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Question from Joewilson55555 on User:Joewilson55555/sandbox (21:47, 19 August 2024)

Hi! I hope you're well. I am new to Wikipedia and I'd like to know if there's any coding needed and if so, how to do it. Thanks! --Joewilson55555 (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Joewilson55555, it depends on your knowledge of coding - for example, see mw:How to become a MediaWiki hacker. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:47, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

What's Verifiable & Reliable sources and what's not?

Hi! I have a very confliction feelling about Verifiability & Reliable sources. I know that that social media/User-generated content, aren't reliable or verifiabile sources and are mostly "unacceptable" (even though that's Hipocrisia and Wikipedia itself are a User-generated content website). Can you explain me, how some Web series/shows such as "The Amazing Digital Circus", "Hazbin Hotel" or "Lackadaisy" and it's Wikipedia articles are even acceptable. The Web series and shows that (originally) appeared on a "User-generated content" platform that would be by Policies and guidelines of Wikipedia have been "unacceptable". Does those topics are exeption to the principle?

77.65.108.117 (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

77.65.108.117, because the articles are about the topics - the sources they use should not be user-generated. Wikipedia is also considered an unreliable source, and shouldn't be used as a reference. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Bare refs and Citation bot

Try to support you on "Changed bare reference to CS1/2" with Citation bot. Unfortunately the bot is currently experiencing a high load (Toolforge). Grimes2 (talk) 11:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Grimes2, is REFILL working? — Qwerfjkltalk 11:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, but it has no batch mode (I think). reFill produces many errors, for example usurped urls. You have to check every edit. reFill is also on toolforge, so they should have the same high load problem. Grimes2 (talk) 11:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Al3xaSp3aker

Page: SpongeBob_SquarePants_(film_series)

Diff: Special:Diff/1236819355

Why is it saying I added in a URL?

Al3xaSp3aker (talk) 20:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Al3xaSp3aker, it's saying you added a bare url, because you haven't provided a title for the URL. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Oh. Ok Al3xaSp3aker (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Sign up for the language community meeting on August 30th, 15:00 UTC

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BareURLinline.js Adding " /" to br tags

Hey,

Just heads up, BareURLinline.js added space and a forward slash to br tags on Ivanhoé Cambridge Vasusrir429 (talk) 00:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Vasusrir429, yes, this is because some syntax highlighters don't recognise <br>. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Good news! The trailing slash is no longer needed. See an update to the syntax highlighter documentation. It has changed my life! – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Jonesey95, ah, good to know, thanks. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:17, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

MassXFD bug

Hi Qwerfjkl! I am back from vacation; CFD is my tomorrow project. But I am here to report a minor bug with MassXFD: {{subst:RFDNote}} does not contain a signature, so my message at Special:Diff/1241029025 was unsigned. Thanks for all the work you do with scripts, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 08:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

HouseBlaster,  Fixed. I did actually notice this, I just forgot to fix whilst I was fixing this bug. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:22, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Haha. Thank you so much, as always :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

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Qwerfjkl (bot) – Haroldwinstanley

Page: Peter_Pan_&_Wendy

Diff: Special:Diff/1238452595

Apparently there is a titling issue on the page I edited which has allegedly caused referencing problems, but I can’t find what the problem is…

Comment/question:

Haroldwinstanley (talk) 19:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Haroldwinstanley, you added
<ref>{{cite web|url= https://www.taurusworldstuntawards.com/awards/winners-and-nominees-2024/#:~:text=Peter%20Pan%20%26%20Wendy,-Peter%20Pan%2C%20Wendy&text=The%20stunts%2C%20technical%20stunt%20rigging,actors%20to%20create%20the%20illusion.|accessdate=August 04, 2024}}</ref>

Which is missing |title=. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:33, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Vycl1994

Page: Trevor_Richards_(baseball)

Diff: Special:Diff/1242680250

Qwerfjkl states that there is a bare url in the diff, but I replaced one source with another, more reliable one. Neither the original source or the more reliable source were bare URLs Vycl1994 (talk) 05:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Vycl1994 (talk) 05:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Vycl1994, the new source is missing |title=, as was the old one. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – OpalYosutebito

Page: Favre-Leuba

Diff: Special:Diff/1241743868

Comment/question: the bot thought that I made a CS1 error (more specifically, a bare URL), but to my knowledge, the edit had no bare URLs...

