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License tagging for File:LeightonTelescopeMountCleaned.png

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Ways to improve Intermediate Luminosity Optical Transient

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Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

V630 Sagittarii

Hi. Thanks for the email. Novas are not my area of expertise, but as a "layman" I found the article interesting and understandable (sometimes I get lost on the more technical articles). Looking at it from the viewpoint of Wikipedia guidelines, manual of style etc, the article is fine. Well done. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 22:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should it have a Novae navbox? On that subject, it is worth checking that these novae are actually listed in the navboxes when you add them. Generally, navboxes don't have redlinks so a new article obviously won't be in there, although many of the constellation navboxes include redlinks in advance for clearly notable objects. Lithopsian (talk) 20:59, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating WY Sagittae.

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Good job!

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@Celestina007: Thanks very much for the kind comments, and for looking at my new article so quickly! I'm trying to make sure that every nova that was visible to the naked eye has a Wikipedia article. But it gets tricky for some of the really old ones.PopePompus (talk) 22:51, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Celestina007 (talk) 21:33, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Evangelina Mascardi

Thank you for reviewing the article. I updated the article with citations including a published magazine and journal reviewing her album releases which also reiterate many of the facts that were already in the article. It would be greatly appreciated if you could review it again. IsaacD (talk) 13:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Isaac, it does indeed look like you've improved the article. Since the tags I put on it have already been removed, there's nothing for me to do at this point. The article has been reviewed, and it's in the main Wikipedia space. As I said yesterday, she seemed notable to me even before the additions you made today. I probably should not have reviewed the page, because I don't have experience reviewing music-related articles. Anyway, I think all's well; thanks for adding this article! Let me know if you think I should be doing something else related to this article. PopePompus (talk) 00:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Declined A7s

Hello PopePompus -- Just a note that I've declined a couple of your A7 speedy requests. Zee Gaurav Puraskar is a television show, which is specifically exempt from A7; additionally it is a long-standing article, which generally should not be speedied unless there is an urgent problem (proposed deletion or AfD is more appropriate). Thiru Vikram is the CEO of a blue-linked company, which is adequate to meet A7. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 07:55, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at your last few deletion requests, I'd also note re Nathaniel Marshall Lucas Sr that it is incorrect to place a BLP prod on an article that has any sources at all, including external links and unreliable sources; further, the version of Khulta kali khulena that you tagged with A1 was sufficiently developed to discern the subject and also had a history with a longer version. I note that you only received new-page reviewer rights recently, I'd suggest that you slow down a bit, read all the voluminous documentation for the various deletion processes, and start out just with very obvious cases. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 08:11, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am indeed new to this, and I may well be screwing up. There are a lot of details especially about notability that I have not absorbed yet. I appreciate you folks catching my errors, and I especially appreciate you taking the time to cite the problems here. I'll try to be more careful.PopePompus (talk) 15:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Fred Truck (December 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Scrooge200 was:

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Scrooge200 (talk) 21:57, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, PopePompus! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Scrooge200 (talk) 21:57, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PopePompus (talk) 05:15, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you reviewed

PopePompus (talk) 07:51, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for January 18

An automated process has detected that when you recently edited List of novae in 2019, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Cygnus.

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Citations

Hello, I’m new here. Sorry if I couldn’t add any, I was trying to find out how to add citations with no success. Do you think you can help me? ExplorerKing (talk) 15:07, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Fred Truck

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Fred Truck has been accepted

Fred Truck, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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DGG ( talk ) 05:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please quit deleting census estimate fields

Please quit deleting census estimate fields from community articles! Instead, please remove the data from the right side of the "=".

|population_footnotes = (2020 ref)

|population_as_of = (2020 info)

|population_total = (2020 info)

|pop_est_footnotes = (blank this side)

|pop_est_as_of = (blank this side)

|population_est = (blank this side)

|population_density_sq_mi = (2020 info or "auto")

|population_density_sq_km2 = (2020 info or "auto")

Also, I noticed that you didn't cleanup the "pop_est_footnotes" field in some of your edits too...

