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There's a tutorial for adding images to articles - read WP:PIC. The really, really short version is edit the page and replace the generic image with the name of your image (say Mermcover.jpg) where it says IMG= in the text. That will put the picture in the infobox at the side. Hope that helps. If you haven't done so already, read through the introduction at Help:Contents/Getting_started Delicious carbuncle (talk) 22:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]I've replied to you on my talk page, but just wanted to mention that with the : to indent, don't put quotes around them, just type one colon for each level of indent you want. It's not smart enough to maintain the indent which is why most people tend to write in single paragraphs (or you can just add colons at the start of every paragraph). Regards. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 02:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC) |- |} |}
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My apologies in advance
[edit]There are now enough reliable sources for a new section on Bellinghaus' various disputes with Monroe fans and collectors, so I have started one. I'm not sure that what I have added will be allowed to stay, based on a very aggressive enforcement of WP:BLP for that particular article, but it is properly sourced and, I like to think, fairly neutral. I have deliberately omitted mention of the attack website and of the restraining orders even though they are mentioned in reliable sources.
I know you will as usual be blamed for this, so let me apologise in advance. The article was too one-sided and self-promotional for me to let it stand as it was. Sorry. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hi DC - I like what you did - but looks like again its all been toned down. Never mind. What really needs changing on his site is the bit about his "debunking the Travilla Exhibition". He absolutely did not get the exhibition shut down nor did he debunk it at all. He just says he did - very loudly. This is a genuine exhibition of genuine, historical articles of clothing designed by Travilla. Mark thinks everything, except his own stuff, is "fake". It is totally inaccurate to say he debunked the exhibition. It has just started in a new location. The original one that was shut down only to do with an issue to do with the Hilton wanting full and sole rights to the exhibition for an entire year, but the Travilla Estate wanted more flexibility, his blogs are chock full of lies and some have made their way to his page.
Restawhile (talk) 06:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Restawhile
- Furthermore, I cannot believe that self-proclaimed journalist Jennifer Dickinson (she has no actual education in this area) is allowed to have her articles sources on the Bellinghaus page as she is clearly one of his business partners and is not a proper or reliable source as anyone can write for the "PR Insider" website, its not a proper journalistic site at all.
Restawhile (talk) 06:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- OK, the article written by J Dickinson is no longer even on line about the Travilla Exhibition so it can definitely be cleaned off the page and anything it supposedly supports should be removed.Restawhile (talk) 06:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Restawhile
Please see WP:DEADREF for what to do with dead links. WP:BLP is strictly enforced on all articles. See WP:BLPN. Sites without editorial oversight, i.e. ones to which anyone can post anything, are not normally suitable as wikipedia references. Ty 07:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Restawhile, I'm trying to move the article towards something that is a little more balanced - please give me some time to get some agreement about the new content before we start looking at the self-sourced puffery. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 11:36, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Study WP:BLP carefully. Do not make defamatory comments about people on wikipedia and link to sources which clearly fail WP:RS.[1] This is a very serious matter. Continuation of this may lead to being blocked. Ty 07:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- I don't really get it, am not much of a Wikipedian, but thanks for fixing the ref to Travilla on the Bellinghaus page. It now reads much more correctly. Restawhile (talk) 07:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
I didn't notice you had so little editing experience, so overlook any harshness here, but we do have very strict policies regarding what can be posted anywhere on wikipedia - articles or talk pages - about living people. Material must come from a reliable source. Feel free to consult with me or any other established editor if you are not sure about this. You may email me if you wish. Please note that I am not interested in off-wikipedia disputes, only that which is relevant to the project. I performed a delete on your last but one edit for privacy reasons. I presume that you would wish this, but let me know if not. Ty 07:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks again Ty. In that case the talk section about Travilla on the Bellinghaus page is due for a good pruning as it is full of dead links to pr-inside articles and now irrelevant "fraudulent speak", which need removing or archiving? That's my interpretation of the Talk Page Guidelines anyway Restawhile (talk) 08:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- You will have to be more specific. I can't see anything that is overtly problematic. See also WP:DEADREF. Ty 09:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Guide to referencing
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I thought you might find it useful to have some information about references (refs) on wikipedia. These are important to validate your writing and inform the reader. Any editor can remove unreferenced material; and unsubstantiated articles may end up getting deleted, so when you add something to an article, it's highly advisable to also include a reference to say where it came from. Referencing may look daunting, but it's easy enough to do. Here's a guide to getting started. If you need any assistance, let me know. -- Ty 05:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
A reference must be accurate, i.e. it must prove the statement in the text. To validate "Mike Brown climbed Everest", it's no good linking to a page about Everest, if Mike Brown isn't mentioned, nor to one on Mike Brown, if it doesn't say that he climbed Everest. You have to link to a source that proves his achievement is true. You must use reliable sources, such as published books, mainstream press, and authorised web sites. Blogs, Myspace, Youtube, fan sites and extreme minority texts are not usually acceptable, nor is original research (e.g. your own unpublished, or self-published, essay or research), or another wikipedia article.
