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Books & Bytes - Issue 17

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Issue 17, April-May 2016
by The Interior, Ocaasi, UY Scuti, Sadads, and Nikkimaria

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:36, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

hat collector bot

Hi Rschen, just a heads-up that hat-collector has been down (disconnected in a netsplit and didn't come back) for a few hours now. Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 03:50, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

@L235: I've restarted it, let me know if it doesn't work. BTW, I'm hoping to find a new maintainer for this, as I am not really able to keep it running that effectively. --Rschen7754 04:13, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I'd happy to help with maintenance if I'm qualified to. Does that just involve occasionally running commands and keeping a server up, or does it also involve writing updates to the code, etc.? Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 04:35, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
You just need to have an account on Labs and know some basic Linux/Unix. If you know basic Python, you can edit the code, but you only need to do that to add new features or if WMF made a breaking change to the IRC feed. I think the latest how-to is at [1]. --Rschen7754 04:59, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
Alright. I'm wikitech:User:Lixxx235; already have a tools account. (Catch you on IRC sometime and we can discuss.) Thanks, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:11, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
I'll send you an email since I probably won't be on IRC until after my vacation. It should be straightforward. --Rschen7754 05:21, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Recovering Template:Jct/city

I would like to know if there is someway to recover the Template:Jct/city page from Wikipedia. I had noticed you had deleted it since it was unnecessary when everything went to Lua. I am trying to copy the Template:Jct series to Wikia to use it for highway templates there; however, Wikia is not compatible with the new Lua system. The most recent pre-Lua version of Template:Jct requires Template:Jct/city. I hope you can help. Thanks and God bless! Matthewshill (talk) 19:42, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

I've pasted the contents below. --Rschen7754 00:18, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

{{#if:{{{city1|}}}{{{location1|}}}| – {{#if:{{{location1|}}}|{{{location1|}}}|[[{{{city1}}}{{#if:{{{areadab1|}}}| ({{{areadab1}}})}}{{#if:{{{countydab1|}}}|, {{{countydab1}}} County}}{{#if:{{{statename|}}}|, {{{statename}}}}}|{{{city1}}}]]}}|}}<!-- -->{{#if:{{{city2|}}}{{{location2|}}}|, {{#if:{{{location2|}}}|{{{location2|}}}|[[{{{city2}}}{{#if:{{{areadab2|}}}| ({{{areadab2}}})}}{{#if:{{{countydab2|}}}|, {{{countydab2}}} County}}{{#if:{{{statename|}}}|, {{{statename}}}}}|{{{city2}}}]]}}|}}<!-- -->{{#if:{{{city3|}}}{{{location3|}}}|, {{#if:{{{location3|}}}|{{{location3|}}}|[[{{{city3}}}{{#if:{{{areadab3|}}}| ({{{areadab3}}})}}{{#if:{{{countydab3|}}}|, {{{countydab3}}} County}}{{#if:{{{statename|}}}|, {{{statename}}}}}|{{{city3}}}]]}}|}}<!-- -->{{#if:{{{city4|}}}{{{location4|}}}|, {{#if:{{{location4|}}}|{{{location4|}}}|[[{{{city4}}}{{#if:{{{areadab4|}}}| ({{{areadab4}}})}}{{#if:{{{countydab4|}}}|, {{{countydab4}}} County}}{{#if:{{{statename|}}}|, {{{statename}}}}}|{{{city4}}}]]}}|}}

Thanks! I really appreciate it. Thanks and God bless. Matthewshill (talk) 16:21, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Hollywood Freeway

Hello Rschen7754,

Do you have any idea about Talk:Hollywood_Freeway#South_End? AndyHe829 (talk) 09:48, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

District 4 Santa Clara County

Are there any archive newspapers for Santa Clara County? e.g. San Jose Mercury News, etc. Kevon kevono (talk) 18:00, 18 June 2016 (UTC) 11:00 (PDT)

