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Wikidata weekly summary #345
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- Discussions
- New request for comments: Do we want automatic inverse property creation and if so, how should they happen?
- Press/Blogs
- Introduction to Wikidata as a platform and data source
- Europeana Innovation Agenda
- The Hand-editor’s Tale
- mySociety 2018 report including their work on Wikidata
- Using WikiData API to get the sense of words
- The Evolution of Power and Standard Wikidata Editors: Comparing Editing Behavior over Time to Predict Lifespan and Volume of Edits
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- In Pywikibot, you can now add a new statement with qualifiers and/or references in a single edit (phab:T112577, phab:T170432)
- A couple of gran proposals under review need your input and endorsement
- There are now over 2 million Wikidata infoboxes on Commons!
- Happy New Year! (L40653)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: none
- External identifiers: bgm.tv character identifier, ACB.com coach ID, bgm.tv person identifier, PC-9801DB ID, Hymnary author ID, The Armory Show at 100 ID, Dictionnaire de spiritualité ID, Swedish Anbytarforum, researchportal.helsinki.fi profile ID, Wikimedia OTRS ticket number, AllMusic performance ID, Wikibase Registry ID, Scoresway tennis person ID, Historical RNA ID, Muséosphère work ID, pressball.by player ID, premierliga.ru staff ID, premierliga.ru referee ID, WorldFootball.net referee ID, TheFinalBall referee ID, TheFinalBall coach ID, RusTeam player ID, CFU player ID, AIC player ID, AMFR player ID, teams.by player ID, vehicle identification number, Centre Pompidou ID, INE ID (Portugal)
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: agglomerative, urban population, rural population, Linear reference, located in urban area
- External identifiers: SHARE-VDE author ID, Panorama de l'art ID, PCGamingWiki ID, MDWS place ID, JKT48 member ID, Uppsala General Catalogue ID
- Query examples:
- Graph of student-master relationship of Christian Thielemann #Neujahrskonzert (source)
- Cricket teams in the world by number of players and their gender (source)
- Buildings designed by Brazilian architect Oscar Niemeyer (source)
- Species have been named after Donald Trump (source)
- Catchphrases (source)
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Not much happened this week because we took some time off over the holidays. Getting back to full speed again in the next days.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Here is a much more complete obituary for wife, Diana, of Harry Mark Petrakis
Wed. 01/02
Dear Andy,
Lambrini Papangelis here, that wanted to note on the "Harry Mark Petrakis" Wikipedia page that HMP's wife, Diana, has died. PLEASE DISREGARD that first obituary I sent you; it was not even an obituary. Here, rather, is a "feature article obituary" about Diana Petrakis that appeared in the Jan. 1, 2019 Chicago Sun-Times.
Diana Petrakis
https://chicago.suntimes.com/?post_type=cst_article...
After you make the edit to the "Infobox" to note Mrs. Petrakis's passing, if you want to add this Sun-Times obituary to "External Links" at the bottom of the HMP article, that will be fine with me.
Thank you.
Lambrini Papangelis Lambrini Papangelis (talk) 13:17, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
1820s shipwreck lists
Please take a look at all ten lists covering 1820-29. Do you think that they would benefit from splitting? No need to tag them, just let me know either by a ping her or a message at my talk. Mjroots (talk) 16:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
@Mjroots: Sizes in bytes:
- 1820 = 355,439
- 1821 = 427,728
- 1822 = 419,264
- 1823 = 462,801
- 1824 = 390,522
- 1825 = 504,378
- 1826 = 320,573
- 1827 = 219,577
- 1828 = 214,704
- 1829 = 268,619
Even the smallest of these needs to be split into four or six, if not twelve, pieces. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:31, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I'll finish ploughing through The Times for 1851 (currently up to 7 Nov) and then split them, probably over the weekend. Will split all into months like the 1830s and 1840s lists. Mjroots (talk) 16:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
List of recipients of the George Medal, 1940s
Hi, you neglected to include a couple of London Gazette issue numbers in List of recipients of the George Medal, 1940s (refs. 147 & 148). Can you look them up? Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 01:24, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- The person who added the citations neglected to do so; I merely reformatted them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:32, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. I hadn't noticed your dummy edit after your initial edit that created the page. Your split did make the errors more obvious, though. – wbm1058 (talk) 16:44, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I looked up both of them and fixed the template parameters. Both were added by drive-by editors, likely family members. – wbm1058 (talk) 18:53, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #346
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- Discussions
- Closed request for comments: Referencing websites: how do we store the website title?
