of-your pants intellectualism that you have displayed thus far in our (thankfully limited) communications. Respond how you like, I probably won't look anyways. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 11:45, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I agree with Rschen7754's closure of the thread and his advice here. It would be reasonable to say I haven't exactly seen eye to eye with Rschen7754 on everything, (for example, compare point 4 in the orange box at the top of the page to User:Ritchie333#One revert guarantee) so you should take my endorsement of his view as a broad consensus, not because I'm chums with other admins. You said you wanted the admin tools back, and were advised you would need to reapply at RfA. You suggested via another edit that you were going to run immediately. All Leaky said was (paraphrasing) "I strongly advise you not to just reapply at RfA; you will not pass", and empirical evidence shows that he is right. You then proceeded to call Leaky a "dickhead" and have accused Rschen of having a "half-baked psychological assessment". You have also asserted you do not plan to write anything in mainspace here, and normally we call that "not here to write an encyclopedia". If you want to revert vandalism, check out the improved "Recent changes" page which should make it easier for you to do so. Alternatively, I've got a requirement for somebody to write an article on the Hermes 3000 typewriter, which we don't appear to have. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:01, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
Ritchie333, I am afraid that you're wrong, as to what led Hamster to post the comment on Sarah's t/p.
After advising him at BN, LC went to his t/p and made this post, which is IMHO, something that shall really merit those often-abused NPA blocks.That was an entirely needless and intentional aggravation.
It's perfectly understandable that legacy-users can be a bit shaky, when denied the tools, (due to a multitude of factors, that he/she can comprehend at first glances). And, that's not a license to turn that into a shitshow of assuming bad faith and of being a jerk, when there are very valid scopes to assume good faith and deliver the same message in a far nuanced tone..
And, as much as this ain't any reason to to grant him the tools now, Hamster had the decency of choosing to opt for reinstatement of tools, only when he was certain about re-devoting enough time rather than at that very point, when he would have easily claimed back the tools. Somebody point those admins, who makes a sole edit to their user-page every-year, on receiving a notification of imminent-desysop and again, vanish into thin airs.
So, if you are (sort of) calling him out, for veering to NOTHERE, Iri's allegation about some weird sock-puppetry stuff (in one of the rare cases, where I disagree with his usually-pragmatic approach) and LC's t/p post ought be, as contributors to it.
To sum up:-- Across the BN thread and other areas, (prior to being made a party to some shitty reception), I see nothing wrong but a weak attempt to vouch for the fact that he was a solid guy, back in his days which does look credible, at first glances. WBGconverse 17:02, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
And, Hamster, please avoid giving impressions of being pointy, despite the entire episode. There have been a whole lot of editors who have lent a welcoming-hand to you and have been supportive to your re-integration into the community. If you venture for a few days, you will see that there are numerous areas where policies/their interpretations have radically changed over the course of last decade or so which is a major factor, behind the denial of your request and as much as we may want to believe you, the policy does not permit so, as we don't have a way to verify your claims of being a logged-out active editor. Also, that a lot of tools has been unbundled from the admin-toolkit, lowers the necessity of having a huge number of admins, for basic day-to-day editing purposes. Edit solidly for two years or so; churn out new-creations and/or GAs et al, fight vandalism, resolve disputes, claim the unbundles rights at WP:PERM by exhibiting a demonstrated need for usage and use them for the advantage of the encyclopedia and the community will surely welcome back you into the fold of mop-brigade. WBGconverse 17:16, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

After several days of reflection, I am compelled to offer a sincere apology to you. I also thank you for your- frankly- vast and admirable contributions to the project. I must also thank you for your intercession at the AN page. You will not find me haunting any of those boards in the future. I shall leave it at that. Best regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 07:07, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

@Hamster Sandwich: I accept your apology. FWIW, for all those contributions, I've made plenty of mistakes down the line. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best. --Rschen7754 07:42, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Two things I have always found to be true, in life as in art: 1.The truth always emerges; and 2.The proof is in the pudding. I thank you for your kind acceptance. Best regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 08:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
We also have Template:Did you know nominations/Hermes 3000, so all is well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:12, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

17:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

20:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Saturnalia

Happy Saturnalia
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:06, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Books & Bytes, Issue 31

The Wikipedia Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 31, October – Novemeber 2018

  • OAWiki
  • Wikimedia and Libraries User Group update
  • Global branches update
  • Bytes in brief

French version of Books & Bytes is now available on meta!
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The Signpost: 24 December 2018