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Change the title of "The Flower of Prison"

Hello Random86. Before, I don't want to change this title, but Ejan10 (talk • contribs), he said he is from Munhwa Broadcasting Corporation and he demand to me to change this title to "Flower of Prison" follow their English website (you can visite my talk page to see the complete message). So I thought this drama is made by MBC, I want to recpect all information follow their website, in Korean also in English. After read this message, please revert your edits, or you can make a conversation with Ejan10 (talk) to explain to them. Thank you. Kenny (talk) 19:04, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Kenny htv, I saw the message before I moved the page back. MBC can't control what the Wikipedia article title should be. No reliable English-language news sources (that I could find) use the title Flower of Prison, so that shouldn't be the Wikipedia title per WP:COMMONNAME. Random86 (talk) 19:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I have understood, I think I will use your reply to explain to them. Kenny (talk) 19:46, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Mr.Mr. (song)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

GAN (again)

So sorry for bothering you again, but could you mind addressing the issues at Talk:Party (Girls' Generation song)/GA1. I guess I'll be very busy until August due to overlapping deadlines. Many thank you! Simon (talk) 13:11, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't mind. I will do it soon. :) Random86 (talk) 23:17, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Piano Man (EP)

On 14 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Piano Man (EP), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that boy band member Gongchan plays the pianist in the music video for Mamamoo's "Piano Man"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Piano Man (EP). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Piano Man (EP)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Jung Mina

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK Galaxy Supernova

On 17 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Galaxy Supernova, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Galaxy Supernova. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Galaxy Supernova), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 13:41, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Wikicommons Uploaded Picture

Hey!

Just wondering: Is this good enough description for the Wikipedia Commons when it comes to uploading my own photos to use for a page?

Image: Commons Image
Usage: Pickering GO Station

Thanks, hope all is well with you. I just wanted to ask you as this is my first time uploading a picture to the Wikipedia Commons.

Sincerely,

Tibbydibby (talk) 18:33, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Tibbydibby: The description is fine, but usually "own work" is put in the source field. Random86 (talk) 19:41, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Random86: Thank you so very much! :) Tibbydibby (talk) 19:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Interlanguage link

Hi Random, I'm Kenny. Follow your information, I used the interlanguage links for my edits but someone has still replaced by :ko:, such as SarahLovesGenting (talk) did on The Master of Revenge. Can you revert his/her edits? I don't have the capacity to revert 2 consecutive edits. Thank you. Kenny (talk) 19:31, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Kenny htv: Is that the only article that was changed? Random86 (talk) 19:39, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Random86: I don't know that it is the only article or not, because that is the only article which has been changed in my watchlist, I don't know another page. Thank for your help. Kenny (talk) 20:35, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Pink Funky

On 18 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pink Funky, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in the music video for Mamamoo's "Um Oh Ah Yeh", three members dress as men and wear wigs, beards, and prosthetic makeup? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pink Funky. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pink Funky), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Season of Glass (EP)

On 19 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Season of Glass (EP), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after South Korean girl group GFriend debuted with Season of Glass, a Billboard columnist said they were "leading a new wave of female acts with a classic innocent look"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Season of Glass (EP). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Season of Glass (EP)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Catch Me If You Can (Girls' Generation song)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Hello (Mamamoo EP)

On 24 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hello (Mamamoo EP), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the music video for Mamamoo's "Mr. Ambiguous" includes a hidden camera prank? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hello (Mamamoo EP). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hello (Mamamoo EP)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi Random, thanks for all your reviews on recent pages, Jung Mina, Smacksoft and Bo Whang. WikiProject Women in Red are celebrating Women in Entertainment in June, and I wanted to get as many contributions in, as possible, for our Korea Project! I have one more artist to add before the deadline - but I've been working on it since 2014....hahaha! It's saved there with about 10 other articles I've started! I find if I have a deadline, I work faster! The Dean page was due to his SXSW appearance and I knew Americans would be looking on WP for him....but it had it's shortcomings due to haste. Thanks for catching the right Japan earthquake - I knew the one I chose did not mention a tsunami, but I did find the correct nuclear disaster. There were so many little bits and pieces to research for the band and leader - I thought I would go back later and tweak it, but all your corrections made it right! I remembered late the page styling Yannaynay had converted Dean's page to - and went back to change these last two. I do see how confusing it gets to make the conversion now and appreciate her efforts more. Even I had written the band's page and confused the albums, when moving them up page. Thanks for the save there, too, Random!

