User talk:Presbitow

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Speedy deletion nomination of Super Bowl LIII

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A tag has been placed on Super Bowl LIII, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as at articles for deletion. Under the specified criteria, where an article has substantially identical content to that of an article deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

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Proposed deletion of Super Bowl LIII

The article Super Bowl LIII has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

WP:BALL

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. m'encarta (t) 03:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do not create, add, maintain, insert, or restore hoaxes on Wikipedia. Hoaxes will be caught and marked for deletion shortly after they are created. If you are interested in how accurate Wikipedia is, a more constructive test method would be to try to find inaccurate statements that are already in Wikipedia – and then to correct them if possible. Please do not disrupt Wikipedia. Feel free to take a look at the five pillars of Wikipedia to learn more about this project and how you can contribute constructively. Thank you. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Really? JAX vs. CAR? Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is a future Super Bowl a "hoax"? The results were experimental, but no harm intended. Presbitow (talk) 04:17, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you wish to experiment, please use the sandbox, not in an actual article. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And I've deleted Talk:Zzyzx11 (I'm sure you meant User talk:Zzyzx11) and Presbitow (can't redirect from main space to user space). Drmies (talk) 05:36, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
fine, as long as they get the comments. 05:43, 11 February 2014 (UTC)≤

And I reverted this strange edit on Super Bowl LII, where you changed the title of a reference. No, the comments are gone (page was deleted). Here's what you said: "*Please don't take the Super Bowl stuff personally. The article was proposed for deletion but someone jumped the gun.

--Presbitow

Please don't be rude. It would be better to explain the forum thing in response as opposed to removing comments Presbitow (talk)

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RfA

There's really no chance of your RfA succeeding given your lack of experience. I suggest removing it before the inevitable snowball close. -- John Reaves 19:53, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Presbitow! Just stopping by to let you know that I've closed your RFA. I hope that this won't discourage you from becoming an even more productive editor in the future. It's a learning experience, always, and the RFA does not reflect the work you've done so far but rather your suitability to be an administrator at this point in time. Keep expanding your horizons and good luck. I can appreciate your willingness to try new things, so you'll feel right at home here. Let me or any experienced editor if you have any questions. The people at the Help Desk and the Tea House would be happy to help as well. Happy editing! Tyrol5 [Talk] 20:29, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Tyrol5: I'm not really surprised, but it's just another learning experience for me. I will try again in a couple of months. Presbitow (talk) 21:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you not understand the meaning of a closed discussion? A closed discussion isn't supposed to be modified, and those people who added their comments after Tyrol5 closed it were wrong for doing so, not I for reverting it. I'm going to revert it again; please do not re-add the comments. T C N7JM 21:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@TCN7JM: The comments were added right after the close, possibly an edit conflict. I suggest you leave them there since it would not be fair to the people who gave their input. Presbitow (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

February 2014

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Talk:Super Bowl 52, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion and appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. United States Man (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Presbitow! Thank you for your contributions. I am TheOriginalSoni and I have been editing Wikipedia for some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{help me}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Presbitow (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

as far as I know, I was blocked for trying to reverse the deletion an article I posted days ago. Given that I have used a few different networks, I assume someone used one of those networks to vandalize Wikipedia and apparently I got linked by IP address. If I am unable to salvage this username then I'll simply have to go back to editing without a username as making another username will likely have the same results. The blocking user should at least tell me the edits in question so I can explain whether they were mine or really someone else's. Presbitow (talk) 9:13 pm, Yesterday (UTC+0)

Decline reason:

This account is blocked as a confirmed sockpuppet of User:AS92813; you will need to appeal your block through that account. Threats to evade your block if it is not lifted are also extremely unconducive to unblocking. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:18, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

From what I can see, you were not blocked because you made some edits via an IP. Instead, looking at the technical evidence, it appears that the block is a direct result of you editing via numerous named accounts. I assume User:InstantWikificaton is yours? Tiptoety ^talk 21:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

no, my last edits were Sunday afternoon when I cited an edit to super Bowl LIII on the Drv page. The username in question was created before this block was initiated, so I had no reason to make another username. I only became aware of being blocked when I checked for further comments on DRV. The username you cited also voted in the other deletion discussion, an article I really don't care about.

The user who cited me on the investigation page cited my knowledge of the site despite editing for only 5 days. To that, I've been editing by IP for a while and only recently created this now with the intent of establishing an edit history. Presbitow (talk) 22:56, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The question I have is: did the vandal accounts come from the same exact IP or just the same range? If it is the same range then there is little I can do about bad faith editors using our network. I edit using an I phone and often get assigned 174.xx.xx.xx IP address.

@Yunshui: I'm not making any threats to anyone. I was just saying that there is no point in creating an account if it's going to get blocked out of suspicion it belongs to someone else. Even if AS92813 belonged to me, there is no reason to block it given there is no vandalism in its edit history. Presbitow (talk) 14:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"I'll simply have to go back to editing without a username" = "I will edit while logged out to evade this block". I really don't see how that could be taken any other way. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:44, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Yunshui: if you are willing to address the issue then there would be no reason to "evade the block" (which you'd take personally it seems) I hardly had any problems editing by IP, so really I don't have much to lose at this point. Presbitow (talk) 15:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't take anything personally on Wikipedia; after all, no-one here (bar a couple of other admins and the WMF) knows who I actually am. However, editing as an IP to get around a blocked account is not allowed, pure and simple. The block applies to you as an individual person, not to your account. If you - the person - edit Wikipedia, under any account or IP address, you are in violation of the block. I'm not sure what you mean by "if you are willing to address the issue", could you clarify, please? Yunshui 雲‍水 15:20, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Yunshui: if this username is blocked because somebody is convinced it belongs to another account, is there anyway to resolve it. After all, the blocker is convinced both this username logged in from the same IP, right? Presbitow (talk) 15:38, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Without going into details, suffice to say that IP data is not the only technical information available to checkusers. In addition, the behavioural evidence would be fairly compelling just on its own. As for resolution, you can resolve it by logging in to your main account and filing an appropriate unblock request there. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:49, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Yunshui: done. Be sure to notify the blocker otherwise someone else will refuse. Also I would prefer to use the name going forward. Presbitow (talk) 23:02, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]