User talk:Pincus

Bryson Voirin

Hi, if you think an article was deleted out of process, go post it on Wikipedia:Deletion review. Recreating it without discussion will just lead to the article getting deleted again. - Bobet 11:55, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need. Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy and the point of Wikipedia is that anyone can edit it to correct obvious mistakes. The decision to delete the Bryson Voirin article was an obvious mistake that I corected. The keep votes equalled the delete votes, demonstrating no consensus for deletion. In fact, a simple majority for delete, which the Bryson Voirin vote fell short of, is not even sufficient for demonstrating a consensus for deletion. If you take a look at all the other pages on deletion, you will see that 3 to 1 in favor of deletion is usually required; 2 to one in favor of deletion is borderline. Please respect the outcome of the process and do not undo my fixes. Pincus 20:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The closing admin commented on his reasons at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Bryson Voirin, if you disagree, post it on deletion review. Changing closed afds can be considered vandalism so you shouldn't be doing that, no matter how you feel about the decision. - Bobet 20:43, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You are confused about the process. Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy or system of law. [1] Closing the vote on delete was an obvious mistake, if we are to follow the spirt of Wikipedia and "assume good faith." [2] The whole spirit of WIkipedia is that it is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit and "be bold" in correcting the obvious mistakes of even experts and administrators. [3] The vote was 5 to 5, obviously not a consensus. Pincus 21:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is not an obvious mistake if the closing admin provides a reasoning on why he did it, and clearly states that he saw all the votes you saw. You're questioning his judgement in closing the discussion, which merits placing it in deletion review. - Bobet 21:46, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Of course Wikipedia is not a democracy. But if the people that say "delete" are admins and well-respected users, It merits deletion. Please stop adding this person and Randy Gonzalez to the Sarasota article. --CFIF 22:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]