User talk:Return to Monkey Island

April 2022

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Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:43, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Return to Monkey Island (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

don't understand what it means? I only made this account this month Return to Monkey Island (talk) 18:08, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
the block is no longer necessary because you
1. understand what you have been blocked for,
2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 18:33, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

UTRS appeal #57459

is closed. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to use unblock

There's like 4 but look last thing they all got removed when I was saying idk why there thier. I'm not spamming it I don't know how to use this. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 18:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In a nutshell, you were blocked because Checkuser linked you to a previous user that was indefinitely blocked for bad behavior. This is a technical linking, although there may be behavioral reasons that have linked you. Put more simply: You have had previous accounts and have been blocked before, and there is pretty solid evidence to back up this claim. This evidence will not be shared publicly. I suggest finding another hobby. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 18:56, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Something I did in 2007 means I can't edit now in 2022? That's a long grudge when I've not vandalised one page and that redlink thing I got a chance on (can't be held against me cos that's what all you admins ruled on) and haven't done anything since except see if I could use an old account I forgot about. If the answer was no then fine but why block here when I didn't vandalise. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 12:43, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway don't I have the right to forget and get a fresh start? Return to Monkey Island (talk) 12:49, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the extraneous unblock requests that didn't work. I'm not sure if that fixed all of the problems. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 22:27, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks I honestly couldn't get it to work it was just like (unblock here's why) no template or sending messages. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 13:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Return to Monkey Island (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

PLEASE DON'T SKIM OVER THIS AND PLEASE READ COS I THOUGHT VERY CARFULY ABOUT MY POSITION. The ONLY thing that matters on wiki is if the edit helps the page and I have always tried to do that. Look through all of them and you'll see I tried to and discussed with admins about what I did wrong and I agreed not to and they gave me one more chance and I did not make anymore removal of redlinks. Admins don't own wiki they can't decide I'm never allowed to use this site. If I make an account in 2025 will I be banned for puppet or 2030? The og sock claim is from 2007. Where does the line end? Ok I messed up in 07 so I'm never allowed to use this site? Cards on the table I don't want to be blocked from this site forever ok? So I made an account with out vandalising because I want to be on this site and improve it. Are you the same person as you was in 07? I think the right to forget and have a clean slate. Can please not just scan though this and go nope. And think well he had an account in 2007 that was bad so do we punish him forever? Add: I have done nothing this year to deserve block to that point since the admin staff and me came to an agreement over my edits so just owning a bad account from 07 shouldn't be enough when I didn't vandalise with it when I went on there in 2022.

Decline reason:

WP:SO from your original account is your best option here. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 18:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I was a kid in 2007. Do I get punished forever for vandalising I did back in the day when everyone was doing it cos Wiki was newish and more laxed. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 13:46, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My only crime was logging in a decade old account because I had a lot of admins upset at me and I wanted a fresh start with out this baggage I honestly didn't think it was a big deal. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 14:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of notes for the reviewing admin: I did not check this account directly. Return to Monkey Island popped up in a check of an old blocked account that appeared out of the blue to request an unblock after several years. It was obvious when I ran the check that the editor making the appeal was also currently editing as Return to Monkey Island (which they do not deny). While actively editing with this account, and while their edits were being discussed at ANI, they tried to get their old account unblocked without making any note of the connection between accounts and also tried to gain access to another (unblocked) account, but failed. This is a pretty straight forward violation of WP:SOCK.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 15:55, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't try to unblock it until AFTER I was told it was resolved (one more chance comment). And it was just to get a clean break not edit with malicious intent. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 15:58, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And I didn't know I had t make any note of my connection I don't know all the rules. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 15:59, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know I was breaking a rule and will only use this one account if it gets unblocked from now on. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 16:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see the mistakes I made now but was never trying to vandalise or evade I just felt like "ohh this account has a lot of heat on it" Maybe a new one would make it easier but then thought I'd use one's I did yeeeeears ago and the one I remembered an old pass for. I did that unblock cos I assumed someone would go "oh yh 15 years I'll unblock now" Not to be a sock troll thing but cos I just wanted a fresh start and failed badly. But at no point did I edit on that page or here with bad intent. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 16:12, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At the time of trying to unblock that old account I was on the understanding that the notice board thingy was over and I was allowed to keep editing so I was no trying to hide from them to escape a ban. I was trying to use a different one because in my mind there was a lot of bad blood towards me cos of it (I'm sure one of the admins hates me) so I just wanted to edit away from prying eyes waiting for me to slip up NOT to go I better make a use a new one cos there banning me cos of my vandalism because that WAS resolved and I got my point across and was told I was forgien. I had not made a bad edit since only thing against me is logging in this account. I know now I should have discloused and wouldn't have even bothered but I'm sorry I didn't know that. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will use this and only this account from now on if unblocked I understand exactly what I did wrong now and have and will continue to follow the admins instructions such as I didn't rant and yell about this but tried my best to get my point across. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 16:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear

Now Ponyo (great movie btw) told me I should have disclosed my connection when trying to get into old accounts I now understand what I did wrong and will not repeat that mistake. It was never anything but an attempt to feel less pressure editing (backfired) and I had 0 intention of spamming trolling fighting blanking or anything else other than contribute to building an encylopecia. I know I have flooded this page now but I will freely admit I'm not the best with words to someimes I think I need to add to this to really get across my point because I don't want to be blocked forever.