@Kevon kevono: I think San Jose Mercury News is available but I would have to look again when I have more time. Remind me if I forget. --Rschen7754 08:25, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

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19:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

15:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

API change will break your bot

User:HWY Shield Bot was using http:// (instead of https://) to access the API over the weekend. This is going to completely break soon (~12 to 24 hours from now). You can find more information in this e-mail message from May. If you need help updating your code to use https:// , then you might be able to find some help at w:en:Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard or on the mailing list. Good luck, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:13, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): I fixed this about halfway through the run. In the future though, there has to be some better way to publicize this change, because I was only able to figure out what was going on after doing some digging in mailing list archives because I suspected that there was some breaking API change that I didn't know about. --Rschen7754 18:12, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
The mailing list announcement is the "official" method, but most editors (including me) don't keep up with the mailing lists. It's been on WP:BOTN for about two months, but I know a lot of bot operators don't watch that (especially people who don't edit the English Wikipedia regularly). I think it was mentioned once in Tech News (but not this week? That's probably my fault). What's a good way to reach people like you? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Part of the problem is that this is a Commons bot, so I had no reason to look at the enwiki bot noticeboard. Maybe next time run the error message for longer, and link to an explanation of the change in the error message? --Rschen7754 00:36, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
That's a great idea. I'll find out if Ops can do that.
My feeling overall is that most of my time on Commons seemed to end up on Fæ and Steinsplitter's talk pages. (Fæ is unfortunately losing some bots over this, and Steinsplitter was awesome about helping people fix things.) Does Commons have the equivalent of WP:BOTN? It's not linked in the sidebar here (but that doesn't prove anything). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:49, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
A link has been added to the error message. Thank you again for this idea; I hope that it saves someone else some frustration.
I'm also looking for a good place to record this suggestion, in the hope that the next time something affects the API, someone will have seen your idea and will follow the suggestion. If you've got ideas about where to document this, then please "Be bold" and add it yourself. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:42, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

12:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rschen. A summary of a Featured Article you nominated will appear on the Main Page soon. The TFA text mostly follows the lead section; how does it look? - Dank (push to talk) 20:11, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

It looks fine, though I suspect some talk page stalkers may catch stuff I didn't. --Rschen7754 04:19, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Congratulations Dave (talk) 17:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

FYI

[42] I agree with this edit, IMO the speed limits section is getting wily and needs to be pruned. May I ask what was the reason for reverting this? Dave (talk) 00:44, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps there's some in between that would be better. I agree that it is getting long, but I don't think the solution is to remove all the roads entirely. --Rschen7754 00:55, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

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Honest question

Will there be another role call at USRD? Some of the listed members have been inactive for at least a year, accounts banned, accounts renamed, etc Cards84664 (talk) 04:47, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

@Imzadi1979: who usually handles this sort of thing. --Rschen7754 04:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
It might be worth doing again sometime in the future, Cards84664. The last time we did it, we sent out a special edition of the newsletter to every project member asking them to confirm their status. We had done that in the process of consolidating the various subproject membership lists into the single main project list though.
Accounts which have been renamed can be changed at any time by anyone willing to check them. Accounts which are indefinitely banned can also be removed, although bans with a definite end point should not be removed as they'd need to be restored once the ban ends. Inactives, well, anyone could switch the status and leave them in the list, again if someone were willing to volunteer to go through the list. Imzadi 1979  05:29, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

19:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

SoCal Wiki-Dinner August 4

You can sign up here: Wikipedia:Meetup/San Diego/10.--Pharos (talk) 16:25, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

21:48, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

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15:41, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Template:NLinttop missing description details

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MorbidEntree - (Talk to me! (っ◕‿◕)っ♥)(please reply using {{ping}}) 18:03, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

19:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 August 2016

Proposed FAC mentoring scheme

Following discussions on the WP:FAC talkpage and with the agreement of the FAC coordinators, Mike Christie and I have finalized a "page of instructions" relating to the proposed voluntary mentoring scheme for new FAC nominators. The final draft can be viewed here.