- Events
- Past: 35th Chaos Communication Congress in Leipzig, December 27-30. Several talks about Wikidata can be watched in replay:
- Introduction to Wikidata and the Query Service by Lucas Werkmeister and Amir Sarabadani
- AI in Wikipedia by Amir Sarabadani
- How to become a Mediawiki hacker by Andre Klapper
- Live-coding: building a Wikidata tool by Lucas Werkmeister
- Upcoming: Wikidata IRC office hour, at 18:00 (UTC+1, Berlin time) on the channel #wikimedia-office
- Upcoming: Wikidata meetup in WikiBär, Berlin, January 15th (in German)
- Upcoming: Academic workshop on data quality management in Wikidata, Berlin, January 18th (registration needed)
- Past: 35th Chaos Communication Congress in Leipzig, December 27-30. Several talks about Wikidata can be watched in replay:
- Press, articles, blog posts
- Citation.js: a format-independent, modular bibliography tool for the browser and command line, by Lars G. Willighagen (preprint)
- Toward an abstract Wikipedia, by Denny Vrandečić
- Wikidata and the sum of all video games, by Jean-Fred
- Building a Wikidata Tool – Behind the Scenes by Lucas Werkmeister (follow-up from the "Building a Wikidata tool" live-coding session, see above)
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- >1000 sitelinks to the new Shan Wikipedia (shnwiki) have been added since November
- Swiss foundation MY-D has published a call for projects for Wikidata showcase applications
- Reminder: you can give your input on issues when requesting a new language for Wikidata
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: title of broader work, colorist, data interval
- External identifiers: Critique d'art ID, DVR Number, Goodreads character ID, Politika topic, SHARE-VDE author ID, England Football Online manager profile, England Football Online player profile, Panorama de l'art ID, Agence photo RMN package ID, MDWS place ID, JKT48 member ID, PCGamingWiki ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: IFPNI species ID, corporate purpose, Lace bugs database ID, Катэгорыя членаў, The White-files species ID, at distance, representative image, Wikia Article URL 2
- External identifiers: Dictionnaire des Wallons ID, Hymnary text ID, Doctrine ID, Genius artist numeric ID, Archives of Maryland Biographical Series ID, OSGS-Number, OLAC video game genre vocabulary, De Agostini ID, Baltisches Biographisches Lexikon Digital ID (new scheme), MNAM ID, IHOI ID, Conférence du stage secretary ID, Genius album numeric ID, Musée Picasso ID, Genius song numeric ID, Crew united Titel, Crew united Name
- Query examples:
- Articles about obituaries (source)
- Map of Slovenian cultural monuments coloured by type (source)
- French settlements with more than one word in the name (source)
- People after which a state is named (source)
- "official name" statements including a slash punctuation mark (source)
- Streets in the Netherlands named after a woman described in Els Kloek's book (source)
- Map of parts of the wall of Philip II Augustus in Paris (source)
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Working on getting final pieces in place to regularly run constraint check jobs so all constraint violations get fed into the query service (phabricator:T204031)
- Fixed alignment issues with Glosses on Lexeme pages (phabricator:T207401)
- Working on getting the layout right for the termbox in the mobile view so that in the future you can also see labels, descriptions and aliases in different languages on mobile (phabricator:T207150)
- Getting ready to start working on basic Shape Expression support
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Template:Taxobox authority
Is there any reason why {{Taxobox authority}} could not support botanical authors, where the date isn't present? Maybe it wouldn't be useful. {{Taxobox authority/sandbox}} makes the date optional, allowing (when live):
{{Taxobox authority|author=Smith|date=1899}}
{{Taxobox authority|Smith|1899}}
{{Taxobox authority|author=Smith}}
{{Taxobox authority|Smith}}
Peter coxhead (talk) 17:17, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.
Recent changes
- RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [1]
MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [2]
codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [3]
On several wikis, an account named "Edit filter" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.
Problems
In AbuseFilter, the "Throttle" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [4]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).
Meetings
- Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.
Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe.
18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
What utter horse poop is this?
