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WikiCup 2022 September newsletter

The fourth round of the WikiCup has now finished. 383 points were required to reach the final, and the new round has got off to a flying start with all finalists already scoring. In round 4, Bloom6132 with 939 points was the highest points-scorer, with a combination of DYKs and In the news items, followed by BennyOnTheLoose, Sammi Brie and Lee Vilenski. The points of all contestants are swept away as we start afresh for the final round.

At this stage, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. For the remaining competitors, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them, and importantly, before the deadline on October 31st!

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I have been trying to enter and verify all onion links on the list(see:[1]). Given your interest, I invite you to also verify these and add them with reference to wikidata. I have finished from Communications to News and Archive. You can start from Software and work your way up. Thanks! Greatder (talk) 12:33, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Lightbreather

The Arbitration Committee is considering an unban appeal from Lightbreather (talk · contribs). You are being notified as you participated in the last unban discussion. You may give feedback here. For the Arbitration Committee, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:36, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Barkeep49. Do you have a handy link to the past discussion? I'm finding it surprisingly hard to find (it's surprisingly hard to find anything in the various arbitration-related pages). Seems like it should, at minimum, be documented on the case page, right? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:07, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Ah. Nevermind. Pppery linked it. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:21, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Eastern chipmunk
An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status
Your image, File:Chipmunk with stuffed cheeks in Prospect Park (05980).jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust The Homunculus 17:27, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Way to go! Love those cheeks. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:34, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
@Firefangledfeathers: Thanks. Someone actually cropped it and added it to cheek pouch, too. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:36, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
...yeah, yeah, I know... Always messing with your nice photos. Sorry about that... NOT! :-D Congrats! cart-Talk 18:39, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

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Signpost Obituary

Took the liberty of fixing up the formatting a bit. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.1% of all FPs 01:25, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, this fell off my radar for a bit. Let me know if there's something I can still help with. Didn't get a response to my follow-up on Commons but can reach out to some dewp folks if it would be helpful. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 12:40, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
@Adam Cuerden: pinging -- could've sworn the reply link automatically did that. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 12:41, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
I know there's a discussion on commons:Commons talk:FPC. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.1% of all FPs 14:37, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Sep 28: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election/Members Meeting (+October 2 picnic)

September 28, 7pm: ONLINE Wikimedia NYC Annual Election/Members Meeting
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mass creation of articles

Regarding your comment: I believe the support statement agrees with you in that passing the guidelines they mentioned demonstrates that the standards for having an article are met. isaacl (talk) 23:18, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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It'll just be gamed

Would you like to write an essay about the logical fallacy of "It'll just be gamed"? This objection has been trotted out in a variety of situations, usually to claim that we can't provide clear guidance, because it'll just be gamed. (If it's short enough, it might be possible to insert a line about this into Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:11, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

@WhatamIdoing: Ha. I was thinking something very much along those lines. I'll ping you if I do. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:16, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Sat Oct 29: Wikidata Day in NYC

Sat Oct 29: Wikidata Day in NYC
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Wikidata 10th Birthday

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for Wikidata Day in NYC, an event marking the Wikidata 10th Birthday with a celebration and mini-conference. The all-day event will feature beginner workshops, keynote presentations, breakout group discussions, lightning talks and yes, CAKE.

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Interesting research on broadband

Saw this data journalism article today and thought you might be interested. It looks at internet speed disparities between areas of historical redlining. There are some really interesting results. In Kansas City, Missouri--the worst performing city--68% of residents in neighborhoods historically allocated to marginalized home buyers received internet download speeds <25Mb/s. That's apparently so slow that the FCC doesn't even consider it broadband internet. For residents in neighborhoods historically allocated to non-marginalized home buyers, only 12% received speeds that slow despite paying the same price. It's a very thorough piece of data journalism, and raises interesting questions about equity of access to wikis.

In recent years, I remember reading discussions about article size appealing to the rise of high-speed internet and ubiquity of broadband as a reason to weaken or ignore Wikipedia:Article size. This always would effect readers with limited broadband (such as rural readers) but this investigation suggests that the disparities may also lead to racial and economic disparities beyond the geographic ones. For example, a 75kB article (probably worth splitting per our guidelines), a reader in a historically redlined neighborhood who has inequitable internet access would need to wait 22 seconds for the whole article to load! Add on any gadgets, user scripts, and custom CSS that an editor might have on top of the usual reader, and this turns out to be a serious barrier.