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Alvord,_Iowa&type=revision&diff=1041139692&oldid=996379846&diffmode=source

• Sbmeirow • Talk • 23:29, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

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Population

Hi PopePompus, I see that you've been making lots of edits to the populaion of the cities of Iowa according to the 2020 census. I just want to tell you to KEEP IT UP! I like to deal with population density (and I'm a Nebraskan by the way) so if you could keep on putting accurate populations so I can put in the population density. You revised my population density at Panorama Park, Iowa and since then most of the Iowa Cities that Ive tried to edit have already been edited by you. Keep up the good work! From, Bhawbh

Your review of Frédéric Miclotte

Hi PopePompus. I've unreview a page you've curated, Frédéric Miclotte. I can think of very few instances where it's acceptable to mark a BLP with no sources as reviewed. You should either add sources if they are easily accessible, or—as I've done in this case—tag for deletion per WP:BLPPROD. Thanks – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 03:04, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lord Bolingbroke: Yes, you're exactly right. I almost tagged that page for a speedy del, but decided that the page's creator might add more content. I did intend to mark it as unreviewed after posting tags on it, but I forgot to do so. Thanks for catching my error.PopePompus (talk) 03:16, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, makes sense. Yeah, a speedy may have been reasonable, but a BLPPROD is probably the best option in this case so the creator has an opportunity to expand the article. They've mass created a bunch of these unsourced rally driver stubs, so we'll see if they actually get around to it. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 04:20, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

Hello PopePompus,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

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June 2022

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Angry black woman: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Hi! Thanks for keeping Wikipedia clean :) However, I saw that you didn't warn the users. I don't know if maybe I was too fast, but in case you didn't know (although I am quite sure you probably know) you can easily give warnings using Twinkle, which I have seen you are using. Have a nice day AdrianHObradors (talk) 02:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I may not be understanding the big picture, but I have not been issuing warnings or putting things on the userpages of vandals who don't create accounts, and merely show up as IP addresses. My reasoning is basically "Don't feed the trolls." These are obviously bad-faith edits, and I think it is preferable to have such edits just disappear as quickly as possible, rather than doing anything that might indicate to the troll that he is successfully bothering someone. But if you disagree, I'd be interested in hearing why. I'm a pretty unsophisticated Wikipedia editor, and I make a lot of mistakes.PopePompus (talk) 02:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Sure, of course. Template warnings are not only to tell problematic editors to stop what they are doing and what exactly they are doing wrong, but also helps other editors and semi-automatic tools know the "bad" activity of an account. And if many problematic edits follow, an IP can be reported and banned. But it is necessary that they are warned beforehand that they can get banned if they keep doing it. I see you're using Twinkle, if you click "[vandalism]", it should open the user's talk page for you, and you can quickly give them a warning from the menu. Other tools like WP:UV let you do it without even leaving the page. AdrianHObradors (talk) 17:52, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

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Thanks so much!!! It's very nice of you to have taken notice of them. PopePompus (talk) 02:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Citations with urls

Are you using some tool to generate citations that include urls? Particularly urls to NASA ADS pages? These seem to be showing up all over the place and are just asking to linkrot. Citations using the template almost always already have a link to the publisher page via doi and a link to the NASA ADS page via the bibcode, and often a link to a preprint via arXiv (and possibly others such as s2cid, ISSN, etc.). Any explicit url field is superfluous in 99% of cases. If desired, the title of free-to-read papers can be linked by adding a doi-access=free field (or bibcode-access, jstor-access, etc.). If a standard tool is generating these citations, I'll go and have a rant at the maintainer. Lithopsian (talk) 14:10, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll use the publisher's URL whenever it is available. I've just been using the Templates-> cite journal option, and filling in all the fields that I can. I didn't realize NASA ADS was considered ephemeral. PopePompus (talk) 02:42, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

