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An article on this film, at the correctly capitalised title, has previously been deleted (and twice recreated and G-4 speedied, all in a few days in January). It now appears to be sourced adequately.

Could an admin check whether this article is the same as that which was deleted?

If the same, then it calls for speedy deletion G4 (and perhaps this version of the title to be salted).

If it's different, it needs to be moved to No Woman, currently salted.

Thanks for your help. PamD 22:24, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD:Reference 2 is new, and is an actual review, so this is not a G4 speedy-deletion. On the other hand, it seems that this site, Rogue Cinema, will review anything they are sent, which rather reduces its value as an indicator of notability. I don't think it passes the WP:GNG, and it is certainly far short of the standard of WP:NFILM, so I am not prepared to move it to the proper title. In any case, when the article has been deleted at AfD and salted, the author should not just post it again with a different title.
What I will do is, userfy it and advise the author to find better references if he can and apply to WP:DRV when he thinks it is ready. Pinging MichaelQSchmidt for comment. JohnCD (talk) 23:01, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@JohnCD: Thanks. It's always a problem for non-admins, not being able to see the previous version which the AfD discussed! And film notability isn't my speciality - I just sort stubs and in a case like this try to move it to the correct title ... and then find that it's got a back story. PamD 23:27, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • JohnCD and PamD: I took the time to open THIS temporary workspace to address article issues. The common-ness of the Persinan term "زن ممنوع" makes searching for sources a bit difficult for me as an editor. But Privatesoul222 (or either of you) is quite welcome to cut-n-paste my improved version to this userspace, and no... it is not the same as that version which AFD-deleted or CSD-speedied. But it needs far better sourcing for the 3-minute film to meet WP:NF. Though the topic is the same, the article is different and a DRV is not required, as that original deletion was not flawed. Schmidt, Michael Q. 00:59, 19 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]