It might be interesting to investigate these implications further. How has article size changed over time? Where is the readership coming from? How might the inequity of broadband along historical redlining patterns affect access to content and editing abilities? — Wug·a·po·des​ 19:59, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Wugapodes. I haven't had time to properly go through this yet, but initial impressions: can't say I'm surprised that there are a range of disadvantages correlated with redlined areas. I imagine lack of infrastructure (area-wide as well as individual houses/structures), differences in assumptions about what people can afford that ISPs build in to marketing of higher speed plans [or lack thereof], straightforward speed tiering, etc. On the wiki side, I feel like there must be some other factor in wiki page downloads. As a test, I used a relatively large page, birding in New York City (86kb). I ran a speed test on my phone (my home network is faster), and found about 36Mbps download. Based on that, the page should take upwards of 20 seconds to download, but it's completely readable in about 3 seconds (which, according to my speed test results, is even faster than my home network should process it). I guess it probably loads text first, then menus, then images, then javascript, or something like that? Maybe someone with more technical knowledge (perhaps Legoktm or Enterprisey?) understands it. My watchlist, on the other hand, requires a pretty good wait -- and even then it behaves oddly sometimes -- but there I know I have lots of scripts/gadgets working hard. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:53, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Also, I'm quite sure I've seen some charts about article size over time, but the best thing I see at the moment is the chart at Wikipedia:Size of Wikipedia that shows average words per article increasing from 267 in January 2001 to 642 in October 2022. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:55, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Birding in New York City

On 23 October 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Birding in New York City, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that birders in New York City have recorded over 400 species? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Birding in New York City. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Birding in New York City), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Fifteenth anniversary on Wikipedia!

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society

Dear Rhododendrites/2022d,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. ​

Best regards, Chris Troutman (talk) 19:30, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Sounds so distinguished. A date commemorating this excellent contribution. :) Userbox updated. Thanks. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:30, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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Sat Nov 12: WikiConference North America in NYC

Sat Nov 12: WikiConference North America in NYC
Like Wikidata Day last month, this event will be at Brooklyn Public Library by Grand Army Plaza.
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RfC at Stacey Abrams

Hi. Just a note to let you know that, as far as I can tell, you appear to have arrived at an RfC after it was agreed to cancel it. The cancellation was due to its having been launched by an editor who launched it just before his TBAN from American Politics was made official. Because the thread was closed, your comment has been hatted along with several others. The options in the RfC were written by the banned editor and do not reflect any agreement as to what any RfC might propose. I hope you will continue to participate at the talk page and/or BLPN if you wish. I am going to archive the aborted RfC so that the same thing doesn't happen again. Thanks for your understanding. SPECIFICO talk 15:36, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

All fine with me. Thanks for the heads up. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:40, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

WikiCup 2022 November newsletter

The 2022 WikiCup has drawn to a close with the final round going down to the wire. The 2022 champion is

  • England Lee Vilenski (1752 points), who won in 2020 and was runner up in both 2019 and last year. In the final round he achieved 3 FAs and 15 GAs, mostly on cue sports. He was closely followed by
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132 (1732), who specialised in "In the news" items and DYKs, and who has reached the final round of the Cup for the past three years. Next was
  • Zulu (International Code of Signals) BennyOnTheLoose (1238), another cue sports enthusiast, also interested in songs, followed by
  • New York City Muboshgu (1082), an "In the news" contributor, a seasoned contestant who first took part in the Cup ten years ago. Other finalists were
  • Sammi Brie (930), who scored with a featured article, good articles and DYKs on TV and radio stations,
  • United Nations Kavyansh.Singh (370), who created various articles on famous Americans, including an FA on Louis H. Bean, famed for his prediction of election outcomes. Next was
  • Chicago PCN02WPS (292), who scored with good articles and DYKs on sporting and other topics and
  • Toronto Z1720 (25) who had DYKs on various topics including historic Canadians.

During the WikiCup, contestants achieved 37 featured articles, 349 good articles, 360 featured article reviews, 683 good article reviews and 480 In the news items, so Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors. Well done everyone! All those who reached the final round will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or the overall leader in this field.