NASA ADS isn't exactly ephemeral, but the exact url for papers could change and has changed in the past. We have a bibcode field that can always be tweaked to match without having to edit every star article. Similarly, the doi links to the publisher paper and the url of the publisher paper should very rarely need to be included since they can and do change quite regularly (over years, not every week). Just occasionally, there is no free-to-read version of a paper at either the arxiv, bibcode, doi, or other standard identifiers, but there is a (legal) free-to-read version elsewhere, that's the only case where url is needed in a cite journal template. You might like to add Citation bot to your toolbar or menu, or use it from its own page. It will fill in all the fields for almost any cite journal template, and a few other similar ones, from any unique identifier like a bibcode, doi, etc., and correct most obvious errors in existing templates. Very convenient, although it is sometimes down. Lithopsian (talk) 15:34, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled granted

Hi PopePompus, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! – Joe (talk) 13:36, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the vote of confidence! I'll try not to screw up. PopePompus (talk) 14:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

Hello PopePompus,

Backlog status

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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.^[b]

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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Notes

^ not including another ~6,000 redirects
^ The number of weekly reviews reported in the NPP feed includes redirects, which are not included in the backlog we primarily track.

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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Vandalism of Carbon Star page

Thank you for catching this and I apologize. My account was accessed without my permission and this action was performed. My account, however, is secure and this behavior will not occur from my account again. Again, my apologies. Beschutzer42 (talk) 03:36, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

Hello PopePompus,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination: MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello PopePompus,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

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Various light curves

What software do you use to plot light curves, like the ones you've added at various articles on the English and French Wikipedias? I presume you use Matplotlib, as the style of the graphs is very similar to typical SVG outputs from Matplotlib. I seek to add my own plot to HD 27563 (EM Eridani) based on the uvby data from Table XV of Mathys et al. (1986). –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 03:42, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I use the open source program gimp. I must confess my setup is a mess. The light curves are made by Python scripts which use a Python API for gimp (called gimpfu). However, the last time I checked, the gimp Python API did not survive the transition from Python 2 to Python 3. This may have been fixed by now, but there was a long period of time when the world's transition to Python 3 was nearly complete and gimp's API no longer worked. There were work-arounds discussed online, but I couldn't get any of them to work smoothly. So I have a VirtualBox VM running an old version of Ubuntu and an old version of gimp (version 2.8), and Python 2.7, which I use to make the light curves. It's a terrible kludge, but it works. I have several different Python scripts which will produce single panel plots with vastly different time total time ranges, and scripts which produce two, three or four panel plots, etc. The scripts are *very* ugly, but it doesn't matter much because what is being done - drawing a simple graph - doesn't involve subtle programming. The scripts are festooned which little kludgy bits of code that I turn on or off to do things like plot inset plots within the larger plot.

I've been trying to make sure that every variable star article has a light curve. I have not replaced any light curves that were made by other people, but I've added 1379 light curves to English Wikipedia articles that had no pre-existing light curve. There are about 100 stars for which I would like to make a light curve, but for which I have not found usable data. In any event, I believe the vast majority of English Wikipedia articles about variable stars now have light curves.

I would be very happy to make a plot for EM Eridani using the Mathys data you found (and I had missed). I would also be very happy to give you my Python scripts and VM if you want to use them to make the plot using my code - but be warned, the code's a mess. I would also be very happy to see you add a plot to the article that you made without my software, using Matplotlib or something else. I'm just glad to see that someone else wants the variable star articles to have light curves! Please let me know what you decide.

I didn't use Matplotlib, which of course is the obvious choice for Python, because I found it to be too "high level" to easily allow precise control of the plot at the individual pixel level. I'm sure someone who really knows Matplotlib well could plot anything he or she wants, but I found that gimp's much lower level API made it easier to exactly control what was plotted, down to the last pixel. PopePompus (talk) 05:48, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would not be able to use Python 2 (I think), so I'll be better off writing my own script using matplotlib. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 14:55, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A Light Curve to correct?