What did Hillary Clinton say, long ago, about children's education - "it takes a village"? I'm so happy to be part of this village with the editors working on Korean pages. I think each of us has a little part to do. Thank you for all your administrative actions and outreach to the larger WP world with your DYK nominations - that takes a lot of time and effort, and it shows other projects that WE ARE HERE!  :)--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 19:22, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

		All-Around Amazing Barnstar
		Just one of the many Barnstars you deserve for all your endless contributions to WikiProject Korea! Heartfelt thanks! Bonnielou2013 (talk) 19:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Aww, thanks Bonnielou2013! Your articles are well-written and sourced, so it's not hard to fix them up for DYK. (I'm not an administrator, by the way, and anyone can contribute to DYK.) It's great to have more articles on non-idol Korean musicians. Keep up the good work! Random86 (talk) 23:07, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

:)--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 16:59, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Barnstar for you! + GANs

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For all the hard work on Korea-related articles and for reviewing GANs for me. I really appreciate what you have been doing, and keep on that solid work! — Simon (talk) 09:05, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

By the way, can you address the comments at Talk:Mr.Mr. (EP)/GA1 and Talk:4 Walls/GA1 please? Lol my schedule is not declining but rather increasing. Simon (talk) 09:05, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

I think TerryAlex is planning on working on Mr.Mr., but I will work on 4 Walls soon. Random86 (talk) 09:36, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Hi Random, can you please help with Mr.Mr as well. I'm having very limited access to the Internet these recent days, thought I could be back to Wikipedia by now, but seems like it will take me until early July or so. Thanks!--TerryAlex (talk) 15:13, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I can do it. :) Random86 (talk) 21:41, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Melting (album)

On 29 June 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Melting (album), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mamamoo's Melting was described as "heralding the Korean quartet's rise to the top ranks of the girl group hunger games"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Melting (album). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Melting (album)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:19, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted

Hi Random86, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Nakon 04:40, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Question on possible project submission

Hi Random Could you glance at Mari Kim, new page and see if she qualifies for the Women in Entertainment June list - as an animation director? I didn't know for sure, but rushed to get it up by June finish. Thanks.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 19:46, 1 July 2016 (UTC) P.S. Esna was excellent, I didn't know her!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 20:05, 1 July 2016 (UTC) Update, question might be moot, the Women in Red searchBot just logged it, so I guess the Project will look it over and make a decision, it scored 112, whatever that means to them. This is so much fun!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 22:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Bonnielou2013 I don't think she qualifies as an entertainer – that means singer, dancer, actor, comedian, etc. Thanks for writing this article, though! I always liked 2NE1's "Hate You" and it's great to read about who was behind the animation. Random86 (talk) 04:10, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Random Kim's page was added by project editors. I thought there was a chance as I saw filmmakers on the list! (and it was near perfection after you tweaked it - thanks so much! I should have warned you about the Nara thing - I wouldn't have known if I hadn't met him at the exhibit!)

I know you work with our KoreaProject much closer than I do, so wanted to share the data for our participation in the Celebrating Women in Entertainment project for the month! I looked through the list and tried to catch all of ours. If you wanted to double-check, you may want to share the results with our KoreaProject!

• Added to Celebrating Women in Entertainment project: June 1 - Li, Ji-hye Kanghuitari, June 1 - Jung, Mina Kanghuitari, June 7 - Choi Yoon-so Kenny htv, June 22 - Kim Min-hee (actress, born 1982) (improved page) various, June 22 - Whang Bo-ryung Kanghuitari, June 25 - Esna (singer) Random86. June 29 - Park Nam-ok Megalibrarygirl, June 30 - Mari Kim bonnielou2013

• Pages created in time period and not added to project: June 15 - Lee Soo-min (actress) Kanghuitari, June 21 - Kim Min-hee (actress, born 1972) Kanghuitari, June 30 - Seo Jeong-yeon Kanghuitari

• Featured in DYK: May 29 -Kim Sae-ron, May 29 - Got a Boy (song),,May 30 - Paparazzi (Girls' Generation song), June 5 - Snowflake (EP), June 6 - Flower Bud (EP), June 10 - Mr.Mr. (song), June 16 - Jung Mina, June 17 - Galaxy Supernova, June 18 - Pink Funky, June 20 - Catch Me If You, June 19 - Season of Glass (EP), June 20 - Can (Girls' Generation song), June 24 - Hello (Mamamoo EP)

Do you think we should add the 3 pages that have not been added? These are only the ones I know of, maybe you know more? I will continue to work on those 3 and you could look them over later. None of them has been assessed yet.