OpalYosutebito (talk) 03:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

OpalYosutebito,
<ref name="watchgecko">{{cite web|url=https://www.watchgecko.com/blogs/magazine/a-watch-brand-that-has-been-conquering-frontiers-for-283-years|website=WatchGecko|last=Quinn|first=Jon}}</ref>

is missing |title=. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Oh. I see now. I think I was just sleep deprived when I read the diff, lol - OpalYosutebito (talk) 11:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Bare URL tags

These aren't very useful. The time spent doing this would be better spent using WP:REFILL to fix the problem rather than telling other people to do it. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Ianmacm, I also manually fill out bare URLs, typically PDFs that can't be done with refill. It takes no time at all for me because I'm using a script. I think it's more helpful to have an accurate count of the number of bare URLs and to have them flagged in articles so editors know to fix them. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but your reply didn't make any sense at all. All you did was reword his statement of the problem you're creating, except you actually said you think it's inexplicably better to count problems than to fix them. In other words, WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. WP:SOFIXIT. Stop running a script to tag bare URLs instead of simply running the script that fixes them. Why on earth would anyone do that? That's a rhetorical question. I've lost track of how many times I'm seeing this happen, where somebody immediately just follows you with WP:REFILL like I just did.[2] I see you're one of those super cool bot makers, and I've seen another bot that can automate citation formatting, so can you just have a bot scan for bare urls and another try to fix them? Thank you very much. — Smuckola(talk) 20:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Smuckola, the bot for fixing bare URLs is Citation bot (and it is limited in what it fixes). The problem with almost all automated means of filling out bare URLs is that they are inaccurate, often very badly, because they abuse metadata fields. PDFs typically can't be filled at all. So whilst I could run something like ReFill automatically, it would likely cause more problems than it fixed. This means that at best I can fill bare URLs semi-automatically, which is what I do - alongside tagging them, which is much easier to do. I've lost track of how many times I'm seeing this happen, where somebody immediately just follows you with WP:REFILL like I just did. That's the whole point, to draw attention to this issue. Qwerfjkltalk 09:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Any way at least the tagging of bare URLs could be made by a bot? Right now you've been flooding watchlists for at least a few days. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Fixing bare URLs is a job and appreciated. Some possible old threads of interest, you may already know about:
-- GreenC 20:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
If you are interested, take a look at Help:VisualEditor#Editing_references. Hope it helps. AmritR012 (talk) 17:41, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
1234qwer1234qwer4, well, I think at least part of the point of tagging is to draw attention to the issue. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Bare URL; tool to convert to citation format?

I used to use Toolforge, but that has stopped working. Do you know a tool I could use? Many thanks for any thoughts Asto77 (talk) 13:24, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Asto77, what do you mean by "Toolforge"? Toolforge hosts a variety of tools. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
This is the one I used to use; https://refill.toolforge.org/
Best wishes Asto77 (talk) 20:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
now at https://refill.toolforge.org/ng/. best wishes Asto77 (talk) 00:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

MassCfDS.js summary includes an unneeded closing parenthesis

Could you please remove the unneeded closing parenthesis at line 913 of User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massCFDS.js? It should say

                const categorySummary = `Tagging category for [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Speedy|speedy ${nominationType ? nominationType : 'nomination'}]]` + advSummary;

instead. GTrang (talk) 19:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

GTrang,  Done. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Titan 762 (19:34, 30 August 2024)