The first thing you have to do is to create a "Notes and references" section (unless it already exists). This goes towards the bottom of the page, below the "See also" section and above the "External links" section. Enter this code:
The next step is to put a reference in the text. Here is the code to do that. It goes at the end of the relevant term, phrase, sentence, or paragraph to which the note refers, and after punctuation such as a full stop, without a space (to prevent separation through line wrap):
Whatever text you put in between these two tags will become visible in the "Notes and references" section as your reference.
Open the edit box for this page, copy the following text (inserting your own text where indicated), paste it at the bottom of the page and save the page:
(End of text to copy and paste.) It should appear like this:
You need to include the information to enable the reader to find your source. For an online newspaper source, it might look like this:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Note the single square brackets around the URL and the article title. The format is:
Make sure there is a space between the URL and the Title. This code results in the URL being hidden and the title showing as a link. Use double apostrophes for the article title (it is quoted text), and two single quote marks either side of the name of the paper (to generate italics). Double square brackets round the name of the paper create an internal link (a wikilink) to the relevant wikipedia article. Apostrophes must go outside the brackets. The date after The Guardian is the date of the newspaper, and the date after "Retrieved on" is the date you accessed the site – useful for searching the web archive in case the link goes dead.
You can use sources which are not online, but which you have found in a library or elsewhere—in which case leave out the information which is not relevant. The newspaper example above would be formatted like this:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Here is an example for a book:
When uploaded, it appears as:
Make sure you put two single quote marks round the title (to generate italics), rather than one double quote mark.
These formats are all acceptable for dates:
You may prefer to use a citation template to compile details of the source. The template goes between the ref tags and you fill out the fields you wish to. Basic templates can be found here: Wikipedia:Template messages/Sources of articles/Citation quick reference
The first time a reference appears in the article, you can give it a simple name in the <ref> code:
The second time you use the same reference in the article, you need only to create a short cut instead of typing it all out again:
You can then use the short cut as many times as you want. Don't forget the /, or it will blank the rest of the article! Some symbols don't work in the ref name, but you'll find out if you use them. You can see multiple use of the same refs in action in the article William Bowyer (artist). There are 3 sources and they are each referenced 3 times. Each statement in the article has a footnote to show what its source is.
The above method is simple and combines references and notes into one section. A refinement is to put the full details of the references in their own section headed "References", while the notes which apply to them appear in a separate section headed "Notes". The notes can be inserted in the main article text in an abbreviated form as seen in Harriet Arbuthnot or in a full form as in Brown Dog affair.
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Ref formatting
[edit]I've placed guide to referencing above. I've formatted your ref on Mark Bellinghaus. See [2]. The mistake was a / at the end of the first ref tag. The / goes at the end of the closing ref tag. You don't need to give the ref a name, unless you are going to use it more than once, in which case it can be used as a short cut, instead of typing the whole ref out again. It doesn't go any harm though. Ty 05:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
- Tyrenius, I think you've confused Restawhile with someone else. That wasn't their edit. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Links to your page
[edit]I gave up on keeping a link to your former page because the discussion was just becoming too toxic for me. I was going to restore the user box with a link to your main page, but then I saw that you had deleted it from my talk page. If you'd prefer that there's no mention of you at all, I'll just leave it as is. Thanks for your words of support. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
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