We hope to begin the scheme shortly, on a trial basis. However, I think it would be unwise to go live until we have around a dozen or so potential mentors signed up – I hope many more than that will sign eventually. As your contribution to the discusssion indicated that you generally favoured the idea of a voluntary mentoring scheme, I am now inviting you to add your name to the list of possible mentors on the instruction page. I emphasize that the extent to which you commit yourself to this scheme is entirely a matter for you; you incur no specific obligation by adding your name. If anything about the scheme is not clear to you, please drop me a note and I'll try to explain. Brianboulton (talk) 11:41, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

@Brianboulton: Thanks for letting me know! I mainly review road articles (which are served by WP:HWY/ACR), so I'm not sure that adding my name to the list would be too helpful. I would love to mentor other subjects, but sadly I don't feel that I have the time. --Rschen7754 18:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
I fully understand. However, I would point out that you and you alone would decide when you mentor. Your name would be a valued addition to the list, even if you are not active immediately. Brianboulton (talk) 19:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

21:18, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

16:01, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Portal:California Roads

Portal:California Roads has been promoted to Featured Portal status per the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:California Roads. Thanks for your work in expanding the portal. North America1000 03:57, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 18

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Books & Bytes
Issue 18, June–July 2016
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi, Samwalton9, UY Scuti, and Sadads

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The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:25, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

17:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

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22:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Extended confirmed protection

Hello, Rschen7754. This message is intended to notify administrators of important changes to the protection policy.

Extended confirmed protection (also known as "30/500 protection") is a new level of page protection that only allows edits from accounts at least 30 days old and with 500 edits. The automatically assigned "extended confirmed" user right was created for this purpose. The protection level was created following this community discussion with the primary intention of enforcing various arbitration remedies that prohibited editors under the "30 days/500 edits" threshold to edit certain topic areas.

In July and August 2016, a request for comment established consensus for community use of the new protection level. Administrators are authorized to apply extended confirmed protection to combat any form of disruption (e.g. vandalism, sock puppetry, edit warring, etc.) on any topic, subject to the following conditions:

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18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Activity note

For the next several weeks I will have reduced activity due to real-life matters. I will check in every few days, but anything time sensitive should be sent elsewhere. --Rschen7754 05:34, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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21:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Wikiconference

Hi RSCHEN,

Are you attending the Wikipedia conference in downtown San Diego this weekend?

AndyHe829 (talk) 18:32, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

@AndyHe829: I was unable to make it due to some personal matters, but I do know other USRD members are there. --Rschen7754 18:41, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
@AndyHe829: I'm here at the library now attending the conference. Imzadi 1979  23:13, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
@Imzadi1979 (public): Sorry I missed your message today and for personal reason I will not attend the conference on Sunday. I just wanted to say Hi to you guys. But let us keep in contact in the future in Wikipedia and make highway articles better! AndyHe829 (talk) 04:55, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

20:30, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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Books and Bytes - Issue 19

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Books & Bytes
Issue 19, September–October 2016
by Nikkimaria, Sadads and UY Scuti

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19:07, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Double redirect task

I am a bit puzzled how you reached the conclusion you posted on the permissions request. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 04:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

It's reflective of a typical pattern I've seen on this wiki and globally, where people think that they are doing this invaluable task, are using it as an excuse to get high-powered rights, and won't take no for an answer or don't respond to criticism well. (Think Technical 13, Betacommand...) Seeing your exchange with Savh only confirms my feeling. --Rschen7754 05:18, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
I do not agree but hey, you are entitled to your opinion. I merely answered Savh's questions. Savh does not wish the problem to be resolved by bots or humans. You can imagine how that is counter productive. -- A Certain White Cat chi? 13:29, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

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