  • England Lee Vilenski wins the featured article prize, for a total of 6 FAs during the course of the competition and 3 in the final round.
  • United Nations Kavyansh.Singh wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 2.
  • Adam Cuerden wins the featured picture prize, for 39 FPs during the competition.
  • Toronto Z1720 wins the featured article reviewer prize, for 35 FARs in round 4.
  • New York (state) Epicgenius wins the good article prize, for 32 GAs in round 1.
  • SounderBruce wins the featured topic prize, for 4 FT articles in round 1.
  • England Lee Vilenski wins the good topic prize, for 34 GT articles in round 5.
  • Sammi Brie wins the good article reviewer prize, for 71 GARs overall.
  • Sammi Brie wins the Did you know prize, for 30 DYKs in round 3 and 106 overall.
  • Kingdom of Scotland Bloom6132 wins the In the news prize, for 106 ITNs in round 5 and 289 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January and possible changes to the rules and scoring are being discussed on the discussion page. You are invited to sign up to take part in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to have a good turnout for the 2023 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners and finalists, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:28, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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Helping people

Just out of interest – are you actually aware of anyone in Russia being in any real way helped by WMF? My recollection (which may be incomplete) was that the chap in Belarus for example basically coped alone with the situation. To be fair, there wasn't much the WMF could have done, either. Which is why I think the argument that "we are collecting money so we can help improve the human rights situation of our editors in Russia" is flawed. But I am always interested in hearing more about this if there is stuff I'm missing. Regards, --Andreas JN466 13:55, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jayen466: That's not really something I'd be aware of. I was just trying to clarify what I think Victoria's point was, which is that looking at line items for $ allocated to certain countries doesn't actually tell you what [whatever the foundation spends money on] does for readers/editors in that country. i.e. the staff, departments, programs, initiatives, services, etc. that are concentrated in places like the US, UK, and Germany, benefit people outside of those countries. As for how much benefit, I think that would be hard to quantify. YMMV. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 17:00, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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Nov 30: WikiWednesday Salon in Brooklyn + online

Nov 30: WikiWednesday @ BPL + on Zoom
WikiWednesday is back in-person, pizza included!

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon, with in-person at Brooklyn Public Library by Grand Army Plaza, in the Central Library's Info Commons Lab, as well as an online-based participation option. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!

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Continuation of your side point from SchroCat discussion

Hi Rhododendrites! I wanted to address your comment on infoboxes ("Can't we just say all articles get infoboxes") from AN here to avoid further cluttering an already muddled and complicated discussion.

In a perfect world, yes. My personal opinion is that the infobox should be the default for articles which cover people, places, or any other appropriate field, unless a clear consensus is against it; if a discussion results in No Consensus or Consensus in Favor of an Infobox, by default, the article should have one. However, at least from my point of view (bias alert), there is a small but powerful group of veteran editors which seem to "filibuster" (for lack of a better term) their adoption, particularly in media personalities' articles, insisting that readers must read prose instead of infobox. I'm assuming that you've seen some of the discussions that I've been participating in with regard to IB's.

Since I'm working on other articles to a greater degree, I don't plan on bringing this up at the Village Pump myself, though if you are interested in doing so, I'd be happy to offer my opinion on there. Thanks for reading! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:06, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

@InvadingInvader: Don't know how long you've been watching these discussions, but it's a debate that's many, many years old. That you're characterizing those who disagree with you as "filibustering" is, I dare say, a big part of why there's conflict. It's all personal preference. You like them, people like SchroCat don't. That's all there is to it. You say it helps readers, he says it doesn't, but there's no evidence either way. If there were compelling evidence, that should influence our policy on infoboxes rather than need to be hashed out every time. Some people say the type of subject matters, other people just like/dislike infoboxes in general. It basically comes down to a vote, which get complicated when people feel strongly enough to go around to multiple articles just to add/remove an infobox. It turns it into a pure numbers game.
The people who oppose infoboxes most are usually the people who care about the quality of the writing the most, and hence the people who care about things like FAs. They feel that the prose in the lead, which they've spent a huge amount of time crafting, summarizes a subject better than an infobox, and that if someone just looks at the infobox they don't actually get a good overview of the subject. So they object. That's not filibustering but a different perspective that's no less valid than "I think they help readers". Putting in tens and hundreds of hours working on an article, getting feedback, revising, building out gradually over time ... it doesn't give them absolute authority, but it does mean they're more familiar with the subject and the many ways to present information about the subject than probably anyone else. To the extent that the subject itself matters, that should count or something. And personally, when we have no policies and guidelines to go by for infoboxes, I find their experience with the subject a better reason to judge whether or not there should be an infobox than opinions of people for/against who just like/dislike infoboxes or think they're generally helpful. I don't care about infoboxes myself. I just find the whole debate over them, and the extent to which people are triggered by them (or their absence), and the number of people willing to show up at absolutely any infobox thread to give the same opinion they always give...exhausting, and would rather just end it. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:21, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
I would agree with this take. I recognize I have a bias, but if we could just end the war, that would be nice. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:23, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

