User talk:Rikfriday

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hi again

You're welcome. Good luck with your project Victuallers (talk) 13:55, 6 September 2008 (UTC) {{helpme}}

Hi, i do need help:

1. (cur) (last) 12:10, 20 September 2008 24.6.189.234 (Talk) (11,793 bytes) (→Etymology) (undo)
2. (cur) (last) 12:08, 20 September 2008 24.6.189.234 (Talk) (11,864 bytes) (→Fashion) (undo)
3. (cur) (last) 12:07, 20 September 2008 24.6.189.234 (Talk) (12,128 bytes) (→Locations) (undo)

this user deleted all my referenced information on the origin and derivation of the term cybergoth from a game company in the UK in 1988 and all my photos of cybergoth kids at Death Guild in San Francisco

I think there needs to be a separate page for CyberGoth as CyberKids (rave/trance) and CyberGoths (goth/industrial) kids both hate eachother and continue to delete each the other's content in favor of their own.

They attend opposite club and music scenes and they do not mingle.

If San Francisco Cybergoths are a unique culture, there should be a separate page on this subject which I have written before, but somebody moved it to Cyber (subculture) and deleted the entire page.

It's like having a page called Teen Music Lovers and puttting an article about how the Mods and the Rockers all hang out together, or the hippies and the punks run around and party together all night.

Putting them on the same page confuses the reader and there are several references to that face in the discussion page from previous years. Nobody know one from the other.

thanks if you can help.

I prefer the idea of a separate page on San Francisco's Death Guild club which is strictly a CyberGoth club. Nobody likes or listens to trance/rave and trance/rave or 'cyberkid' tourists who come to the club waving their glow sticks now and then are looked upon as a severe source of iritation. The main cybergoth boy who works in the cybergoth fashion industry and sells cybergoth clothes on Haight Street in San Francisco, is a semi-professional sharpshooter and when he practices on the shooting range, he uses 'trance-raver cyberkid photos' as targets.

It's easy to understand if you come to compare the clubs in person, and I think i did a good job of separating the stylistic differences, but I would rather have a seaparte page for Death Guild if we are unique in the world, there is no reason why this rising counter culture should be deleted if the rest of the world is living in the past and prefers to maintain their status quo self image.

thanks again. PS we don't have tildes on our computers here. (Rikfriday (talk) 13:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)).

• First of all, please read WP:ORG, the notability guideline for organizations, and tell me how you think they meet it. Just saying it's notable doesn't make it so. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 15:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Cybergoth

If you have a good argument why that should be included, take it to Talk:Goth subculture. Zazaban (talk) 01:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

You have virtually no idea what you are talking about. That girl is barely 18, she doesn't know what fetish even means.Kids have been wearing bondage/fetish gear as a social statement since PUNK Rock fashion was invented and it has nothing to do with sex. it's a joke. (Rikfriday (talk) 13:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)).

Hi again

Sorry missed your message. Have another try? When you are ready. Remember there are 2.5m articles! Victuallers (talk) 11:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

{{helpme}} Sorry I hadn't heard of this rule against too many reversals of vandalism. A user was randomly deleting encyclopedic references to the information relating to the origin of the term "cybergoth" and all the photos I contributed to the Cybergoth fashion page with no explanation whatsoever. They've been up for a month and were excellent photos and examples of the style.

He deleted several of my referenced sections, but mainly the photos are classic examples of this new style of dress.

There seems to a war against "cybergoths", who are goth/industrial club goers and "cyberkids" who are Trance/Ravers over the word Cyber. there are constant deletions on this page leaning toward erasing cybergoths and adding cyberkids. the word Cyberpunk actually stradles the two genres but has no meaning in the world of club music whatsoever.

I think the two pages should be separated into Cyberkid (trans/rave subculture) and Cybergoth (goth/industrial subculture).

The two factions are warring music factions who HATE eachother and have virtually no interest in either one or the other's music or style.

Every person at Death Guild dresses CyberGoth. The type of Cyber Clothing at Trance Rave Clubs in Europe and Canada which is refered to as CyberKid is unknown in this City.

It is absurd to continue to lump two opposite music cultures into the same page merely because they have the same prefix.

I began to edit the page because a 'Cyberkid' deleted all references to CyberGoth and Cyberpunk entirely and rambled about himself and his friends at his trance/rave club in his city.

I replaced the terms and added referenced explanations of the derivations of the terms and now somebody else is deleting references, explanations and info about the origin of cybergoths repeatedly giving no explanation whatsoever. So i reversed his deletions.

I put all the Cybergoth information on a separate Page earlier this week and somebody moved them all back to the Cyber (subculture) page for no reason.

I would rather they be on a separate page. i will call in Cybergoth, as the 'goth page' has deleted the info on Cybergoth which I added to current contemporat subculture boundries and the Cyber page continues to do the same.