Hello PopePompus, hope you're doing well :)

While editing an article on the french Wikipedia, I noticed that there is a small problem on the light curve of R CrA. It looks like the data is from the ASAS project, but the y axis says "TESS visual magnitude" and the R Coronae Australis article also says it's TESS data. The data itself is from 2007-2008, so while editing I supposed it was really from ASAS. Thanks, Romuald 2 (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Romuald, Thanks for catching this. It does indeed look like ASAS data. However, when I plot the ASAS data, it doesn't match what is shown on that plot. So I've removed the plot from the R CrA article. I'll try to figure out what's wrong, and will produce a revised plot. Thanks again! PopePompus (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for investigating this, I've also removed the plot from the french article for now. Romuald 2 (talk) 18:26, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prabhakar Chaudhary

Hi, it is regarding recreation of Prabhakar Chaudhary which was deleted in December 2020, after AfD filed by you. The current deesn't seem any better. Have a look. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:57, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In-development light curve script

I created my own Python script for plotting light curves after a previous discussion, but I am not ready to share it, as I have not tested multi-band plotting. However, a visual-band light curve created using an in-development version has been added for MT Pegasi. This script uses Matplotlib and Numpy, and can create SVG as well as PNG files. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:49, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good job! The MT Pegasi plot looks very nice. Using Matplotlib is clearly a better idea than using an obsolete version of gimp, which is what I have been doing. PopePompus (talk) 13:23, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive

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New pages patrol newsletter

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Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!

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November Articles for creation backlog drive

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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

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Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

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WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

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Naming of the star: Rho Boötis

I apologise for changing the name of the star without permission. However, I wanted to change it because I and other students of our astronomy teacher bought this star on an official star website (Galaxieregister.de), which is a proud partner of the International Space Registry. I wanted to ask whether it might be possible to make a note somewhere in the Wikipedia article that the star is owned by an astronomy teacher and bears the name Kasseiopeyerl? 2003:D4:E74A:CE72:D044:A29C:6176:3041 (talk) 11:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These "purchase a star" companies are widely viewed as shameful scams. The names they confer upon astronomical objects have no official status at all. You yourself could sell stars or large portions of the moon just as legitimately as any company could. I appreciate the fact that students made this gesture for their teacher, but it saddens me to see people waste their money in this way. I don't think these names should appear in Wikipedia articles for a couple of reasons: 1) It might encourage other people to support scam outfits like the International Space Registry. 2) If such a name is added to the Rho Boötis article, then what reason is there not to add the names of every person or group that has "bought a star"? The International Star Registry, and similar outfits, must have "sold" thousands of stars by now - if your student purchase goes into Wikipedia, why shouldn't all of them? Wikipedia astronomy articles might become little more than lists of people who have patronized these companies. What if the International Star Registry decides to sell the Sun? Does that belong in Wikipedia too?

I am sorry if my removal of the name you have conferred upon Rho Boötis seems harsh, or seems to downplay the effort you have made to thank this teacher. But many, many people work to make Wikipedia a reliable source of information, and part of doing that is removing things persons have put into articles for their own private reasons.

If you still feel I'm being unfair, I would encourage you to start a discussion about this on the Rho Boötis talk page. PopePompus (talk) 11:40, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Drone photos

Could you please ease up on the drone photos. The stub articles you are adding these photos to haven't the space, and drone photos are awkward, as no one looks at a place from above (that's what Google satellite is for). Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:40, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll ease up on them. I'm currently trying to make sure that every article on a town in Iowa has at least one photograph. I figure that even if the article is a stub, having an image is an improvement. In some of these towns there's darn little worth photographing, sad to say. But I'll look harder in the future. PopePompus (talk) 23:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Light curves

Hello PopePompus,

I would like to thank you for adding light curves to some of the variable star articles I have created, making them more complete. I'm curious as to how you make them, specifically where you obtain the data and what tools you use to create them. Thanks again, AluminiumWithAnI (talk) 04:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind message. One of my WikiQuests is to make sure that every article about a variable star has a light curve. The actual plotting is done by Python scripts that I have written which use the Python API in the open source "gimp" program. So gimp is actually producing the plot. I get the data from a lot of different sources. I usually look at all the journal articles listed in SIMBAD, to see if one of them has a obviously good light curve. Often they authors will have made the raw data available (usually on the CDS site), and I'll plot the raw data if it's available. Sometimes, especially in older articles, the raw data will appear in a text table in the article, and in that case I will use OCR software to extract the data to plot.