That thread...

...is really long, and "the logged out user who is not SchroCat"--I missed that. Which edits? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@Drmies: This one, with a first edit removing an infobox. Perhaps also these and who knows which others in related ranges. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 23:38, 16 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. GeneralNotability, surely you saw what I saw, right? In my contributions you can see the related warning I left; if Rhododendrites is correct in saying that this user is actively and purposely disruptive (please see my edits at ANI in another thread), then maybe a block is in order. Drmies (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Drmies, if I'm correctly understanding what you're asking - yes, I see what you see (seasonally appropriate, Do You Hear What I Hear? - today I learned that that song isn't named "Do You See What I See"), and that behavior appears to have been going on for quite a while. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:29, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Rhododendrites, Thanks very much for your comments at AN. They were very much appreciated! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 22:34, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

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Happy holidays

Happy New Year!

Happy holidays to yourself as well! I'm using the same picture because honestly, I don't think I could find something to top this! It's been a crazy year, to say the least, and I hope that everything is going well with you! I admit that I also don't use Facebook all that much anymore, mostly just for messenger or to check on a business's hours or something like that. Happy holidays! ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 19:27, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks so much for your greetings. Years ago I was involved in a controversy as to what Wikipedia was, specifically whether it was social media or not. The outcome was to remove the comparison altogether. It is a communications forum, albeit in a targeted manner. All the best to you! - kosboot (talk) 02:15, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

@Kosboot: (and sort of responding to Pdebee from his talk page, too) - Yeah, it's a tough comparison to make. Certainly articles shouldn't be confused with social media, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and a community, and healthy communities need to foster forms of communication that aren't strictly "talking shop". So non-article namespaces can at times resemble social media, which seems like a good thing to me as long as people aren't here just for the social network (but even that doesn't really do any harm). I mean I have silly things like userboxes about The Prisoner, chess, and Katamari Damacy on my userpage, have had talk page exchanges that were nothing but music recommendations, etc. (BTW along those lines, I'll mention that RoySmith drew my attention to Too Many Zooz the other day, and they're pretty great.) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:34, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

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A warm cup of tea for you! Cheers!

Happy New Year & Holidays Rhododendrites! Please enjoy this warm cup of tea! Thank you for the insightful Wiki-thoughts and edits you've shared over this year (and years past)! To more conversation and editing in 2023! - Wil540 art (talk) 17:03, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Bird question

Hello, sorry to bother you but I'm not sure where else to ask. And I know European birds are not American birds but...any idea what bird is in this photo? thumb|Max Wenner from online catalog of the state archive of Kanton St. Gallen Or even any ideas if it's a hawk vs falcon vs something else? TIA. jengod (talk) 03:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jengod: hey. Generally happy to help with a bird id. This is very likely the genus Accipiter (one of two genera of hawk), but I'm not sure which species. The tricky thing is location doesn't help much. Falconers get their birds from all over and there are a number of hawks that look pretty similar. Someone more knowledgeable than me might be able to tell, though. Could post it to e.g. /r/whatsthisbird. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 04:30, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
I'll do that! I'd say hawk on first glance but I'll ask the good people of Reddit. THANK YOU. jengod (talk) 04:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Update: Northern goshawk and springer spaniel, just FYI :P thx again jengod (talk) 05:29, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jengod: Ah! I should've been able to get that! :) Well, Accipiter nonetheless. Glad they were able to help. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 21:16, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Rhododendrites!

Happy New Year!

Rhododendrites,
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Happy New Year!

Rhododendrites,
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