I just wanted to express empathy/solidarity with you for having acted in good faith and received horse poop in return. The levelheadedness of your reply made me chuckle. Levelheadedness is one word! That's one to remember for scrabble, if anyone still plays that! Edaham (talk) 03:32, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: December 2018
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TfD notice
A module you've been ivolved with is up for deletion at TfD: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_January_9#Module:Common_abbreviations_(meta)/data. – Uanfala (talk) 21:54, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #347
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- Events
- Past: IRC office hour, January 8th
- Upcoming: Wikidata meetup in WikiBär, Berlin, January 15th (in German)
- Upcoming: Academic workshop on data quality management in Wikidata, Berlin, January 18th (registration needed)
- Upcoming: Wikidata hackathon in Ulm, Germany, on February 22-24. The organization team is looking for people who can give introduction to Wikidata, QuickStatements or gadgets (in German).
- Press, articles, blog posts
- Connecting PCGamingWiki and Wikidata by Connor Shea
- VOSviewer supports large number of new data sources (including Wikidata)
- Interview of Denny Vrandečić on the podcast Between the Brackets, about Wikidata and plenty of other things
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Structured data for Commons: multilingual captions are deployed on Commons on January 10th (documentation)
- The Wikidata Query Service has been encountering some data corruption issues that impact the results you can see when running a query. Some may still be running. You can check the current ticket for more updates.
- New dashboard for percentage of pages on a Wikimedia project make use of data from Wikidata (doesn't include sitelinks, doesn't include Commons file and category pages for now)
- Science Stories, a project highlighting women in sciences, uses Wikidata
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: urban population, rural population, corporate purpose, closest approach
- External identifiers: Uppsala General Catalogue ID, IFPNI species ID, Dictionnaire des Wallons ID, The White-files species ID, Hymnary text ID, Lace bugs database ID, Doctrine ID, Genius artist numeric ID, OLAC video game genre vocabulary, OSGS-Number, MNAM artwork ID, IHOI work ID, Conférence du stage secretary ID, Musée Picasso artwork ID
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: official color, euler characteristic, REDIZO, number of articles, property for implied values, BNP Catalog ID, Psyl'list species ID, charter URL, works in collection, precedes word-initial, WordLift ID
- External identifiers: Litchfield Ledger ID, NicoNicoPedia, Bahamut Gamer's Community ACG Database, Bunkacho Media Art Database (Development Version): Animation Database, Bunkacho Media Art Database (Development Version): Comic Database, Interpol WOA ID, MAMVP ID, VectorBase Taxonomy ID, Köztaurusz azonosító, TV Spielfilm, Norwegian silvertax 1816 contributor ID, Krugosvet article, infosport.ru person ID, Viperson ID, iTunes TV season ID, sportufo.ru person ID, RBU person ID, biathlon.com.ua person ID, skiresort.info ID, AiF dossier, JORFSearch organization ID, ELNET ID, U-DISE code, AISHE code, EIIN number
- Query examples:
- Schools of magic by numbers of students (source)
- Members of the Association for Computing Machinery who also gave TED talks (source)
- Languages where some lexemes have more than one grammatical gender entered in Wikidata (source)
- Timeline of early French aviation pioneers (source)
- Map of schools where virtual twins were educated (source)
- Most cited Magnuses in Wikidata (source)
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Solving an issue that blocked deployments over the past weeks (phab:T212427)
- Improved the visual appearance of glosses (phab:T207401)
- Fixing problems with reverting Sense addition (phab:T211438)
- Improving our Javascript to be more standard (phab:T210744)
- Working on performing more constraint type checks in PHP before falling back to SPARQL (phab:T209504)
- Making the query service logo and favicon configurable in one's own Wikibase (phab:T212210)
- More work on displaying the termbox on mobile (phab:T207150)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [5][6]
- You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
- Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [7][8]
Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new
wrapper
parameter now. You can use it for selectors like.mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>
. [9]
Problems
- When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [10]
Changes later this week
- You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
- Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [11]
The AbuseFilter variable
minor_edit
has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15
17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
Note on Rahaf
Hi, not sure what “warning” on the reference you are referring to. Can you please clarify? Please ping me on your response. Thank you Bohbye (talk) 17:51, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Bohbye: Look at reference 6 in this version of the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:46, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Got it. I was confused what the warning on your comment was about. Thanks for the explanation. Bohbye (talk) 23:08, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Deborah Bone for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Deborah Bone is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deborah Bone until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Chrisahn (talk) 04:53, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Goya
Thanks for this[12]. There was a lot of angst on the talk, but case closed now, afaic. Ceoil (talk) 09:04, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Latitude and longitude of cities
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A tag has been placed on Latitude and longitude of cities requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an orphaned disambiguation page which either
- disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic); or
- disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title.