These categories of music and fashion are warring clans who do no get along or go to the same music clubs and have a few accessories in common, but they do not attend the same clubs or otherwise blend with eachother in any way, shape, or form. It is well known at Death Guild, that all the regulars are highly disturbed when some glowstick waving tourist from europe or canada comes wandering in dancing with some annoying glowsticks and flashy things and appears to think they are attending a rave/trance club.

If San Francisco CyberGoths are a unique style of Cybergoths in the world, which may well be the case, as the information I enter about this scene, then I should be allowed to enter the data on a separate page, in reference to the city or purely the nightclub "Death Guild" which may be a unique instance of the birth of a new counterculture which the other cities may not understand whatsoever. It's happened here before. San Franciscan have their own style and taste and have frequently been on the cutting edge of fashion and music in the past 50 years.

The people who attend the nightclub are mostly centered around Haight Ashbury, the birthplace of American Rock and Roll in the 1960's. (Rikfriday (talk) 13:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC))

September 2008

You have been blocked from editing for a short time in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Toddst1 (talk) 02:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I hadn't heard of this rule. A user was randomly deleting encyclopedic references to the information relating to the origin of the term "cybergoth" and the Photos I contributed to the Cybergoth fashion page with no explanation whatsoever. They've been up for a month and were excellent photos and examples of the style.

He deleted several of my referenced sections, but mainly the photos are classic examples of this new style of dress.

Sorry guy, but the style in your picture gallery wasn't new. The pictures showed only a handful of simple Goths. And Goths look like the people on your photos since 25 years. There was nothing Cyber and there was nothing new. --Ada Kataki (talk) 09:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

There seems to a war against "cybergoths", who are goth/industrial club goers and "cyberkids" who are Trance/Ravers over the word Cyber. there are constant deletions on this page leaning toward erasing cybergoths and adding cyberkids. the word Cyberpunk actually stradles the two genres but has no meaning in the world of club music whatsoever.

I think the two pages should be separated into Cyberkid (trans/rave subculture) and Cybergoth (goth/industrial subculture).

The two factions are warring music factions who HATE eachother and have virtually no interest in either one or the other's music or style.

Every person at Death Guild dresses CyberGoth. The type of Cyber Clothing at Trance Rave Clubs in Europe and Canada which is refered to as CyberKid is unknown in this City.

It is absurd to continue to lump two opposite music cultures into the same page merely because they have the same prefix.

I began to edit the page because a 'Cyberkid' deleted all references to CyberGoth and Cyberpunk entirely and rambled about himself and his friends at his trance/rave club in his city.

I replaced the terms and added referenced explanations of the derivations of the terms and now somebody else is deleting references, explanations and info about the origin of cybergoths repeatedly giving no explanation whatsoever. So i reversed his deletions.

I put all the Cybergoth information on a separate Page earlier this week and somebody moved them all back to the Cyber (subculture) page for no reason.

I would rather they be on a separate page. i will call in Cybergoth, as the 'goth page' has deleted the info on Cybergoth which I added to current contemporat subculture boundries and the Cyber page continues to do the same.

These categories of music and fashion are warring clans who do no get along or go to the same music clubs and have a few accessories in common, but they do not attend the same clubs or otherwise blend with eachother in any way, shape, or form. It is well known at Death Guild, that all the regulars are highly disturbed when some glowstick waving tourist from europe or canada comes wandering in dancing with some annoying glowsticks and flashy things and appears to think they are attending a rave/trance club.

If San Francisco CyberGoths are a unique style of Cybergoths in the world, which may well be the case, as the information I enter about this scene, then I should be allowed to enter the data on a separate page, in reference to the city or purely the nightclub "Death Guild" which may be a unique instance of the birth of a new counterculture which the other cities may not understand whatsoever. It's happened here before. San Franciscan have their own style and taste and have frequently been on the cutting edge of fashion and music in the past 50 years.

The people who attend the nightclub are mostly centered around Haight Ashbury, the birthplace of American Rock and Roll in the 1960's. (Rikfriday (talk) 13:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC))

Re: Your helpme requests

Hi there. What seems to be occurring is considered a content dispute. You should discuss the content on the talk page of the article in order to gain consensus for whether or not it should be included. As for the three-revert rule, the only exception is the reversion of blatant vandalism. The removal of content by someone who does not feel that the content should be in the article is not blatant vandalism, it is a content dispute...see WP:3RR. You may also wish to take a look at WP:DR. --Nick—^Contact/_Contribs 15:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your helpme requests

there is always a dispute on that page over the word cyber being used for Trance/Ravers and Cyber being Cyber Goths.

They are unrelataed and don't mix and hate each other and should be on different pages.

I made a separate page for cybergoth and it was moved by an unknown person to the cyber page and then deleted.

(Rikfriday (talk) 21:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)).

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