I fortunately found out about this project early, when the Jung Mina page that we both worked on was added in early June. I am glad the KoreaProject was able to contribute so much, especially all your DYK submissions!!! I don't look on WP for other projects - unless they are announced on the WP headliner. So in the future, if you see any worthy projects that our team should participate in, please let me know. I love working under pressure - I think more gets done! Thanks teamy!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 17:39, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Bonnielou2013 Glad it was added! I wasn't sure how broad the scope was. You should add the three missing articles; they definitely meet the criteria (I didn't see rules about minimum length or anything). I will take a look and see if anything else is missing. Random86 (talk) 21:05, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Random, I'm away from computer now, but adjunct at Catholic University is listed at Mari's website [1] and on her FB [2] - seems more reliable than newspaper, or it could be old information.--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 22:56, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Bonnielou2013 Mari's website says "In addition to her art practice, she serves as a lecturer for the Catholic University in Seoul and an adjunct professor at Chungkang College of Cultural Industries in Icheon City." But, the work history list says "Adjunct Professor for Catholic University, Korea". That's why it's confusing. Random86 (talk) 23:20, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Random, Yes it is confusing, I had seen the top before but chose to go with her agent Shine's resume - along with work history at her website and what I showed you on FB (although the dates for one say since 2007 and the other says since 2012). I believe that she probably taught at both schools, and I think she may be using the English words "Instructor" and "Adjunct" interchangeably, although the later "adjunct professor" is usually meant for a college or university, which the Catholic University is; the other Chungkang seems to be more of a tech school, which would adhere to "instructor". Either way, your edit holds you responsible, tehehe....as they say in Korea! Seriously, we'll probably find out definitively later, it's fine either way, (six of one, half a dozen).--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 00:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Bonnielou2013 Feel free to change it back if you think it was more correct before. :) Random86 (talk) 01:53, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Party (Girls' Generation song)

On 4 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Party (Girls' Generation song), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the lyrics of Girls' Generation's song "Party" mention drinking lemon soju, mojito and tequila? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Party (Girls' Generation song). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Party (Girls' Generation song)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Smacksoft

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:19, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Shinee discography

Hey I'm too lazy to create an account for this site but I've still edited Shinee's discography (and some other Shinee related sites) as good as I could so I was wondering if you could look over it? I tried to add reliable sources and corrected the sales etc. because the sales pre-2010 were incorrect with no reliable source at all. I took Girl's Generation's site as draft because it's a featured list. Also I archived many links so hopefully it will be useful in the future. I wanted to re-write the lead section too but I'm not confident in my English skills so I'll leave that part to someone else. Anyway I see you Kpop articles quite often and just wanted to ask for your opinion, if there is more I can do to help please tell me. The only thing I kinda gave up is to find reliabe sources for the Japanese sales, it's just too frustrating. --2A02:8108:1440:2870:8972:C78B:2EA3:1F66 (talk) 22:40, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Shinee discography is on my watchlist, so I noticed the good work you've been doing. It already looks better than most K-pop discographies on Wikipedia. T-ara discography is also a featured list, so you might get some ideas from that as well. I haven't been able to find reliable sources for Oricon weekly sales either, although I think they can be accessed with a subscription to Oricon. Random86 (talk) 06:25, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Notification of RFC for Korean MOS in regard to romanization

Hello! You contributed in some capacity to at least one of the recent discussions concerning romanization of Korean for historical topics. Should we use McCune-Reischauer or Revised for topics relating to pre-1945 Korea? If you are inclined, please contribute here. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

2NE1 member profiles

Hi random86 CL was placed as the leader, main rapper, and lead vocalist of 2NE1 (in kpop main is higher than lead) if you need proof type in a search engine 2NE1 miss kpop it will take to a website that has all the info on them it also has info on the other kpop stars to KingChanel (talk) 08:06, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

KingChanel, that is not a reliable source. Random86 (talk) 12:17, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Actually for kpop it is I know this because I have been a fan for 4 years and this information is on many other websites as well, and considering this is Wikipedia it's nexactly reliableb source it self now is it KingChanel (talk) 14:45, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

The information about 2NE1 is on many other websites is what I meant KingChanel (talk) 14:46, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

If you need a reliabel source go to her record labels website KingChanel (talk) 14:52, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Whang Bo-ryung

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:34, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Kim yoo jung's pictures

First i meant saw** before And hi Umm... I don't think that her photo was copyrighted I have put the name of the website and the owner and no problems... please if it was tell me how can I find a noncopyrighted photo Kimkakim (talk) 21:32, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi I really need your help please contact me Kimkakim (talk) 14:39, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for 4 Walls

On 9 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 4 Walls, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 4 Walls was the first release by girl group f(x) since member Sulli left the group? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/4 Walls. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 4 Walls), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Esna (singer)

On 10 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Esna (singer), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Esna was one of the songwriters of "Some", which topped the Billboard Korea K-Pop Hot 100 for six weeks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Esna (singer). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Esna (singer)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting our editathons