If there's no good looking plot in any of the articles that I look at, I'll look at data from TESS, Kepler, Hipparcos, ASAS, ASAS-SN, etc - all those data sets are available online at the project's website. The AAVSO is a good source for reasonably bright long term variables and novae, but for the AAVSO data to be usable the variability must have an amplitude of at least 1/2 magnitude. I prefer to plot visual band data if possible, or at least some other photometric band that a human can perceive, but occationally only infrared or X-ray data is available.

Your recent HD 166473 article presented no obviously good choices for the light curve. Normally TESS would be a good source for a low amplitude variable like that, but the MAST site actually doesn't show usable TESS data that star, and the star's variability is on a timescale that is a bit short for regular TESS data. You cited the Kurtz & Martinez paper in your article, and it has a light curve, so that's what I used. Unsurprisingly for a paper from the 1980s, the authors did not put the raw data online, and there is no text table in the paper with the data. So I used "Web Plot Digitizer" to digitize the data shown in their plots, and replotted it. They had made what seems to me to be a poor choice for the plotting range in their figure - their vertical axis ranged from 20 to -20 mmag even though none of the points plotted fall outside of the range 7 to -7, so most of their figure is blank. There are recent papers listed in SIMBAD that are based on high cadence TESS data which does not appear to be available on line. I will write to the first author of those papers, and see if one of them is willing to send me the data. If so, I may redo the HD 16647 light curve plot with that data. PopePompus (talk) 12:15, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your detailed response. It's really eye-opening since I had no idea GIMP could be used to render graphs like that, or how to extract digitized data from graphs without available raw data (I honestly thought you just had to eyeball it), and I'm in awe at your skill. Again, I appreciate your diligence to improve all those articles, as well as kindly providing insight into your work. I now feel more inspired than ever to take up programming as a hobby (perhaps in university), knowing all the things one can do using a bit of code. AluminiumWithAnI (talk) 04:02, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In some cases, like in the case of the upper panel of the HD 9289 light curves, the data points can be extracted directly from the pdf version of the journal article, and no re-digitization of any kind is required. The coordinates of every single point in figure 1 of that Gruberbauer et al. paper are available as (x, y) pairs, but you have to uncompress the pdf file to be able to get them. PopePompus (talk) 03:05, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In which case, is there a format that I need to follow in making the graphs? I've noticed that the vast majority of the light curves all appear to use similar templates/designs (though this may be because they are created by the same person/people). AluminiumWithAnI (talk) 12:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking here. All I was pointing out in my last remark is that the pdf files for some journal articles actually have the coordinates for each individual point in a plot within the file, rather than the plot being an image. The pdf display software actually draws the graph point-by-point, and you can extract those points from the pdf file yourself if you want to render the plot differently. This is only true for some pdf files, and it is never true for pdfs of old articles which were scanned. If you look at figure 1 of that Gruberbauer et al. paper, there are thousands of points in the three panels of the plot. And you can pull those coordinates out of the pdf file and replot them in a different way, which is what I did for the upper panel of the plot I made for your HD 9289 article. So no tool like Web Plot Digitizer is needed in that case.

You certainly don't need to follow any format, or do anything else differently than you are now, as far as I'm concerned. You are creating clean articles which have enough references to establish notability, which is the most important thing. Keep up the good work! PopePompus (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I might try making some light curves sometime when I come across papers that provide the plotted data values. AluminiumWithAnI (talk) 22:28, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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