So let me just say I had no ill intent I now fully understand my mistake and the trolling was 15 years ago. The notice board thing was to my knowledge resolved and I didn't knowingly break a rule and what I did end up breaking isn't one that would be super clear like say don't add insults or rumors to a page. Sorry if I'm filling all this up but I'm just trying my best with limted knolleg of wiki to stay on here but the best thing I can say is I'm here to help and learn and not ruin or hurt any pages or usersReturn to Monkey Island (talk) 16:53, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also I am genuinely sorry for the trouble it has caused. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 17:05, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You have a Checkuser block. I couldn't unblock if I wanted to (and I don't). Only a Checkuser can unblock you, given the status of the block. You "coming clean" now, after you have already been definitively linked to the prior accounts, hardly counts as a confession. Even if you weren't a sockpuppet, I would be against unblocking you simply because you lack the temperament and competency to participate in a collaborative environment. Both of those issues, socking and CIR/abusive attitude, means you probably should give up, as you are likely wasting your time. There are other hobbies, I suggest you find one. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 17:36, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I understand you do not like me although I would say it's hardly fair I have to put my point across to an admin for my appeal and have someone which much more experience and knowledge of Wikipedia shot down what I'm saying when I have very little means of getting my say across when Wiki desn't proide with a defence but the prosecutors if you will are much more versed then I am.

I am not confessing so much as I wasn't aware it was against the rules and I now know what they are and will not make another account or try to use the one from years ago that I did.

Your comments about my temperament however was addressed in the noticeboard and I was given a pass/forgiven/chance (idk the right words) and as this case isn't about my temperament those comments shouldn't apply here as it was addressed and I have not attacked anyone since so that should have no bearing on this matter as it was resolved. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 17:45, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I had no idea I had to disclose I used this account when I tried to unblock an account from 07 that I admit I used badly 15 years ago. I fully understand what I should have done now and I was never attempting to vandalise during my mistake. I am sorry for the trouble it has caused I am only here to learn and help edit constructively. I was forgiven on the noticeboard and made constructive edits after that so my only mistake was logging in a 2007 account and not disclosing about this I am sorry about this I wanted to get a fresh start not bring all this down.

I never had ill intentions and will work to make wiki a better place if allowed thank you Return to Monkey Island (talk) 18:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you review the Standard Offer.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 18:10, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So if I come back in 6 months (bit long lol) with no editing on here or logged off you'll let me use the site? Return to Monkey Island (talk) 18:13, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If I follow the 6th month thingy in October can I use this account again (not the 07 one)Return to Monkey Island (talk) 18:18, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Standard Offer

I will take the standard offer and will not edit in anyway for 6 months(unless an admin says something to this that needs a reply) I do think this is overkill(like the finishing moves on FFX) for logging into an old account and making a request that I regret but ok I'm a team player I would like to be able to use this account and not the 07 as this is a personal one and that was a throw away one. I will put a request in in October hopefully you will see I am committed to being a force for good on wikipedia Return to Monkey Island (talk) 18:35, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unban it's been long

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Return to Monkey Island (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I waited the special offer period thing."The user wants to take the standard offer "(it's mentioned above here) As the late Terry Pratchet said through Lord Vetinari "The first interesting thing about angels, Mr. Lipwig, is that sometimes, very rarely, at a point in a man's career where he has made such a foul and tangled mess of his life that death appears to be the only sensible option, an angel appears to him, or, 1 should say, unto him, and offers him a chance to go back to the moment when it all went wrong, and this time do it right. " Will you be my angel and let me right my wrongs and work to improve wiki there for the world. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 08:57, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Confirmed trolling on 2022-10-12. So, you aren't eligible for the standard offer at this time and your actions in October demonstrate it would be a disaster to unblock you. Nor have you come close to addressing the concerns that lead to your block. You are next eligible no sooner than 2023-06-06 and only if you make zero edits between now and then. I concur with the above, it's time for you to find another hobby because Wikipedia is not suited to what you do. Yamla (talk) 11:17, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I meant Standard offer Return to Monkey Island (talk) 09:00, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I'll try again next year since I have been given that legal option. Return to Monkey Island (talk) 11:23, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NEVER DO THIS AGAIN! I WILL CALL THE POLICE IF YOU ASK ME FOR MONEY AGAIN

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You are not allowed legally to ask for money if I cannot use Wikipedia! I WILL BE LOOKING AT LEGAL ACTION IF YOU THREATEN ME LIKE THIS AGAIN Return to Monkey Island (talk) 13:33, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What utter nonsense. You have access to this talk page solely to contest your block, not to troll. See also WP:NLT. --Yamla (talk) 13:50, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]