	Thank you for contributing to our June 2016 editathons There were over 350 articles on Women in Entertainment, 55 on Jewish Women's History and 50 on Women in LGBTQ Host: Women in Red June 2016 #wikiwomeninred Our next event: Women in Halls of Fame

--Ipigott (talk) 12:32, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for Mr.Mr. (EP)

On 11 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mr.Mr. (EP), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the EP Mr.Mr. by Girls' Generation was described as "expand[ing] their musical reach" and "experimenting into new sonic territory"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mr.Mr. (EP). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Mr.Mr. (EP)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Mari Kim

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:05, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Park Cho-rong

Please don't randomly call other people disruptive. I was deleting the redirect to make way for a page that was already reviewed and accepted in AfC. Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 23:50, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Tseung Kwan O You didn't need to remove the redirect in a separate edit, or you could have left a more informative edit summary such as "making way for new article". How was I supposed to know what you were doing? Park Cho-rong was previously deleted at AFD, and I've seen other editors remove redirects for no reason, creating a blank page. That's why it looked disruptive. Random86 (talk) 23:59, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

This is all just a misunderstanding. Anyway, now that I've clarified the situation, I guess we can put this behind us. Tseung Kwan O Let's talk 00:03, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

The Miracle

Hey I was wondering what you think about the page for The Miracle? Someone keeps adding it back to a page I'm working on and I simply see no reason why this article even has a page? It was just a silly 'film' done for some year-end shows. It had no impact or whatever. I was wondering if it could be nominated for deletion? I'm new here so I still need to get familiar with all the rules. Also I see how many Kpop articles have listed all shows the group ever went on and I seriously doubt it's ok to list stuff like that. I've removed these on some pages but fans obviously add them back all the time. --Thebestwinter (talk) 16:25, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thebestwinter, films are considered notable if they have "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", per WP:NFILM. For The Miracle (2013 film), this certainly didn't happen with English-language sources, so it depends on what kind of coverage it got in Korea. Merging with SBS Gayo Daejeon is also an option.

It's currently a losing battle trying to keep television appearance lists trimmed down, because most people editing K-entertainment articles want to have a complete list. This was discussed a lot in 2014–2015, and the rough consensus was to only include shows where the group/person was part of the main cast. However, this didn't last long as you can see, probably because not enough editors were involved in the discussions. The only thing that hasn't been tried yet is a request for comment, which might not be a bad idea. In my experience, it's very hard to get regular Wikipedia editors involved. Random86 (talk) 01:17, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Korea Music Copyright Association

On 19 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Korea Music Copyright Association, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Korea Music Copyright Association's deal with JASRAC was called a "milestone in Japan-Korean musical relations" because Japanese music had been previously banned in South Korea? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Korea Music Copyright Association. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Korea Music Copyright Association), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Questions on proper discography

Hi Random! Re: my recent DEAN updates. If a song was recorded prior to an album - (Heize's "Shut Up & Groove") but then is recorded on an album And July - does the original song become part of the album history and need to be changed from a "non-album" entry? 2nd question - I thought mvs on the Discography were only documented for the lead artist. However, after seeing that someone charted DEAN's featured on accomplishment with Taeyeon as an MV on his Discography - I added both his "featured on" mvs with Heize. I think only his lead artist mvs should be charted under his name - am I correct? I have a 3rd question, but it is late and I can't remember it. Later....thank you!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 07:46, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Bonnielou2013 From what I can tell, "Shut Up & Groove" was a pre-release single from And July, so it's not a "non-album single". It was always part of the album, but was released earlier. For the music videos, you can look at Sia discography to see an example of this. They are in a separate table there, but one table is probably fine too. I hope that answers your questions! Random86 (talk) 06:12, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

from sohyunssi

hi. its not kwon so hyun, its kim so hyun. I just asking why i can't edit biography our sohyun on wikipedia. Everyone can do it, i love her so much. I was always editing bcs i think ksh wikipedia its kinda suck and i want to newbie fan of her know more about her. I am fan of her since 2010 and i think its good if i can share something like that. sorry for bad english, hv a nice day :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sohyunssi (talk • contribs) 04:05, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Sohyunssi I put the wrong link by mistake. What you are doing wrong is restoring an old version of the page, which had been subsequently cleaned and copyedited by multiple editors. Your version has incorrect formatting, bad English, and factual errors. You can edit the page, but don't revert back to the old version again or I will have to report you for edit warring. Random86 (talk) 04:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

am i? sorry for misunderstanding. I will not revert back to the old version again. hv a nice day~— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sohyunssi (talk • contribs) 04:46, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

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