Hey there! I'm Titan, I just created an account to edit a page on the USS Columbus Submarine since I saw some info missing. Should I include a source or anyhting for the ship's motto that I added or anything? Thanks. --Titan 762 (talk) 19:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Titan 762, in general you should include the source for any information you add, and avoid adding original research. Where did you get the information from? — Qwerfjkltalk 20:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm a Submariner aboard the USS Columbus. Our ship's motto is "All Seas Are Navigable," I just wanted to update the info on the page since I take pride in my ship! 68.10.203.197 (talk) 16:52, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
@Titan 762, that is a conflict of interest - see this section on how to disclose it. Do you have any external references for the motto? — Qwerfjkltalk 17:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Yes, there are a couple of references online. Here's a link to one example: https://www.seaforces.org/usnships/ssn/SSN-762-USS-Columbus.htm Titan 762 (talk) 18:30, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
I apologize for making this a complicated issue, I would like to fix it if possible but am unsure of how to go about adding a COI statement and adding sources. Would you be willing to help me with that? Titan 762 (talk) 18:44, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
I've added that as a reference. See WP:DISCLOSE on how to disclose the COI - I can help if you have difficulty with it. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Domart2013 (05:26, 1 September 2024)

Hello how can I start? --Domart2013 (talk) 05:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Domart2013, see Wikipedia:Task Center for a list of things you can do. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kasalinamutebi (09:34, 1 September 2024)

I want to write about some one not to edit, how do I start --Kasalinamutebi (talk) 09:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 09:45, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Announcing the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee

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The scrutineers have finished reviewing the vote and the Elections Committee have certified the results for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) special election.

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Wikidata weekly summary #643

Question from Jglennthepunisher (17:58, 2 September 2024)

Hello, I am trying to create a new page for an up and coming local artist. Where do I begin? --Jglennthepunisher (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

First of all, check that the artist passes WP:NARTIST. If they don't, they probably shouldn't have a Wikipedia article (unless they alternatively pass WP:GNG). — Qwerfjkltalk 18:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Adina2244 (22:55, 30 August 2024)

Hello. I need help and guidance for certain tasks. --Adina2244 (talk) 22:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Adina2244, what tasks? — Qwerfjkltalk 09:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Tasks like what images are considered eligible for upload on Wiki Commons? And if I dont have the license of certain images but have permission from the main profile, how do i justify the upload of that image? Adina2244 (talk) 20:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
@Adina2244, from Wikipedia:Uploading images:
Allowed copyright statuses include (in descending order of desirability):
  • Public domain (expired copyright or public from inception) (see here)
  • One of various licenses listed in this Wikipedia resource page. The only Creative Commons licenses allowed are CC BY-SA (BY = Attribution and SA = Share Alike) and CC BY (Attribution only). Creative Commons licenses such as CC BY-NC-ND (NC = No commercial use, ND = No derivations or adaptations) are not permitted as such licenses do not allow totally free, credited use.

If you are unsure of the image license, you can't upload it. Does this answer you questions? Qwerfjkltalk 08:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 4 September 2024

Question from Jeevan prakash N (08:02, 4 September 2024)

Hi I am Jeevan Prakash N kannada film editor more than 25 movies in kannada film 2 Tamil movie 1 telugu movies I work --Jeevan prakash N (talk) 08:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

You cannot write an article about yourself. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Var nowiki

Template:Var nowiki has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. BrandonXLF (talk) 05:40, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Question from Asiabeka (11:07, 6 September 2024)

Do I get to publish my own information or I will only have to do edits --Asiabeka (talk) 11:07, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Asiabeka, are you referring to writing an article about yourself, and if so, is there an existing article? — Qwerfjkltalk 12:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Chemboxmaker

Hi. Your script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/chemboxmaker.js points to the following github directory:

That no longer exits, although it has been archived:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230602170004/https://alyw234237.github.io/wiki-drugbox-chembox-maker/

The above archived link appears to be fully functional. I would appreciate if you would update chemboxmaker.js so that it points to a working link. Thanks. Boghog (talk) 05:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Boghog, Done. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:39, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! Boghog (talk) 11:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)