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time. Please see the disambiguation page guidelines for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Ajf773 (talk) 06:03, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #348
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- Events
- Past: Workshop on Data Quality Management in Wikidata, 18 January, Berlin. You can check the collaborative documentation
- Upcoming: free software workshop (including Wikidata) in Lyon, France, January 23rd
- Upcoming: Wikidata workshop in Côte d'Ivoire, February 9th
- Upcoming: Library data camp, a training for librairies about open data and Wikidata, Manchester, UK, March 11th
- Did you know?
- Newest properties:
- General datatypes: WordLift ID, official color, member category, located at street address, charter URL, works in collection
- External identifiers: Crew united title ID, Genius album numeric ID, Genius song numeric ID, Litchfield Ledger ID, Microsoft Academic ID, Bahamut Gamer's Community ACG Database, Bunkacho Media Art Database (Development Version): Animation Database, Bunkacho Media Art Database (Development Version): Comic Database, REDIZO, Archives of Maryland Biographical Series ID, Interpol WOA artwork ID, Online Catalog of Biblioteca Nacional de Portugal ID, MAMVP artwork ID, Psyl'list species ID, VectorBase taxonomy ID, iTunes TV season ID, Hungarian public thesaurus ID, TV Spielfilm film ID, Viperson ID, Krugosvet article, biathlon.com.ua person ID, RBU person ID, sportufo.ru person ID, Skiresort.info ID, Educational Institution Identification Number, U-DISE code, AISHE code
- New property proposals to review:
- General datatypes: inverse label, tussenvoegsel, Linked to profession, chassis, Swedish Organization Number, COOL species ID, Trading name, funk channel ID, personal pronoun
- External identifiers: Skimap.org ID, Gault et Millau ID, ID theatreonline.com, Swiss Films, Dizionario di Storia Treccani ID, Romanian Soccer player ID, sports.md athlete ID, iTunes movie ID, iTunes book ID, vodnimlyny.cz ID, Smarthistory ID, World Cube Association ID, CORE (Connecting Repositories) ID, GEOFON earthquake ID, LevskiSofia.info player ID, LevskiSofia.info coach ID, Homosaurus identifier, DIZIE ID, identificador Gran Enciclopèdia de la Música
- Query examples:
- Newest WikiProjects: WikiProject Data Quality
- Newest properties:
- Development
- Fixed a small bug that we introduced with editing badges on wd.org (phab:T213998)
- Finished collecting data about the user of the termbox (phab:T211015)
- Fixed an i18n message (phab:T206416)
- Created some maintenance scripts for creating and approving oauth consumers (phab:T211568)
- Checked for possible data coruptions due to an issue with change tags (phab:T213281)
- Fixed an issue with restoring merge revisions in Lexeme (phab:T204041)
- Configured WikibaseQualityConstraints on test.wikidata (phab:T209922)
- Turned on the new entity id formatting for properties (phab:T201838)
- Continued work on glosses, displaying the language name also in edit mode (phab:T209931)
- Starting investigating on Shape Expressions
- Mobile termbox: showing language, description and aliases (phab:T207150)
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.
- Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!
Request for assistance RE notability - Ebbe Nielsen Prize page
Hi Andy, yesterday I raised the pre-existing page Ebbe Nielsen Prize from a redirect to an article in its own right with info on the prize/history/recipients (including myself as the last one, potential COI declared on the "Talk" page), however someone has added a tag to the effect that the subject's notability may be in question. I have removed myself from deciding such an issue, but would you be interested in taking a look and seeing what you or other "wikipedian of note" might think, with a view to removing the tag if you believe this is warranted? Any attention/review would be appreciated. Best - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 04:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the attention, I think your decision is the correct one! Regards - Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 18:01, 21 January 2019 (UTC)